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    West’s Anti-Chinese Campaign Failing Spectacularly

    20.10.2020 Author: Joseph Thomas

    "Even as AFP tried to depict a recent United Nations human rights meeting as a landmark stand against what it claims are human rights abuses by China in its Xinjiang region, its own article points out just how big a failure it really was and how badly Western influence has waned in general.

    The AFP’s headline read, “Nearly 40 nations demand China respect Uighur human rights,” and notes that among those “nearly 40″ nations were the US, most EU member states, Australia as well as Japan and a handful of other Western client states.
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    The US, Japan and many EU nations joined a call on Tuesday urging China to respect the human rights of minority Uighurs, and also expressing concern about the situation in Hong Kong.“We call on China to respect human rights, particularly the rights of persons belonging to religious and ethnic minorities, especially in Xinjiang and Tibet,” said German UN ambassador Christoph Heusgen, who led the initiative during of a meeting on human rights.

    The initiative, signed by 39 nations, was countered by another presented by Pakistan singed by 55 nations as well as one presented by Cuba singed by 45 nations. Many of the signatories were very telling in regards to Washington’s and its Western-led international order’s waning power.

    Despite the West’s anti-Chinese Xinjiang propaganda campaign focused on the alleged abuses of Xinjiang’s Uighur minority who are predominately Muslim, not a single Muslim-majority nation backed the Western initiative at the UN. In fact, many Muslim-majority nations came to China’s aid. This includes Pakistan itself, Iran and Syria but also US-occupied Iraq and even Kuwait, Qatar, the UAE and Saudi Arabia.

    Even nations with ongoing territorial disputes with China in the South China Sea and a history of tensions, including Vietnam and the Philippines backed Beijing.India, despite being a member of Washington’s anti-Chinese “Quad” project, refrained from signing either statement as did a great number of other key nations carefully trying to reorient themselves as global power shifts from West to East. This includes NATO-member Turkey who has for many decades been a faithful servant of Western hegemony.

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    There are three primary reasons why the majority of the world is not interested in this US-led anti-Chinese propaganda campaign.

    First and most importantly, this US-led propaganda campaign is based on fabricated allegations.
    As many others have pointed out for years, including the Western media itself at one very early point, China faced a very real terrorism problem in Xinjiang. The current US-led propaganda campaign aimed against China depicts security measures and deradicalisation campaigns as “human rights abuses” while omitting entirely the violence that necessitated them in the first place.

    Worse still is documented evidence exposing the fact that the US and its allies were behind efforts to radicalise Uighur extremists in the first place.

    All things being equal, nations not invested in or benefiting from Washington’s ongoing obsession with encircling and containing China have no reason to endorse a propaganda campaign built on fabricated allegations and resulting from US-sponsored separatism and the terrorism stemming from it.

    In fact, by supporting the US campaign against China, they would be supporting interference that could one day eventually be turned on them . The list of nations the US and its partners have already destroyed in the 21st century alone is considerably long and still growing.

    Secondly, the US and its Western allies clearly lack the ability to coerce disinterested nations into backing its ongoing anti-Chinese propaganda campaign. A lack of motivation from the world’s nations to join and a lack of leverage the US possesses to force them to join led most nations to either openly back China or avoid taking a stance altogether.

    Third is owed to China’s rise. Its brand of international relations is predicated on economic ties and business rather than military force, political interference or other strategies in the West’s “soft power” toolkit.
    China’s rise also means the rise of many nations doing business with Beijing. Chinese-led infrastructure projects, investments, tourism and trade across the globe are boosting the economies of nations willing to work with China in ways the West is simply unable to compete with.

    In order to work with China, these nations must navigate their way around Washington’s growing hostility toward China and all the ways it manifests itself, with this “German” led imitative at the UN the latest example.

    Failure at the “Height” of Xinjiang Propaganda Means Total Failure for US Propaganda


    This latest move at the UN comes at perhaps the “height” of Washington’s anti-Chinese Xinjiang propaganda campaign.
    With this move demonstrating just how little the rest of the world is interested in it and with the many now exposed lies the campaign itself is built on, it will only lose more momentum as time goes by. With China moving forward with Hong Kong’s re-integration with the mainland after putting down US-funded unrest there and likewise displacing US-backed agitators in places like Tibet with economic progress the US is left with inventing new stories to attack China over.

    But if the world is not interested in US lies regarding “millions” of Uighurs being detained and abused in China’s Xinjiang region, knowing fully what the US is doing and why, there is little chance newly invented lies will have any more appeal or traction in the near future.

    As long as China remains committed to its current strategy of bringing economic growth and political stability to the world versus America’s belligerence and coercion minus any discernible benefits for prospective partners, this trend of Western credibility shirking alongside its declining political, economic and even military might will continue.

    Only when the US and its remaining partners are willing to reorient themselves toward what the world is actually transforming into rather than how they wish the world was, will they (like everyone else) begin to enjoy the full benefits of a new multipolar world where national sovereignty and economic progress underpinned by a more equitable balance of power supplants the West’s enduring and destructive pursuit of global hegemony.
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    West’s Anti-Chinese Campaign Failing Spectacularly | New Eastern Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    said illegal fishing had overtaken counter-narcotics and anti-piracy
    ameristan losing one war after another.

    War on poverty - failed, war on terror - failed, war on drugs - failed, war on racism failed ....

    The new war on fishermen - awaiting outcome.

    No victories so far since the north beat the south., with the help of the Russians, French .....

    War on China - Failed.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Exclusive: Indonesia rejected U.S. request to host spy planes - officials


    October 20, 202012:36 PM Updated 2 days ago

    "JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia rejected this year a proposal by the United States to allow its P-8 Poseidon maritime surveillance planes to land and refuel there, according to four senior Indonesian officials familiar with the matter

    U.S. officials made multiple “high-level” approaches in July and August to Indonesia’s defence and foreign ministers before Indonesia’s president, Joko Widodo, rebuffed the request, the officials said.

    Representatives for Indonesia’s president and defence minister, the U.S. State Department press office and the U.S. embassy in Jakarta did not respond to requests for comment. Representatives for the U.S. Department of Defence and Indonesia’s foreign minister Retno Marsudi declined to comment.

    The proposition, which came as the U.S. and China escalated their contest for influence in Southeast Asia, surprised Indonesia’s government, the officials said, because Indonesia has a long-standing policy of foreign policy neutrality. The country has never allowed foreign militaries to operate there.

    The P-8 plays a central role in keeping an eye on China’s military activity in the South China Sea, most of which Beijing claims as sovereign territory. Vietnam, Malaysia, the Philippines and Brunei have rival claims to the resource-rich waters, through which $3 trillion worth of trade passes each year.

    Indonesia is not a formal claimant in the strategically important waterway, but considers a portion of the South China Sea as its own. It has regularly repelled Chinese coast guard vessels and fishing boats from an area to which Beijing says it has a historic claim.

    But the country also has growing economic and investment links with China. It does not want to take sides in the conflict and is alarmed by growing tensions between the two superpowers, and by the militarisation of the South China Sea, Retno told Reuters.

    “We don’t want to get trapped by this rivalry,” Retno said in an interview in early September. “Indonesia wants to show all that we are ready to be your partner.”


    Exclusive: Indonesia rejected U.S. request to host spy planes - officials | Reuters

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    I wonder if he's taking a stick or a carrot?

    JAKARTA (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will visit Indonesia next week, his first trip to the country since its leadership rejected a U.S. proposal to host its spy planes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Exclusive: Indonesia rejected U.S. request to host spy planes - officials


    October 20, 202012:36 PM Updated 2 days ago

    "JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia rejected this year a proposal by the United States to allow its P-8 Poseidon maritime surveillance planes to land and refuel there, according to four senior Indonesian officials familiar with the matter



    Exclusive: Indonesia rejected U.S. request to host spy planes - officials | Reuters
    Now lets wait and see if the ISIS cell is activated. Just as it was in the Philippines when Duterte made some deals with China

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    or a carrot
    Pompeo to visit Indonesia after spy plane rebuff | Reuters

    As most are aware that an ameristani legal "carrot". Promised by a here today and possibly gone tomorrow appointed message boy, are never delivered. I suspect a stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I wonder if he's taking a stick or a carrot?
    It's both. Just like after the fat cvnt corn farmer from Nebraska visited Belarus

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Pompeo to visit Indonesia after spy plane rebuff | Reuters

    As most are aware that an ameristani legal "carrot". Promised by a here today and possibly gone tomorrow appointed message boy, are never delivered. I suspect a stick.
    Whatever he intends to deliver, he's only got until November 4th to deliver it.

    After that no-one is going to listen to a fucking word baldy orange cunto says.

    Lame Duck is the least insulting thing they'll be calling him.

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    Economic implications of BRI for Kazakhstan and Switzerland discussed in Zurich

    25 October 2020 10:41
    "A roundtable in Zürich discussed the economic implications of the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) for Kazakhstan and Switzerland, Kazinform has learnt from the press service of the Kazakh MFA. Mr. Alibek Bakayev, Kazakh Ambassador to Switzerland and Liechtenstein, and Mr. Thomas Kowitzki, Head of Chinarail/Multimodal Service at DHL for the European Region, discussed together with representatives from media and the economy opportunities and challenges for the two countries.

    DHL sees new opportunities «Logistic is the backbone of the world economy» says Mr. Kowitzki, and the BRI will play a central role in the future. Compared to other means of transport, the BRI train line increases flexibility («door-to-door» service, geographical coverage), reliability (clearly defined departing and arrival times, daily running trains), transparence (all customers can supervise the location of their container through GPS), and sustainability (95% less CO2 than air transport).

    Within the BRI, Kazakhstan plays a major strategic and operative role on both rail and road logistics, adds Mr. Kowitzki. The Khorgos gateway at the Kazakh-Chinese boarder is the biggest dry dock in the world unloading thousands of containers on the rails every month. The Central Asian country is also an important transit hub for lorries transporting good from China to Europe, Mr. Kowitzki points out. Kazakhstan and Switzerland’s role in the Belt and Road Initiative In view of the new Silk Road, Kazakhstan’s transport infrastructure has progressed massively in recent years.

    Since 2015, around 12,500 kilometres of roads and more than 2,500 kilometres of tracks have been newly built or comprehensively rehabilitated nationwide. Alibek Bakayev is convinced that the BRI will increase Kazakhstan’s standing in geopolitics and economical questions, as well as its role as a trading partner connecting East Asia and Europe. He also sees a bright future for Switzerland.

    «The BRI is the main point on the Kazakh-Swiss economic agenda», explains Mr. Bakayev, and politicians from both countries are working hand in hand. Already today, around 40 large and small Swiss enterprises are based or related to Kazakhstan and thanks to the BRI, this number is supposed to increase strongly over the next years.

    The BRI offers incentives for SMEs as well as for large players along the entire value chain: SMEs will be able to enter global value chains and local financial institutions could finance such industrial consortia, while Swiss Export Risk Insurance (SERV) could insure any political risks. Indeed, the biggest potential might be seen by the financial services sector. Swiss insurance companies are in the pole position to (re)insure specific infrastructural projects.

    Challenges of the BRI While COVID-19 has resulted in a huge push for the BRI, as it was more reliable and more available than air transport, there are still some challenges to solve. The main challenge being border controls in Europe which do not yet cope with the growth of the BRI in recent years. This causes a situation where the trains run through China and Kazakhstan in a few days, but then spend most of their 12-day journey on the last few hundred kilometers between Poland and Central Europe, says Mr. Kowitzki. This is precisely the interface where Politicians and Economic leaders need to work hand in hand, both speakers agreed."

    Economic implications of BRI for Kazakhstan and Switzerland discussed in Zurich

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    New Bohai Sea gas field goes into operation

    Source: Xinhua| 2020-10-23 2239|Editor: huaxia

    BEIJING, Oct. 23 (Xinhua) --

    "The China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC), the listed unit of the largest producer of offshore crude oil and natural gas in China, said on Friday that its new gas field in the Bohai Sea commenced production.
    Discovered in 2019, the Bozhong 19-6 gas field pilot-area development project is in the central Bohai Sea with an average water depth of about 23 meters.

    The project is expected to reach its peak production of 1 million cubic meters of natural gas and 910 cubic meters of condensate oil per day by the end of 2020.

    By the end of 2019, the Bozhong 19-6 gas field had proven reserves of 180 million cubic meters of oil and 171.2 billion cubic meters of natural gas."

    New Bohai Sea gas field goes into operation - Xinhua | English.news.cn
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    Friendship highway leads Pakistan's Hunza to prosperity

    Source: Xinhua| 2020-10-25 0156|Editor: huaxia

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    ISLAMABAD, Oct. 24 (Xinhua) -- As night falls, the crowded Aliabad bazaar in Pakistan's northern Hunza district is lit up by lights of the shops on a main road, with neon light signs of hotels and restaurants trying to catch people's eyes.

    Najeeb Uddin runs a handicraft shop at the major local bazaar. "I took over this shop from my father. We sell traditional Hunza handicrafts including caps featured with feathers, shawls, clothes and jewelry," he said.

    The family shop has operated for more than 20 years. "Many of our customers are tourists from Karachi, Islamabad and Rawalpindi," the 23-year-old told Xinhua.

    Located in the Gilgit-Baltistan (GB) region, Hunza is near the Karakoram and the Hindu Kush ranges, charming tourists with grand snow-topped mountains, glaciers, scenic valleys and a long history.

    It received an increasing number of domestic and foreign visitors over recent years, said Uddin, and it also saw a large number of new shops, restaurants, hotels and guesthouses erected.

    Near the famous historical site Baltit Fort, 39-year-old Laal Shehzadi opened a small restaurant six years ago, selling local specialty food to help support her family.

    "When I opened this food pavilion, there was few women who started their own business. But with the rapid development of tourism, many women now follow the same path to start business," the mother of four children said.

    "My business is getting better and better in recent years and the Aliabad bazaar has also been expanded," Uddin said. "None of these can be achieved without the Karakoram Highway (KKH) outside the door, that runs through the whole bazaar, because a good road is a precondition for attracting tourists."

    As one of the highest paved roads in the world, the construction of the Karakoram highway from 1966 to 1978 experienced huge difficulties, with hundreds of Chinese and Pakistani workers sacrificing their lives during the construction. The road is also called the China-Pakistan Friendship Highway.

    The highway had become over-crowded and dilapidated in decades. In 2008, the China Road and Bridge Corporation (CRBC) started to upgrade and rebuild the 335-km section running between the Raikot bridge and the Khunjerab Pass. The renovation work took seven years to complete, with the Chinese and Pakistani workers overcoming the challenges of earthquakes, landslides and rock-fall in the so-called "Museum of Geohazards" area.

    In 2010, a massive landslide happened in Hunza blocking the flow of the Hunza River while burying and inundating parts of the Karakoram highway, creating the Attabad Lake. The upper Hunza's 25,000 inhabitants were cut off, with boats becoming the only transport means.

    To solve this problem, the CRBC decided to realign the Karakoram highway and managed to build five tunnels of seven kilometers in total length in the mountains.
    he Attabad Lake, once a big trouble for travels and logistics, has now become a major tourist attraction. There are rowing boats, motorboats and other recreational facilities on the lake and many hotels have been built by the lake.

    "In my eyes, the KKH is the eighth wonder of the world, because it was built in an area where the geological condition and topography are so complex. In many areas of Pakistan's north, the roads are very bumpy, but the KKH enables the tourists to have a pleasant journey and enjoy the beautiful scenery along the road," Irfan Naseer, manager of lakeside hotel Luxus Hunza told Xinhua.

    "The KKH has greatly facilitated the development of tourism industry in Hunza," Naseer added.

    "Although October is already in off-season, the beautiful colors of yellow, red and green in Hunza valley still attract many tourists. All of our 24 rooms are occupied every day recently," he said.

    "Next year, we plan to build six more rooms, because we have confidence in the future of the tourism industry here," said the hotel manager.

    Speaking to Xinhua, Faizullah Firak, spokesperson of the Gilgit-Baltistan government, said, "The KKH is the backbone of GB's tourism ... domestic tourism in GB started after the construction of the KKH. Many foreign tourists who came to GB praised the KKH and in their suggestions to the GB government, they advised to build more roads like the KKH."

    Serving as the main artery, the highway is also vital for shipping the local farm produce like apples, apricots, cherries, potatoes and dry fruits, according to the spokesperson. "The road is the most important means of earning bread and butter, for the people of the area."

    With the progress in the implementation of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), China-Pakistan friendship has grown deeper and stronger.

    At the end of July, the Havelian-Thakot section of the Karakoram highway, again built by the CRBC and run as a CPEC project, was officially opened for traffic, extending the highway further southward.

    With the CPEC bringing further benefits to Pakistan, Hunza's road to prosperity will become wider and smoother.

    Feature: Friendship highway leads Pakistan's Hunza to prosperity - Xinhua | English.news.cn

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    China Announces More Assistance to Laos During Official Visit


    "China has agreed to assist Laos across three initiatives as part of its efforts to strengthen cooperative ties between the two countries. The new assistance was announced following an official visit to Laos yesterday by Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi.

    According to Vientiane Times, the three initiatives will see China supplying materials to Laos to fight dengue fever, the beginning of Phase 2 of the rural development infrastructure project, and China offering a Generalized System of Preferences (GSP) to 97% of Laos’ export goods.

    The two sides also agreed in principle to facilitate the transport of goods across border crossings between Laos and China, according to a press release from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

    A fast-track immigration policy was also discussed, which would allow certain privileges to Chinese individuals with respect to entry and exit procedures, particularly for diplomatic staff, technical experts, and essential foreign workers.

    These measures will help to boost the economy in Laos while ensuring the smooth implementation of Chinese development projects during the Covid-19 pandemic.
    China was Laos’ second-largest trading partner in 2019, with bilateral trade valued at USD 3.5 billion, up 17.4 percent compared to 2018.

    Foreign Minister Wang also met with the President of Laos, Bounnhang Vorachit, on Wednesday to discuss bilateral relations and cooperation.

    President Bounnhang said the relationship between Laos and China has maintained positive momentum for development despite the COVID-19 pandemic. He expressed thanks, on behalf of the Party and Government to the Chinese government and people for their great support in Laos’ fight against the Covid-19 pandemic.

    He said that Laos firmly supports China in safeguarding its legitimate rights and interests, and stands with China to jointly build the Laos-China community of shared future, according to a report in Xinhua.

    The Chinese foreign minister noted that in the face of post-pandemic challenges, China and Laos should each make efforts to coordinate epidemic control with economic development.
    He also said that China is willing to offer Laos priority access to vaccines once they are successfully developed and put into use.

    On the same day, Foreign Minister Wang met with Lao Prime Minister Thongloun Sisoulith, saying he appreciated Laos’ strong support for China during the crucial period of fighting the Covid-19 outbreak.

    Prime Minister Thongloun expressed his gratitude to China for its assistance in socio-economic development, and for the assistance provided in fighting the Covid-19 pandemic. He said Laos and CHina are friends and comrades with an unbreakable friendship.

    Foreign Minister Wang Yi is in Laos as part of a tour of ASEAN, having first visited Cambodia, and going on to Malaysia and Thailand, with a final stop in Singapore.

    https://laotiantimes.com/2020/10/15/...fficial-visit/

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    Fucking hell, they can't afford the "assistance" they've already got. The chinkies are really sucking them dry.

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    China Announces More Assistance
    Why they do not assist more, something like it was "assisted" e.g. in Haiti?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Why they do not assist more, something like it was "assisted" e.g. in Haiti?
    Ask them . . . and who are you quoting and what kind of assistance do you think Haiti received?

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    EDL, Geely and Krittaphong Group Sign Electric Vehicle Deal

    By Phayboune Thanabouasy

    October 21, 2020

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    "Electricite du Laos and GEELY Technology Company in collaboration with Krittaphong Group have signed an agreement on cooperation for the development of the electric vehicle sector in Laos.

    According to a report by the Ministry of Energy and Mines, the Electric Vehicle Development Project will promote the use of electric vehicles in Laos.

    The signing ceremony took place in Vientiane capital on Tuesday, witnessed by Minister of Energy and Mines, Dr. Khammany Inthirath, the Chinese Ambassador to Laos, and other relevant officials.

    Minister of Energy and Mines, Dr. Khammany Inthilath, praised the new venture, saying the cooperation on electricic vehicle (EV) development is a major part of the country’s strategic plan in the energy sector.

    Laos is promoting the use of clean energy in the transport sector as part of measures to translate the government’s policy into an action plan until 2025, a strategy for 2030, and a vision for 2050 for supplying energy to the sector.

    He said the project could be run using domestically produced energy, which would help Laos reduce its reliance on fuel imports and fuel price risk.
    The project will undertake a feasibility study on vehicle system development, technical service center construction, and public charging stations at various locations.

    The nation’s first Electric Vehicle Summit was held in April last year, where Electricite du Laos signed an agreement with EV Laos on the testing of electricic vehicle charging stations.

    EV Laos then teamed up with BCEL to launch a smart card system for the payment of charging costs for electric vehicles.
    Laos imports a large volume of fuel annually which has caused a huge trade deficit over the years, according to the Ministry of Energy and Mines.

    Meanwhile, Japanese electric vehicle cable manufacturer, Bando Densen, has opened a factory in Savannakhet Province and will produce many of the cables used in electric vehicles around the world."

    https://laotiantimes.com/2020/10/21/...-vehicle-deal/

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    A great video about the chinky parasites trying to hoover up everyone else's fish.


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    China 'way ahead of' global electric vehicles competition: UK newspape

    2020-10-29 0111Xinhua Editor : Wang Fan

    "China has become one of the most favorable places in the world to make competitively priced electric vehicles (EVs) amid increasing concerns over climate change, a major British newspaper reported Wednesday.
    Despite "eye-popping" valuations of some EV companies on the stock markets, "the China EV theme still has many believers", the London-based Financial Times said in an opinion article.

    "These investors see China leveraging its huge scale advantages to make the first EVs that can compete on price with traditional cars. Then, they predict, such cars will find a ready international market in a world increasingly worried about climate change," read the article.

    According to Karine Hirn, a Hong Kong-based partner of asset manager East Capital, when mass-market scale is reached, the advantages will trickle back to China's supply chain.


    Chinese battery makers and auto parts suppliers will benefit a lot, "both from the point of view of the domestic market and from global market demand since they are way ahead of the competition due to scale advantages," Hirn was quoted as saying.

    Meanwhile, the development of China's local EV supply chain is likely to be stimulated by U.S. carmaker Tesla's entry into China last year, observers said.

    Tesla rolled out the "Model 3" from its gigafactory near Shanghai, east China, in January. Some observers now think a 100 percent locally produced "Model 3" is a possibility, said the report.

    Tesla began exporting its made-in-China "Model 3" to Europe on Tuesday, signaling the rapid development of foreign automakers in China amid the country's opening up of the auto sector.

    Boasting the world's largest new energy vehicles (NEVs) inventory, China accounts for 55 percent of global NEV sales.

    In September, overall sales of passenger vehicles in China gained 8 percent year-on-year to hit 2.09 million units, while NEVs sales surged 67.7 percent to 138,000 units."


    To meet new demand generated by green consumption, the State Council, China's cabinet, approved a plan in early October to boost the NEV industry, which underlined efforts to tackle vital technologies, consolidate the construction of infrastructure including charging facilities and strengthen international cooperation.

    China 'way ahead of' global electric vehicles competition: UK newspaper

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    Another informative video, this time showing the chinkies trying to nick Argentina's fish. They really are parasites on the planet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I wonder if he's taking a stick or a carrot?
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    After that no-one is going to listen to a fucking word baldy orange cunto says.
    Indonesia spells out terms of engagement with US

    October 30, 2020 by M. K. BHADRAKUMAR



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    Indonesian President Joko Widodo (R) received US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (L), Jakarta, October 29, 2020

    "On the eve of the US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s arrival in Jakarta on October 28, the senior editor of the leading Indonesian daily Jakarta Post Kornelius Purba wrote a taunting op-ed dwelling on what the heavyweight from Washington hoped to achieve in his mission at this late hour when an impression was gaining ground that Donald Trump might lose the November 3 election. Clearly, Pompeo could afford to be away from his country. Which only meant he didn’t count in Trump’s politics — and, even if Trump wins, Pompeo may not hold his current position.

    Purba wrote, “Please don’t take it personally, when I consider your [Pompeo’s] efforts to involve Indonesia in your country’s confrontation with China, to be impossible mission. This is not because we are afraid of China, but Indonesia needs both the US and China, and Indonesia will forever keep its free and active foreign policy intact.”

    At the joint news conference with Pompeo after the talks in Jakarta, Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi implied much the same when she said Indonesia wanted a “stable and peaceful” South China Sea where international law was respected, but also reminded Pompeo (twice) that her country pursued a “free and independent” foreign policy.

    Retno wrote on tweeter that Indonesia sought with the US “a partnership between equals based on mutual respect and mutual benefits.” Jakarta has a testy maritime dispute with China. And “incidents” occur do now and then.

    In fact, Retno alluded to it indirectly at the press conference by referring to the meeting of the Indonesian defence minister with his American counterpart in May in Washington where “they agreed to enhance defence cooperation, including by strengthening defence capabilities and military procurement to achieve minimum essential force, training and exercises, intelligence sharings, and maritime security cooperation in the region.”

    Although Indonesian officials oppose China’s maritime claims, they have also expressed concern about Washington’s strident anti-China policies and rhetoric. This curious balancing spills over to public diplomacy as well. On the eve of Pompeo’s visit, the Jakarta Post featured an article by the Chinese envoy with the catchy title China-Indonesia ties: Surge forward with the tide of the times.”

    Ambassador Xiao Xian wrote, “Undeterred by the epidemic, two-way trade between China and Indonesia have achieved continuous growth, which is a testament to the strong complementarities in our respective development as well as the strength and potential of bilateral ties…

    “Nonetheless, we shall guard against any attempt to interfere or undermine the friendship between China and Indonesia. We are ready to work with the Indonesian side to act upon the fundamental and long-term interest of our two countries and peoples, resist external interference and stay steadily on the right course to continue to develop ties and win-win cooperation.”

    The US has lost its preeminence in the ASEAN region. China has evicted it from that status. Symptomatic of the shift in tectonic plates is the refusal by Indonesia to accede to a US proposal to allow its P-8 Poseidon maritime surveillance planes spying on China in the South China Sea to land and refuel there.

    An exclusive Reuters report said last week, Washington made “multiple “high-level” approaches in July and August to Indonesia’s defence and foreign ministers before President Widodo, “rebuffed the request.” One reason for Pompeo’s trip would have been to smoothen ruffled feathers. Neither side made any reference to the issue publicly.

    Indeed, in the first half of 2020, China remains Indonesia’s largest trading partner and second-largest investor, with trade volume reaching $35.53 billion and Chinese investment growing by 172 percent. (In comparison, US-Indonesia trade is less than half of China’s.) The prestigious Jakarta-Bandung High-Speed Rail Project has finally got under way, and by September, despite the pandemic, construction progress reached 60 percent. (Project’s estimated cost in 2015 was put at $5.5 billion.)

    The Regional Comprehensive Economic Corridors under China’s Belt and Road Initiative are also making steady progress. A total of 28 selected projects have now been presented to Chinese investors worth a whopping $91.1 billion — all infrastructure projects, including industrial parks, metallurgical and power plants, and tourism facilities.

    Unsurprisingly, Pompeo came away empty-handed. Indonesia will do cherry-picking now. Purba wrote, “Indonesia, as well as all of ASEAN, needs a strong US military presence… Indonesia, however, never wants to form any security alliance despite regional rivalries.”

    Pompeo wouldn’t have left a good impression. There was a “clash of civilisations” at the end of his visit. On October 29, Pompeo attended a dialogue on religion and civilisation in Jakarta, organised by the youth wing of Indonesia’s largest Islamic organisation Nahdlatul Ulama.

    For sure, in his hour-long speech, Pompeo didn’t miss the opportunity to make some atrocious references berating the “Iranian regime’s persecution of Baha’is, Christians, Sunni Muslims, and other minority groups” and the Chinese Communist Party’s “war against people of all faiths.”

    The people of Java are famous for their old world courtesies and the audience listened in silence. But during the Q&A that followed, a student leader nailed Pompeo, ‘How do you and these Arab states plan to address the needs and aspirations of the Palestinian people?’

    Pompeo went into a laborious argument — how, actually, Abraham Accords “enhances the capacity for the Palestinian people to have a state and to make the lives better for people all across the Middle East, certainly including the West Bank and the Gaza Strip and the Palestinians living there… we think the Abraham Accords sets the conditions where Arab states have now recognised that Israel has this right to exist. We hope the Palestinians will acknowledge that in the same way.”

    But, realising he wasn’t reaching anywhere, Pompeo gave up, acknowledging upfront: “For an awfully long time – and I’ll finish with this thought – for an awfully long time, there was this idea that somehow the Palestinians had a veto which would prevent any conversation about stability and peace in the Middle East. We didn’t accept that premise.”

    The adrenaline flow, perhaps, but Pompeo clean forgot in the bargain all about greeting his audience on the birthday of Prophet Muhammad, an important on the Muslim calendar. The point is, American ‘exceptionalism’ sucks.

    Indonesia is the biggest country in the ASEAN grouping and a rising star among great powers. It is rapidly advancing on the path of development. Jokowi has embarked on an ambitious reform programme. He will not be deflected from his path by distractions such as the QUAD.

    Jokowi’s approach is to be firm in safeguarding territorial integrity while opting for constructive engagement with China, which is the linchpin of his economic reform programme.

    Jokowi was elected to power at the same time as India’s Modi but the contrast couldn’t be sharper — no hyperbole, no grandstanding, no boastful claims or false promises; instead, the low-profile statesman navigates his country’s economic ascendance as the top priority at this point in time on its development trajectory.

    Jokowi’s meeting with Pompeo was largely devoted to economic issues. From February, Washington decided not to extend the Generalised System of Preferences facilities to Indonesia’s exports to the US market. Jakarta has since lobbied Washington but of no avail.

    China is going to be a huge beneficiary in the tango with this Asian powerhouse (population: 270 million.) Jokowi’s reform programme is just what suits China for expanding its trade and investment opportunities in Indonesia and to build a brand new supply chain in the ASEAN region, which can withstand future shocks or vagaries of the world economy such as the coronavirus pandemic and be impervious to US pressure."


    https://indianpunchline.com/indonesia-spells-out-terms-of-engagement-with-us/


    Further reports of the visit can be found here:

    https://www.thejakartapost.com/academia/2020/10/27/us-secretary-of-state-pompeos-visit-is-more-of-a-farewell.html

    https://www.thejakartapost.com/academia/2020/10/29/insight-china-indonesia-ties-surge-forward-with-the-tide-of-the-times.html

    https://www.state.gov/secretary-mich...retno-marsudi/
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    Indonesia spells out terms of engagement with US
    And then you cite three more links? Because you somehow feel the need to convince everyone that Indonesia has its own ideas on foreign affairs?

    Definitely worthy of many citations, but at least you're using relatively acceptable and unbiased links for a change . . . well most of them

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    An insight of the Chinese political and economic system.

    The China Wave: Rise of the Civilisational State
    – Prof. Zhang Weiwei (2012)

    Chinese scholar, Zhang Weiwei, who is a Professor of International Relations at Fudan University, a Visiting Professor at the Geneva School of Diplomacy and International Relations and, a Senior Research Fellow at the Chunqiu Institute.

    Available online to purchase.

    Here is a link to a lecture delivered by the author Prof. Zhang Weiwei on July 11 2017 to an audience at the Schiller Institute, Berlin, Germany.

    https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2...07-18_4433.pdf

    For those desiring to understand how and why China is able to govern, manage, deliver and retain it's citizens trust, the lecture pdf is a worthwhile read.

    Take note that the book was published in 2012, the lecture given in 2017.

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    Trump and Assad: the ongoing negotiation

    Posted on 31/10/2020 by Elijah J Magnier


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    "In 2012, the US administration closed the American Embassy’s doors in Damascus and, two years later, ordered the Syrian Embassy in Washington to close. However, an exchange of messages continued through the Czech embassy, and the backchannel never closed. President Donald Trump, known for his willingness to strike business deals, decided to take the contacts further with President Bashar al-Assad. In 2017, he sent a military-political delegation to Damascus airport, intending to reach a breakthrough. Other visits followed, along with letters from President Trump that President Assad refused to accept. The question here is: why did the US leak details about an August meeting between Syrian Brigadier General Ali Mamlouk and President Donald Trump’s Special envoy for Hostage Affairs and Senior Director for Counterterrorism Roger Carstens, together with Trump Counterterrorism advisor Kash Patel, in the heart of the capital Damascus?

    President Trump moved further than the contact level initially established with the Syrian leadership. He opted for direct negotiation over details to find common ground between the two countries. In the art of diplomacy –the art of the impossible– negotiations are expected to move cautiously when there are essential requests on both sides. Each country will try to “improve” its demands, particularly in this case, when both the US and Syria have many cards to play in the exchange of mutual concessions.

    The US has requested that Syria “change its behaviour”. This request was first made in 2003 by US Secretary of State Colin Powell during his visit to Damascus just after the US occupation of Iraq. Powell asked Assad to give up support for Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran.

    During the Syrian war, President Assad cut his relationship with Hamas on account of its support for the jihadists and NATO-sponsored regime-change. It is, however, only a matter of time until the relationship between Assad and Hamas is restored; Hamas has changed and is no longer anti-Assad. The group has recognised that it has made a grave mistake and wants to repair the relationship with Assad. Despite Hamas’s support to jihadists Takfiri, Syria has never abandoned the Palestinian cause.

    The Syrian-Hezbollah relationship is no longer on the table for Assad. Both Iran and Hezbollah were significant contributors to the unity of Syria in defending their ally and preventing the Syrian government from capitulating to the Jihadists throughout nine years of war.

    President Assad has said repeatedly that Hezbollah and Iran are in Syria at the invitation of the Syrian government and will leave when requested to do so. However, Assad is not expected to offer this card to President Trump without a hefty price- including not only US withdrawal from al-Tanf and east-Syria but also recovery of the occupied Golan Heights that Trump unlawfully offered to Israel. Thus, it is certainly not in Syria’s interest to ask Iran and Hezbollah to leave southern Syria and clear the occupied Golan Heights area. It is a question of price and what one side can get from the other over the negotiation table.

    Damascus believes that the US leaked information related to the meeting last August to the press as part of a pre-prepared plan to soften the ground for further overt negotiation. The US administration – that hopes and believes it will remain in power for another four years – is preparing the mainstream media– which is hostile towards both Trump and Assad—for such a deal.

    President Trump needs highly valid reasons for peace to offer US public opinion and those who wrote reams of articles against President Assad in the last nine years. The search for the six American citizens who the US believes are in Syrian government custody is a valid reason for Trump to negotiate with Assad- to bring US citizens back home.

    No one in America can contest this objective and, if in exchange the US President has to withdraw forces from Syria, the price is not too high because the US forces anyway are considered occupation forces and their presence is illegal."


    Trump and Assad: the ongoing negotiation – Elijah J. Magnier

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