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    Unfortunately, some other oppressed population on the other side of the world has to wait a bit on their turn to be helped from their dictators.

    Probably it is taken sequentially in the alphabetic order, therefore some will have to wait, we are at the letter V only:

    -the Algerians daily protesting against their old man at helm (in his wheelchair) for some 30 years,
    -similarly the Albanians (or did I mixed them with Alabamanians? ),
    -the Afghaniens has been already taken very care of...

    (So, the poor FrenchYellow Vests will have to wait a bit.)

    (hopefully, no problem in Zimbabwe and Zanzibar)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    ICS attack that has American fingerprints: Stuxnet.
    Thanks for confirming the US does have a history of launching cyber attacks on countries that don't bow down to their international protection racket.

    I knew you would get there in the end, you just needed a little prodding and manipulation...

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    State-owned electricity operator Corpoelec blamed the outage on act of "sabotage" at the Guri Dam, one of the world's largest hydroelectric stations and the cornerstone of Venezuela's electrical grid. Rodriguez described it as a "cyber" attack intended to derail the whole system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Thanks for confirming the US does have a history of launching cyber attacks on countries
    So a history of *one* then.

    You fucking idiot.


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    The US has launched cyber attacks on 100s of countries via Prism/NSA ..as you well know.

    Just ask the NSA ex-employee Ed Snowden who blew the whistle and now exiled to Russia.

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    Has the U.S. Naval bombardment begun yet to soften up the targets for the imminent invasion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    NSA ex-employee Ed Snowden
    Along with the ameristani guy who was stabbed to death in the "street robbery", whose wallet and expensive watch were left behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Has the U.S. Naval bombardment
    The use of visible military equipment, as you know, leads to them becoming targeted and possibly attacked. Much better to use all the "hidden hands"initially, establish doubt and claim innocence. History and investigation will reveal all, eventually.

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    Do you hear helicopters?

    I think the US should send some "virtual" humanitarian relief. You know ... some imaginary food, some hypothetical baby formula, a couple boatloads of pretend power generators, and a few planeloads full of best wishes.

    That'll do it.
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    (A bit different explanation of the problem)

    Presstitutes Turn Blind Eye to UN Report on Venezuela

    Washington and the Convict Appointed to Overthrow Venezuela Continue the Lies
    Paul Craig Roberts.

    Don’t you think something is fishy when the presstitutes orchestrate a fake news “humanitarian crisis” in Venezuela, but totally ignore the real humanitarian crises in Yemen and Gaza?

    Don’t you think something is really very rotten when the expert, Alfred Maurice de Zayas, sent by the UN to Venezuela to evaluate the situation finds no interest by any Western media or any Western government in his report?

    Don’t you think it is a bit much for Washington to steal $21 billion of Venezuela’s money, impose sanctions in an effort to destabilize the country and to drive the Venezuelan government to its knees, blame Venezuelan socialism (essentially nationalization of the oil company) for bringing “starvation to the people,” and offer a measly $21 million in “humanitarian aid.”

    As the United States is completely devoid of any print or TV media, it falls upon internet media such as this website to perform the missing function of honest journalism.

    As for the alleged starvation and humanitarian crisis in Venezuela, Zayas has this to say:

    The December 2017 and March 2018 reports of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the UN (FAO) list food crises in 37 countries. “The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela is not among them.”

    “In 2017, the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela requested medical aid from the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, the plea was rejected, because Venezuela ‘is still a high-income country … and as such is not eligible’.”

    The “crisis” in Venezuela “cannot be compared with the humanitarian crises in Gaza, Yemen, Libya, the Syrian Arab Republic, Iraq, Haiti, Mali, the Central African Republic, South Sudan, Somalia, or Myanmar, among others.”

    ---

    “Despite being the first UN official to visit and report from Venezuela in 21 years, Mr de Zayas said his research into the causes of the country’s economic crisis has so far largely been ignored by the UN and the media, and caused little debate within the Human Rights Council.

    “He believes his report has been ignored because it goes against the popular narrative that Venezuela needs regime change.” https://off-guardian.org/2019/02/09/...out-venezuela/

    Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world and an abundance of other natural resources including gold, bauxite and coltan. But under the Maduro government they’re not accessible to US and transnational corporations.

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/201...a/Presstitutes Turn Blind Eye to UN Report on Venezuela

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    Chavismo attempts to stop protests....

    American coup in Venezuela-skynews-caracas-venezuela_4603112-jpg

    Chavismo fails.

    American coup in Venezuela-skynews-venezuela-elections_4603109-jpg

    Chavismo needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

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    Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido on Saturday called on citizens nationwide to travel to the capital Caracas for a protest against socialist President Nicolas Maduro, as the country’s worst blackout in decades dragged on for a third day.


    Addressing supporters in southwestern Caracas, Guaido - the leader of the opposition-run congress who invoked the constitution to assume an interim presidency in January - said Maduro’s government “has no way to solve the electricity crisis that they themselves created.”


    “All of Venezuela, to Caracas!” Guaido yelled while standing atop a bridge, without saying when the planned protest would be held. “The days ahead will be difficult, thanks to the regime.”


    Activists had scuffled with police and troops ahead of the rally, meant to pressure Maduro amid the blackout, which the governing Socialist Party called an act of U.S.-sponsored sabotage but opposition critics derided as the result of two decades of mismanagement and corruption.


    Dozens of demonstrators attempted to walk along an avenue in Caracas but were moved onto the sidewalk by police in riot gear, leading them to shout at the officers and push on their riot shields. One woman was sprayed with pepper spray, according to a local broadcaster.


    The power flickered on and off in parts of Caracas on Saturday morning, including the presidential palace of Miraflores, according to Reuters witnesses. Six of the country’s 23 states still lacked power as of Saturday afternoon, Socialist Party Vice President Diosdado Cabello said on state television.


    “We’re all upset that we’ve got no power, no phone service, no water and they want to block us,” said Rossmary Nascimiento, 45, a nutritionist at the Caracas rally. “I want a normal country.”


    At a competing march organized by the Socialist Party to protest what it calls U.S. imperialism, Maduro blamed the outages on “electromagnetic and cyber attacks directed from abroad by the empire.”


    “The right wing, together with the empire, has stabbed the electricity system, and we are trying to cure it soon,” he said.


    Several hundred people gathered at the rally in central Caracas for a march to denounce the crippling U.S. oil sanctions aimed at cutting off the Maduro government’s funding sources.


    “We’re here, we’re mobilized, because we’re not going to let the gringos take over,” said Elbadina Gomez, 76, who works for an activist group linked to the Socialist Party.


    CLINICS IDLE


    Julio Castro, a doctor and member of a nongovernmental organization called Doctors For Health, tweeted that a total of 17 people had died during the blackout, including nine deaths in emergency rooms.


    Reuters was unable to independently confirm the deaths or whether they could have resulted from the blackout. The Information Ministry did not respond to a request for comment.


    Clinics in the sweltering western state of Zulia, which suffers chronic regional blackouts, had scaled back operations after nearly 72 hours without power.


    “We’re not offering services and we don’t have any patients staying here because the generator is not working,” said Chiquinquira Caldera, head of administration at the San Lucas clinic in the city of Maracaibo, as she played a game of Chinese checkers with doctors who were waiting for power to return.


    Venezuela, already suffering from hyperinflation and shortages of basic goods, has been mired in a major political crisis since Guaido assumed the interim presidency in January, calling Maduro a usurper following the 2018 election, which Maduro won but was widely considered fraudulent.


    Maduro says Guaido is a puppet of Washington and dismisses his claim to the presidency as an effort by the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump to control Venezuela’s oil wealth.


    Former mayor and exiled opposition activist Antonio Ledezma on Saturday called on Guaido to seek United Nations intervention in Venezuela by invoking a principle known as “responsibility to protect.”


    The U.N. doctrine sometimes referred to as R2P was created to prevent mass killings such as those of Rwanda and Bosnia and places the onus on the international community to protect populations from crimes against humanity and ethnic cleansing.


    “President @jguaido, (you should) formally request Humanitarian Intervention, applying the concept of R2P, to stop extermination, genocide and destruction of what’s left of our country,” Ledezma wrote via Twitter.


    At the opposition rally, Guaido said he would not invoke an article of the Venezuelan constitution allowing the congress to authorize foreign military operations within Venezuela “until we have to.”


    “Article 187 when the time comes,” Guaido said. “We need to be in the streets, mobilized. It depends on us, not on anybody else.”


    Trump has said that a “military option” is on the table with regard to Venezuela, but Latin American neighbors have emphatically opposed a U.S. intervention as a way of addressing the situation.


    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...e-of-blackout/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    You know ... some imaginary food, some hypothetical baby formula, a couple boatloads of pretend power generators, and a few planeloads full of best wishes.

    That'll do it.
    It; as we see in so many "announcements", from ameristani "leaders", of all descriptions. Nothing will ever get delivered.

    The sea-born route is closed, the overland route closed. Possibly teleporting is now available to ameristan from their "Space Force", ah but they don't have rockets able to lift and deploy anything other than nuclear bombs.

    Such planning and execution will be a standard week long subject in military schools of the future. How to promise the world and deliver zero.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Chavismo attempts to stop protests....
    Sky News the voice of truth, eh

    I'll take your word that the long shot of the "protesters" were not long shots of the "supporters". The film is yesterdays not last years .... Sky News has previous on such "errors"

    I do notice that where the ageing SN reporter is visible, all the shots are low level and no long shots, to assist us to judge his assertions or was he hiding the truth?

    A lack of anything, the water cannon, snatch squads, coach loads participants being held on highways outside the cities, of tear gas, live rounds ....... actually being used. As per France and the UK whenever they have "crowds" to manage.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Don’t you think something is really very rotten when the expert, Alfred Maurice de Zayas, sent by the UN to Venezuela to evaluate the situation finds no interest by any Western media or any Western government in his report?
    We've been informed by the thread "expert" that de Zayas is a "twat."


    Speaking of which...

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Chavismo fails.
    Not seeing much starvation going on in that pic harry...


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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    We've been informed by the thread "expert" that de Zayas is a "twat."
    With supporting evidence which you've chosen not to post.


    Speaking of which...

    Not seeing much starvation going on in that pic harry...

    You didn't see them before.....


    Added: From a year ago; I'm guessing the 3 million that have fled the country were in the 60%.


    The annual survey, published on Wednesday by three universities, is one of the most closely-followed assessments of Venezuelans’ well being amid a government information vacuum and shows a steady rise in poverty and hunger in recent years.

    Over 60 percent of Venezuelans surveyed said that during the previous three months they had woken up hungry because they did not have enough money to buy food. About a quarter of the population was eating two or less meals a day, the study showed.



    Last year, the three universities found that Venezuelans said they had lost an average of 8 kilograms during 2016. This time, the study’s dozen investigators surveyed 6,168 Venezuelans between the ages of 20 and 65 across the country of 30 million people.


    After winning the presidency in 1999, leftist President Hugo Chavez was proud of improving Venezuela’s social indicators due to oil-fueled welfare policies. But his successor President Nicolas Maduro’s rule since 2013 has coincided with a deep recession, due to failed state-led economic policies and the plunge in global oil prices.


    Wednesday’s study flagged Venezuelans’ deteriorating diets, which are deficient in vitamins and protein, as currency controls restrict food imports, hyperinflation eats into salaries, and people line up for hours to buy basics like flour.


    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...-idUSKCN1G52HA
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You didn't see them before.....
    'arry saw them before...


    Or did he see it on another side of the world?

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    Venezuela - Three Total Blackouts In Three Days - Government Presumes U.S. Cyberattack


    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/03/venezuela-three-total-blackouts-in-three-days-government-presumes-us-cyberattack.html#comments

    Some of the post:

    "It is quite possible or even likely that the U.S. is causing these incidents. But it is not certain."


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northe...ackout_of_2003


    "When the northeast blackout happened no one blamed President Bush or socialism for the outage."


    https://www.dw.com/en/venezuela-us-indicts-top-regime-official-tareck-el-aissami/a-47832662


    "When the first outage happened U.S. Senator Marco Rubio eagerly mocked the government of Venezuela. He also mentioned that some backup generators failed:
    Marco Rubio @marcorubio - 22:18 utc - 7 Mar 2019
    ALERT: Reports of a complete power outage all across #Venezuela at this moment.
    18 of 23 states & the capital district are currently facing complete blackouts.
    Main airport also without power & backup generators have failed.
    #MaduroRegime is a complete disaster.
    After the first outage the government of Venezuela said that it was caused by a cyberattack on the automated control system but gave no further details:
    Communications Minister Jorge Rodriguez said Maduro's government planned to bring "proof" of US involvement in the blackout to a UN Human Rights envoy who is set to visit the country in the coming days.
    Rodriguez pointed to the Rubio tweet:
    'How did Marco Rubio know that backup generators had failed? At that time, no one knew that,' the Bolivarian government official asked."


    "The U.S. is well know for cyberattacks as well as for attacks on electricity networks

    In preparation for the 1973 coup against Allende in Chile the U.S. also caused blackouts. Back then the New York Times reported:

    SANTIAGO, Chile, Aug. 13 — A power cut brought a total blackout here as President Salvador Allende Gossens was in the middle of a nationwide address on the country's political crisis.
    ...
    The electricity went off at 10:15 P.M., 35 minutes after President Allende had begun to speak, citing long list of recent acts of terrorism and sabotage that he attributed to “fascist opposition.”
    He went back on the air, The Associated Press reported, as power was beginning to be restored in some areas, and said that the blackout could have been either “a technically explicable failure or a fascist attack.” The news agency said that unidentified saboteurs blew up an electric‐power transmission line outside the city, attributing the information to Fernando Figueroa, general manager of the state power system.


    It wasn't just the "fascist opposition" but the CIA behind it that caused the chaos:
    As described in the Church Committee report, the CIA was involved in multiple plots designed to remove Allende .. [...] [T]he CIA, with the approval of the 40 Committee, attempted to bribe the Chilean legislature, tried to influence public opinion against Allende, and provided funding to strikes designed to coerce him into resigning. [...] In addition, the CIA gave extensive support for black propaganda against Allende, channeled mostly through El Mercurio. Financial assistance was also given to Allende's political opponents, and for organizing strikes and unrest to destabilize the government."


    "Attacks on electricity networks affect the civilian population. Hospitals are hard to run without electricity. Lives are endangered. Both , the Obama and the Trump administration, rejected international attempts to ban cyberattacks that "indiscriminate or systemic harm to individuals and critical infrastructure":

    All members of the European Union signed the agreement. Australia and Turkey joined the United States in declining.
    ...
    Israel, which along with the United States conducted the most sophisticated cyberattack in history, the Stuxnet attack on Iran’s nuclear enrichment program, also declined to sign."
    "The U.S. also rejected an agreement that would ban cyber manipulation of elections. The given reasons are of interest:

    [T]he United States has interfered in foreign elections before, including Italy in the 1940s and Iran and Latin America in the 1950s and 1960s, and some officials say that no American president should be forced to give up that tool if it could prevent a war. Similarly, the Pentagon worries about commitments to avoid using cyberattacks as a prelude to military action. The United States had a secret program, code-named “Nitro Zeus,” which called for turning off the power grid in much of Iran if the two countries had found themselves in a conflict over Iran’s nuclear program. Such a use of cyberweapons is now "
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitro_Zeus


    One hopes all the incubator babies, anyone being operated on or people on blood cleaning systems have survived.
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    It would be very easy to prove that they were a victim of this imaginary cyberattack.

    Which is precisely why they can't do it.


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    How did Marco Rubio know that backup generators had failed? At that time, no one knew that,' the Bolivarian government official asked."
    If he knew the airport was out of power, it's fairly fucking obvious that the backup generators never kicked in.

    Jaysus, what sort of thick cuntos do they think they are talking to?




    Oh.

    Oh Oh.


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    346. Paper Prepared by the Central Intelligence Agency for the Standing Group of the National Security Council


    Proposed Covert Policy and Integrated Program of Action towards CubaI. Introduction

    1. Submitted herewith is a covert program for Cuba within CIA's capabilities. Some parts of the program have already been approved and are being implemented. Being closely inter-related, the total cumulative impact of the courses of action set forth in this program is dependent upon the simultaneous coordinated execution of the individual courses of action.

    2. This program is based on the assumption that current U.S. policy does not contemplate outright military intervention in Cuba or a provocation which can be used as a pretext for an invasion of Cuba by United States military forces. It is further assumed that U.S. policy calls for the exertion of maximum pressure by all means available to the U.S. Government, short of military intervention, to prevent the pacification of the population and the consolidation of the Castro/Communist regime. The ultimate objective of this policy would be to encourage dissident elements in the military and other power centers of the regime to bring about the eventual liquidation of the Castro/Communist entourage and the elimination of the Soviet presence from Cuba

    4. Within the context of the policy assumptions and estimate of the situation in Cuba outlined above, CIA submits a program consisting of the following interdependent courses of action: [Page 830]

    A. Covert collection of intelligence, both for U.S. strategic requirements as well as for operational requirements.
    B. Propaganda actions to stimulate low-risk simple sabotage and other forms of active and passive resistance.
    C. Exploitation and stimulation of disaffection in the Cuban military and other power centers.
    D. Economic denial actions on an increased basis.
    E. General sabotage and harassment.
    F. Support of autonomous anti-Castro Cuban groups to supplement and assist in the execution of the above courses of action.

    Covert propaganda actions are designed to produce a psychological climate in Cuba conducive to the accomplishment of the other courses of action in the integrated covert program. Only after the effects of economic denial and sabotage actions are deeply felt by the populace and the elite groups can one hope to convert disaffection in the armed forces and other power centers of the regime into militant revolt against the Castro/Communist entourage. It is also at this point where CIA-controlled and autonomous activist elements in the Cuban exile community can begin to assume genuine resistance proportions

    B. Propaganda actions to stimulate low-risk simple sabotage and other forms of active and passive resistance.

    C. Exploitation and stimulation of disaffection in the Cuban military and other power centers.

    We are undertaking an intensive probing effort to identify, seek out and establish channels of communication with disaffected and potentially dissident non-Communist elements in the power centers of the regime, particularly in the armed forces hierarchy. The objective is to promote the fragmentation of the regime and possibly lead to an internal coup which would dislodge Castro and his entourage, and make it possible to eliminate the Cuban Communists from positions of power and force the withdrawal of the Soviet military presence and the termination of its economic aid. Several promising operations are already underway

    D. Economic denial actions.

    Overt official U.S. economic sanctions in conjunction with covert economic denial operations (such as denial of [less than 1 line of source text not declassified]) is causing a marked adverse effect on the Cuban economy. For maximum impact on the Cuban economy this effort must be coordinated with sabotage operations

    It must be recognized that no single act of sabotage by itself can materially affect the economy or stimulate significant resistance. However, it is our opinion that a well-planned series of sabotage efforts, properly executed, would in time produce the effect we seek. Each action will have its dangers: there will be failures with consequent loss of life and charges of attribution to the United States resulting in criticism at home and abroad. None of these expected consequences should cause us to change our course if the program as outlined can be expected to be successful.

    Annex A is an elaboration of a proposed sabotage and harassment program against Cuba.

    Annex A

    SUBJECT

    Sabotage/Harassment Program

    The broad target categories against which the sabotage/harassment operations would be mounted and a preliminary evaluation of their effect, can be summarized as follows:

    A. Electric Power

    Disruption of any of the existing power grids which might be effected by damage to or destruction of the generating facilities or of the critical sub-stations in the distribution network, would significantly weaken the existing economic and social structure, particularly in view of the fact that in many areas the power now available is not adequate to meet the demands of industrial and public consumers. Smaller acts of [Page 833]sabotage/harassment by the populace such as throwing chains over high tension lines to short them out, would also exacerbate the current power shortage, and the cumulative effect of all such actions could cause a prolonged breakdown of the power system as there is already a shortage of spare parts and replacement materiels.

    B. Petroleum, Oil and Lubricants (POL)

    Damage to or destruction of POL production and/or storage facilities would seriously affect almost all aspects of the Cuban economy. The electric power industry depends almost entirely upon POL as fuel for the generating plants and the sugar industry depends upon POL powered processing and transportation facilities as does all intra-province transportation. Production and storage facilities are susceptible to external attacks by heavy weapons or by more subtle methods if internal assets having an appropriate degree of accessibility can be developed. The loss of refining facilities could be offset by increased Bloc shipments of refined products but such a shift would require a period of readjustment during which there would be a heavy strain on the Cuban economy. An additional burden on the Bloc refining capacity would also exist until Cuba's refining capacity is restored."

    Complete document can be read here:

    https://history.state.gov/historical...961-63v11/d346

    Substitute Venezuela and it's the same failed play-book.

    Cuba held out, as Venezuela is, currently and has done for a number of years.
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    Anyway, it's comforting to know that no meddling occurs in the Venezuela crisis, as usually the dangerous Mr. P. exercises around the world, especially in (please no names here)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    346. Paper Prepared by the Central Intelligence Agency for the Standing Group of the National Security Council
    .... 50+ years ago.

    They probably had plans to sabotage their horses and carts and windmills, too.


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    "37. Modern-day economic sanctions and blockades are comparable with medieval sieges of towns with the intention of forcing them to surrender. Twenty-first century sanctions attempt to bring not just a town, but sovereign countries to their knees. A difference, perhaps, is that twenty-first century sanctions are accompanied by the manipulation of public opinion through “fake news”, aggressive public relations and a pseudo-human rights rhetoric so as to give the impression that a human rights “end” justifies the criminal means. There is not only a horizontal juridical world order governed by the Charter of the United Nations and principles of sovereign equality, but also a vertical world order reflecting the hierarchy of a geopolitical system that links dominant States with the rest of the world according to military and economic power. It is the latter,geopolitical system that generates geopolitical crimes, hitherto in total impunity. It is reported that the United States is currently training foreign lawyers in how to draft legislation to impose further sanctions on the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela in an effort to asphyxiate Venezuelan State institutions."

    From the UN report on Venezuela by Alfred De Zayas

    Absolutey bang on target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shining Light View Post
    comparable with medieval sieges of towns with the intention of forcing them to surrender.
    There is a subtle difference in that deed: afterwards, at the end of the day, the population will enjoy a democracy...

    (and get power supply switched on]

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    Fifteen years after the U.S. invasion, electricity is still unreliable in Baghdad.

    "Those who came after haven't improved the infrastructure, they haven't built anything, they haven't done anything for the people," says Jabouri. "Saddam's was a brutal regime. But now, I really regret hitting the statue."

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Fifteen years after the U.S. invasion, electricity is still unreliable in Baghdad.

    "Those who came after haven't improved the infrastructure, they haven't built anything, they haven't done anything for the people," says Jabouri. "Saddam's was a brutal regime. But now, I really regret hitting the statue."

    They're in equal 168th place with Venezuela.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrup...ceptions_Index

    When corrupt leaders get carried away with nicking the money, public services suffer.

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