Thread: American coup in Venezuela

Originally Posted by foobar

^Lord Haw Haw really sounds like he cares about starving people....right?

...yet, only two pages ago...

Off he goes about Yemen, too fucking dumb to even understand the part his beloved Iran plays in it.

You really are playing the forum fuckwit.

Originally Posted by OhOh

That doesn't sound very democratic.

The locals recently held an election and the current crew were elected. Some say the elections were spotless.

Or are you now suggesting that if the enlightened ones don't succeed in forcing election after election, until their man wins, the only solution is an illegal foreign created military coup?

What is this "are you now suggesting" bollocks, you idiot. I don't suggest shit. I'm stating as a fact that the only thing keeping Chavismo in power is the fact that he's bribed the military with lucrative key positions in the government and in PDVSA, so they are supporting him.

Some say the elections were spotless.

Yes. Wankers like you.

Originally Posted by The Shining Light

Venezuelans who come to sign a petition against American meddling/invasion, give their opinion.

I'm fairly certain that people who are benefiting from Chavismo's largesse are totally opposed to *any* intervention.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

the part his beloved Iran plays in it.

It would be useful if you actually posted your opinion, backed with facts and sources, rather than this unsubstantiated straw man.

Originally Posted by OhOh

It would be useful if you actually posted your opinion, backed with facts and sources, rather than this unsubstantiated straw man.

It would be useful if you'd actually remember the threads on this forum rather than playing the dumb c u n t going "Post it again! Post it again!".

You predictable, dull fucker.

Originally Posted by OhOh

You "suggested" the above was a solution. My interpretation of your "suggestion is a "somebody", ameristan, it's local figurehead, it's vassals, are the public/visible entities pushing to arrange your acceptable military coup.

From the video I would suggest the citizens desire the acceptance of the last election, which was won by the current president.

What is your other interpretation of you military coup you are in favour of?

Oh FFS why does one have to keep repeating stuff to you? Are you actually that fucking stupid or deliberately obtuse?

If the military stop supporting Chavismo, and Guiado is given the Presidency, he can

- Remove Chavismo's cronies from the Supreme Court
- Abolish Chavismo's crony-laden "Constituent Assembly" and restore constitutional powers to the freely elected National Assembly.
- Remove Chavismo's cronies from the Election Commission
- Hold FREE and FAIR elections, supervised by independent observers (including those from your beloved Chinastan and Putinstan)

All of Guiado's backers are calling for immediate, free and fair elections, and they cannot be held until the first three steps are taken.

Is that clear enough for you, dumbass?

Or do you think I am "suggesting" something?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It would be useful if you'd actually remember the threads on this forum

Unfortunately just because a poster here types something or links to a web site, doesn't automatically make their assertions facts.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

If the military stop supporting

One non active General out of 1,000s does not make your assertion that "the military" is in any way behind or desirous of taking the coup route you blithely presume to be the correct next move.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

- Remove Chavismo's cronies from the Supreme Court
- Abolish Chavismo's crony-laden "Constituent Assembly" and restore constitutional powers to the freely elected National Assembly.
- Remove Chavismo's cronies from the Election Commission

Very democratic steps.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

- Hold FREE and FAIR elections, supervised by independent observers (including those from your beloved Chinastan and Putinstan)

Already done. A clear winner, the current President.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Is that clear enough for you, dumbass?

It appears that you are of the ilk that if a country holds an election and your choice doesn't win, your answer is to demand another, and another, and another ......... until your choice does. Strange understanding of "democracy", but not unexpected from you.

An only child, by chance?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Unfortunately just because a poster here types something or links to a web site, doesn't automatically make their assertions

We know that from your repetitive posting of Chinky and Russian propaganda.

Already done. A clear winner, the current President.

The sort of bullshit you gulp down.

Unfortunately his desperate actions stealing powers from the National Assembly and loading the Supreme Court with his chums is very reminiscent of what Putin does.

Which is why you so gullibly swallow it as you continue your campaign of arselicking dictators.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

If the military stop supporting Chavismo, and Guiado is given the Presidency, he can

- Remove Chavismo's cronies from the Supreme Court
- Abolish Chavismo's crony-laden "Constituent Assembly" and restore constitutional powers to the freely elected National Assembly.
- Remove Chavismo's cronies from the Election Commission
- Hold FREE and FAIR elections, supervised by independent observers

And then at last, all Venezuela will sabai sabai.
After all it has worked in Afgh., Iraq, Libya, hasn't it?

Afp are reporting today that Juan Guaido is asking thousands of Venezuealans to volunteer to carry US aid into the country.
Fearless leader Maduro dismissed the aid as crumbs and rotten and contaminated food and claimed he bought 846 tonnes of medicines and medical supplies
from his old bestie pals,Cuba-China-Russia and he paid for it with own money because we're beggars to no one, more like it beggers belief.

Venezuela’s government says there is no humanitarian crisis in the country. But the stories of worried families navigating its crumbling health system suggest otherwise.


Journalist Susan Schulman went to Venezuela to report on the humanitarian impacts of an economic collapse that has seen more than 1.6 million people flee the country in the last three years – roughly five percent of its total population.

Her images, taken at a hospital and a clinic in the eastern city of Cumana, show a debilitated health system: shortages or a complete dearth of antibiotics and other medicine, run-down equipment, dirty facilities, and often no running water.

Amid the shortages, tiny medical organisations are taking on the responsibilities of the state. Fundación Jesed is one of them. Vanessa Ramos and her husband run the charity out of their living room in Cumana. Desperate patients, their families, and even medical staff turn to these micro-NGOs – there are dozens of them around the country – to source and supply the medication missing from Venezuela’s hospitals.

Schulman accompanied Ramos as she visited clients at Hospital Universitario Antonia Patricio Alcalá in the city centre. Ramos is a life-line for many here. Walking discreetly through derelict hallways, she delivers supplies to a handful of families waiting with bedridden patients.

“People are worried because they don’t have resources to buy medicine and they can’t get it,” Ramos says. “They look to me for a way to help them get hold of these medicines”.

A family frets over their two-year-old child, whose pneumonia can’t be treated because the hospital has run out of the right medicine – as well as bandages and gauze. Another family waits for emphysema drugs that no one can find. One father is just grateful for a bottle of water: the hospital has no running water.

Ramos says she feels the weight of the families who depend on her.

“Most of the cases,” she says, “are life and death”.
A gift from the dying


Vanessa Ramos runs Fundación Jesed out of her apartment. She’s not a doctor: she works a full-time administrative job in the city. She started her charity last year after seeing how a close friend struggled to find leukemia medication for a dying child.

Most of the medication donated to her foundation is sourced and shipped from contacts abroad. Sometimes, she’s able to find drugs inside Venezuela – medicine leftover after patients have died. She keeps the donated drugs in a small cupboard in her living room.
Flies and filth


Vanessa enters the hospital discreetly, careful to avoid the attention of armed security guards. Her foundation is registered as a charity, but she’s still wary of upsetting authorities. Venezuela has continually rejected international aid and denies there’s a humanitarian crisis in the country.

“I go in without making a fuss,” she says.

Flies and filth are everywhere in the hospital’s hallways. The electricity is out; generators supply limited power to high-priority departments. Patients line corridors on stretchers; intravenous tubes hang from the frames of missing ceiling panels. Floors are bloodstained. Piles of rubbish swarm with bugs.
What malnutrition looks like



Barbara Sanchez, 11, is on the hospital’s children’s ward. She suffers from severe malnutrition, pneumonia, and a low hemoglobin count. Her father, 61-year-old retiree Jose Sanchez, waits by her bedside. Ramos gives the father a small box of medication meant to ease the child’s breathing.
A missing diagnosis



Nine-month-old Oranel Enriquez sits in his mother's arms in the children's ward. His mother is distraught. Oranel has a high fever and has been having convulsions. Doctors fear it could be meningitis but they don’t have the supplies to do a test that would confirm it. Ramos brings the mother antibiotics and anticonvulsants, used to treat seizures.
In lieu of drugs, sweet rolls



Over the last year, Ramos says the number of people coming to her for help has soared as medicine grows scarce across the country. Ramos visits the hospital’s cancer ward even though she has no drugs to offer. Instead, she brings sweet rolls and small jars of pureed food.

Ramos recalls trying to help her friend’s two-year-old child, who had leukemia.
“The medicine was extremely expensive and we couldn't get it in Venezuela,” she says. “When we finally got the medicine, the girl was really ill and she passed away.”
“We don’t have the money”



Vanessa visits the waiting room for relatives of patients in intensive care.

Five women are in the room. One of them, Noreiva Hijosa, 56, is distraught. Healthcare is meant to be free in Venezuela, but the doctors have asked her to find a scarce antibiotic for her 34-year-old son, Hilbert.

“He has emphysema and needs to take medicine every day,” she says. “But I can’t find it and now he has an infection. We don’t have the money and the medicine doesn’t exist here”.

Hijosa says her son developed emphysema from his work as a fireman. His colleagues turned to social media to look for the medicine; they found it once, she says, but she couldn’t afford to pay for it.

“He was saving lives and now, look,” she says.
Grateful for water



One-year-old Deiker Marcano lies on a cot while his father, Adonis, 25, looks on. Deiker has gastroenteritis and internal bleeding, and a makeshift oxygen mask covers his head.

Adonis is worried for his son’s health. “We don’t have any money to buy antibiotics or medicine,” he says. “Or water”.
He has become grateful for small kindnesses.

“A woman gave us water as a gift,” he says. “There’s none here.”

On this visit to the hospital, Ramos sees five of her patients. But another five people ask her to find medicine for them.
“In the beginning I became depressed because I had cases where there was no medicine, the parents were worried seeing the children suffer, and I didn’t have the resources to help them,” Ramos says. “But now I am dealing with it, because I suppose I have to be someone who motivates others, to give them hope that we are going to find the medicine”.
“A sense of impotence”



The situation has exasperated medical staff working in Venezuela’s neglected health centres. In a small clinic in another part of Cumana, Dr Rafael Piroza says he has no supplies – not even running water.

The few drugs he is able to find don’t come from the government, but from the tiny medical charities like Fundación Jesed.

In protest of the health conditions now facing the country, staff at the clinic have papered the fence outside the building with signs declaring what’s missing: “No hay antibióticos”; “no hay tratamiento para infectados”; “no hay oxigeno”. The lengthy list written in block letters covers a five-metre section of a chain-link fence.

“There is a frustration and a sense of impotence,” Piroza says. “We are formed to give and fight for life, and that we can’t do that makes us feel like accomplices”.

https://www.irinnews.org/photo-featu...eted-hospitals

^The ol Babies in Incubators gag...

Originally Posted by foobar

^The ol Babies in Incubators gag...

Passable impression of subhuman scum there. Well done.

U.S. Senator Rubio warns Venezuela's Maduro not to act against o​pposition

Will surely ask also in Haiti, Paris, Spain...
(I know, perhaps later, one-by-one)

Senators may investigate 'coup' to remove Donald Trump from office

Originally Posted by foobar

^The ol Babies in Incubators gag...

Looks like it's about time for Pompeo or Bolton to do their impression of Colin Powell.

Well in fact it was a white powder he held up, he just identified it incorrectly/miss-spoke and caused a horrific event on millions.

Being a citizen of an "exceptional' regime, these errors are easily forgotten.

Oh look: Dumb, Dumber and even Dumber.

Anything relevant to report?

US sanctions help India become No.1 buyer of Venezuelan crude

Imports of Venezuela’s oil by India surged 66 percent in the first half of February to 620,000 barrels a day. The country boosted its purchases from the Latin American nation after US stopped shipments from Caracas.
Indian refiners Reliance Industries and Nayara Energy were driving the import boost. Venezuela has sent its oil minister, Manuel Quevedo, to India to convince refiners to double their oil purchases.

“We are selling more than 300,000” bpd to Indian buyers, Quevedo said on Monday in New Delhi, adding: “We want to double that amount.”

https://www.rt.com/business/451804-v...dia-shipments/

Hands Off Venezuela: Historic Stance at the United Nations against US Imperialism




"In a spectacular display of solidarity and strength, envoys from such distant capitals as Beijing and Havana, Moscow and Tehran, Pyongyang and Caracas, Damascus and Managua and numerous other states stood together, side by side, in front of the United Nations Security Council, declaring their determination to protect the UN Charter and International Law, and holding sacrosanct the sovereignty and inviolability of each member state.

All these present, and approximately 50 more aligned, are states whose combined populations comprise more than half the people of the world, and all have been victimized and pauperized by the predations of neoliberal capitalist states bleeding the wealth of their peoples.




Ambassadors at the UN

As Venezuelan Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza read out their new statement, declaring the illegality of unilateral coercive economic sanctions, and territorial invasions, it became obvious that the power of this new solidarity, which includes China, Russia, Cuba, DPRK, Syria, Iran, Palestine, Nicaragua, Venezuela, etc. constitutes a formidable force which Western capitalism will antagonize at its own peril. This is a long overdue counterforce to Western domination of the United Nations, a domination based on money, on the large payments enabling the US and other capitalist powers to bribe, threaten and otherwise control the direction of the UN, and distort and destroy the independence, impartiality and integrity which the UN requires in order to maintain its legitimacy, and implement the sustained global peace and justice for which Franklin Delano Roosevelt created it.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/hands-...ialism/5668780

"In a spectacular display of solidarity and strength, envoys from such distant capitals as Beijing and Havana, Moscow and Tehran, Pyongyang and Caracas, Damascus and Managua and numerous other states stood together, side by side, in front of the United Nations Security Council, declaring their determination to protect the UN Charter and International Law, and holding sacrosanct the sovereignty and inviolability of each member state.

Such great examples of liberal democracies and of course Chinas' respect for the ruling from UNCLOS on the south China sea.



Jeezus, Omo is a good name for you. You could make a turd look whiter than white.

Well those authoritarians have to stick together you know.