Eurasia Topics

**Klondyke** · 27-08-2020, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No, it's showing me that RT will give voice to every lunatic out there if they're having a pop at the West, you fucking moron.

THAT is what it's there for.

That's in crass contrast to other unbiased (non-state) MSM giving their voice to.... (please fill in any lunatic)...

**Backspin** · 27-08-2020, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No, it's showing me that RT will give voice to every lunatic out there if they're having a pop at the West, you fucking moron.

THAT is what it's there for.

Exactly. And they do this because that's what the west does to Russia

**harrybarracuda** · 27-08-2020, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by Backspin

Exactly. And they do this because that's what the west does to Russia

Was it a lack of oxygen at birth? Or did you get dropped on your head?

**Backspin** · 28-08-2020, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Was it a lack of oxygen at birth? Or did you get dropped on your head?

Is there something wrong ? If the west fucking roasts Russia 24/7 why shouldnt Russia roast the west ? Oh. I see. Russia is evil. And the west is good. Therefore the west speaks truth and Russia speaks lies.

Glad you cleared that up for me.

**harrybarracuda** · 28-08-2020, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

Is there something wrong ? If the west fucking roasts Russia 24/7 why shouldnt Russia roast the west ? Oh. I see. Russia is evil. And the west is good. Therefore the west speaks truth and Russia speaks lies.

Glad you cleared that up for me.

Yes, reporting that Vlad has tried to kill yet another critic using poison again is not reporting the news, it's just those nasty Western news reporters being mean.

**hallelujah** · 28-08-2020, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

Exactly. And they do this because that's what the west does to Russia

Except it doesn't. There are plenty of alternative viewpoints shown in the west; John Pilger is a prominent critic of the UK/USA who has often been shown in the UK and I enjoy his reports and reserve the right to make my own judgement based on this and the other pieces I watch. However, you will never see anything on RT being critical of Putin or Russia.

Is this so difficult for you to understand, you fucking spastic?

**hallelujah** · 28-08-2020, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by hallelujah

Except it doesn't. There are plenty of alternative viewpoints shown in the west; John Pilger is a prominent critic of the UK/USA who has often been shown in the UK and I enjoy his reports and reserve the right to make my own judgement based on this and the other pieces I watch. However, you will never see anything on RT being critical of Putin or Russia.

Is this so difficult for you to understand, you fucking spastic?

Just to add that Pilger mostly lives in the UK...without any fear of a cup of cyanide with his morning toast.

**Backspin** · 28-08-2020, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by hallelujah

Just to add that Pilger mostly lives in the UK...without any fear of a cup of cyanide with his morning toast.

Lol.

**hallelujah** · 28-08-2020, 01:54 AM

Lol!

Eek!

ROTFL!

And to prove my point, just look how "dead" Julian Assange is, you fucking spastic.

**Backspin** · 28-08-2020, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by hallelujah

Lol!

Eek!

ROTFL!

And to prove my point, just look how "dead" Julian Assange is, you fucking spastic.

Neither is Sergey Skripal you quif sniffer.

**hallelujah** · 28-08-2020, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

Neither is Sergey Skripal you quif sniffer.

Is a quif sniffer the same as a normie?

You're a fucking embarrassment to retards. The sooner you're banned, the better, you thick twat.

**OhOh** · 30-08-2020, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by hallelujah

However, you will never see anything on RT being critical of Putin or Russia.

Putin’s approval rating soars as Russia’s Covid lockdowns are slowly lifted, but remains far below dizzying post-Crimea highs

Putin’s approval rating soars as Russia’s Covid lockdowns are slowly lifted, but remains far below dizzying post-Crimea highs — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

**OhOh** · 30-08-2020, 01:59 AM

Trump sets the Israeli cat among Arab pigeons

Posted on August 28, 2020 by M. K. BHADRAKUMAR

"The US President Donald Trump’s legacy in the Middle East is going to be that he scattered the region’s Arab unity once and for all. What the successive waves of Cold War, oil, petrodollar, terrorism, political Islam or the Arab Spring couldn’t achieve, Trump managed in less than 3 years. With the artificial insemination of the Arab womb with the Israeli sperm, he has precipitated a catastrophic miscarriage with fatal consequences. Trump lacks the erudition to comprehend the import of what he has triggered.

Washington, Abu Dhabi and Tel Aviv are struggling to give a decent geopolitical construct to the UAE-Israel ‘peace agreement’. No one can claim that the deal promotes the resolution of the Palestinian problem, which is at the core of the Middle East crisis. The Palestinian nation has condemned the deal as a stab in the back.
The Arab Street is watching with dismay in sullen silence. The three key regional bodies — Organisation of Islamic Conference, Arab League and the Gulf Cooperation Council — have gone into hiding. Even if they mutate and survive, they will be hardly recognisable.

Trump’s agenda is quintessentially Israel’s agenda. Its principal aim is to get for Israel a common regional home. There is a palpable sense of urgency since the US’ capacity to mitigate Israel’s isolation is fast dwindling, while new players have appeared on the scene — regional and extra-regional — who are in no mood to take command from Washington.

The US’ plight in the emerging Middle East is no different from Israel’s. Both enjoy unmatchable military superiority in the region, but their formidable prowess is fast becoming irrelevant. The incipient signs first appeared during the 2006 Israeli invasion of Lebanon and the phenomenon has since appeared across the region. Equally, the US has irretrievably lost its credentials as a mediator. Its attempts to pacify Saudi Arabia, UAE and Qatar failed abysmally.

No one is listening to Washington nowadays. Trump called on Saudi Arabia to step forward and recognise Israel, emulating the Emiratis. Pat came the reply from Prince Turki Al-Faisal — ‘Not until Palestinian refugees return to their homeland.’ The US claimed that Bahrain and Oman are raring to go to recognise Israel. But the US secretary of state Mike Pompeo has had to fly down to Manama to remind the sheikh.

And the jury is still out! The sheikhs are acutely conscious of the seething rage in the Arab street over the betrayal of Palestine by the Emiratis. Ironically, the sheikhs have no qualms about dealing with Israel. The problem is about admitting it.
The Israeli narrative is that a new Middle East realignment is under way — ‘potentially including Egypt, Greece, Cyprus, Israel, the UAE, Bahrain, Oman and eventually Saudi Arabia,’ which will face a ‘very real, opposing coalition, comprising Iran, Turkey, Qatar, and Iranian proxies in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza and Yemen, with Jordan and Kuwait for the time being maintaining an uneasy neutral position.’

But all that remains a typical Israeli bravado. No one can coherently explain the raison d’être of such a line-up of regional states in the Eastern Mediterranean and the Middle East. Conceivably, Israel’s hope is that the mantle of leadership of the coalition will fall on it, being the most powerful military power in the pack. But what do the others get out of such an alliance?
Greece and Cyprus are already members of the EU; Greece is also a NATO power. Egypt and the UAE are helping the Assad regime in Syria (which Israel is trying to overthrow.) Why should Israel’s coalition partners share the burden of its hostilities with Iran, Turkey, Qatar, Syria, Lebanon, Hezbollah, Hamas, Fatah, et al?

Again, while Israel’s desire to get embedded in some regional coalition or the other is understandable, Israel must first learn to be a team player. It shuns consensual politics and prefers the John Wayne way. Israel only acts in self-interest and is a hard nut to crack. The US is having a tough time persuading Israel that China doesn’t make a good friend.

Clearly, the Middle East politics is splintering along several fault lines and the UAE-Israel deal accelerates the fragmentation. In the emerging ‘multipolarity’, Israel loses the regional hegemony it used to enjoy.
Hard times lie ahead. As income from oil continues to be grossly insufficient for the petrodollar regimes’ economic well-being and for their rulers to pacify their restive populations, the compact that existed between the rulers and the ruled is going to come under strain. Coronavirus and the deepening economic recession aggravates the breakdown of the political compact.

Turkey’s Erdogan senses this while advancing his project for the democratisation of the repressive Middle Eastern regimes, including Israel. True, an axis is developing between Turkey, Qatar and Iran, which is focused on promoting Islamism as the vehicle of change in the region.
All three countries agree on one point — namely, that political Islam should be the charioteer of change in the Muslim Middle East. Israel can do nothing to stop them or salvage the beleaguered Arab repressive regimes caught in the maelstrom of social and political changes.

All bets are off when — not if — Turkey’s president Recep Erdogan decides that the time has come for his country to resuscitate its nuclear programme. Declassified American archival materials indicate that as far back as 1966, according to reports from US diplomats in Ankara, some Turkish senior officials were interested in a nuclear weapons capability, such as General Refik Tulga who was a participant in the 1960 military coup.

Indeed, Erdogan is on record at least once after coming to power complaining about the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and asking why Turkey did not have nuclear weapons: “This I cannot accept,” he reportedly remarked. And if Turkey proceeds on that path, will the Emiratis and Saudis be far behind?

With the US embargo on arms supplies to Iran expiring on October 4, a new dawn is breaking in regional security. Iran’s Defence Minister Gen. Amir Hatami who is on a visit to Moscow has held discussions with his Russian host Sergei Shoigu. Gen. Hatami has reportedly shown interest in advanced Russian weaponry including S-400 Triumf air defence system, Pantsir S1E combined medium-range surface-to-air missile system, Kamov KA-226T utility helicopter, Sukhoi Su-30 fighter and so on.

The region understands the profound implications of the humiliating defeat that the Trump administration has suffered this week at the UN Security Council on its attempt, at Israel’s prodding, to invoke the ‘snapback’ sanctions against Iran. The regional security scenario is changing dramatically.

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia is quietly developing a nuclear programme; the Emiratis just commissioned a nuclear power plant and are insisting that their pilots shall fly nothing less than F-35 stealth fighter jets. Reports suggest that Israel feels flustered already.

But the Emirati sheikhs and the House of Saud are not going to be content to remain as Israel’s B Team. They are used to own the best that money can buy. In a very near future, conceivably, Israel will be hard-pressed to explain to them why nuclear weapons, F-35 jets or the Iron Dome should remain its sole prerogative in the Middle East. "

https://indianpunchline.com/trump-se...-arab-pigeons/

**harrybarracuda** · 30-08-2020, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Putin’s approval rating soars as Russia’s Covid lockdowns are slowly lifted, but remains far below dizzying post-Crimea highs

Putin’s approval rating soars as Russia’s Covid lockdowns are slowly lifted, but remains far below dizzying post-Crimea highs — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

That's quite interesting.

"We made up a different number for this story compared to the last one".

**hallelujah** · 30-08-2020, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

PutinÂ’s approval rating soars as RussiaÂ’s Covid lockdowns are slowly lifted, but remains far below dizzying post-Crimea highs

PutinÂ’s approval rating soars as RussiaÂ’s Covid lockdowns are slowly lifted, but remains far below dizzying post-Crimea highs Â— RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

"Putin is still wonderful but not quite as mega wonderful as he used to be...yet."

Are you trying to claim this counts as "criticism" from RT?

Wow. You're even more brainwashed and stupid than I first thought; it's truly amazing to think that people like you exist. Wow.

**panama hat** · 30-08-2020, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by hallelujah

"Putin is still wonderful but not quite as mega wonderful as he used to be...yet."

Are you trying to claim this counts as "criticism" from RT?

Wow. You're even more brainwashed and stupid than I first thought; it's truly amazing to think that people like you exist. Wow.

. Fuck me dead, he is a moron.

**hallelujah** · 30-08-2020, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

. Fuck me dead, he is a moron.

This scale of stupidity and indoctrination has to be seen to be believed.

It actually DOES exist although it is beyond comprehension for most of us.

Just wow. That's all you can say.

**Backspin** · 30-08-2020, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by hallelujah

"Putin is still wonderful but not quite as mega wonderful as he used to be...yet."

Are you trying to claim this counts as "criticism" from RT?

Wow. You're even more brainwashed and stupid than I first thought; it's truly amazing to think that people like you exist. Wow.

See ? These retard cases really believe that Russia is north Korea just because the US State dept says so. They don't think that Putin has any legitimacy within the country

They literally laugh at the idea of a Putin approval rating. They really think it's a different world over there and regular people aren't just going about their day like we do.

**panama hat** · 30-08-2020, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

They really think it's a different world over there

It is.

Originally Posted by Backspin

and regular people aren't just going about their day like we do.

Again, you come to a conclusion which is based on nothing except your own imagination.

If you don't think Russia is different then I suggest you spend some time there

**Backspin** · 30-08-2020, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

It is.

Again, you come to a conclusion which is based on nothing except your own imagination.

If you don't think Russia is different then I suggest you spend some time there

No. It's not. Regular people in Russia are not effected by federal politics nor have federal politics on their mind anymore than Western civilians do.

**panama hat** · 30-08-2020, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

No. It's not. Regular people in Russia are not effected by federal politics nor have federal politics on their mind anymore than Western civilians do.

What?

**harrybarracuda** · 30-08-2020, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Backspin

They literally laugh at the idea of a Putin approval rating.

No, they laugh at "Russia Today" giving his approval rating when he controls it.

How long was it before they were able to restore your breathing?

**hallelujah** · 30-08-2020, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Backspin

See ? These retard cases really believe that Russia is north Korea just because the US State dept says so. They don't think that Putin has any legitimacy within the country

They literally laugh at the idea of a Putin approval rating. They really think it's a different world over there and regular people aren't just going about their day like we do.

Being called a retard off Backspin.

**Klondyke** · 30-08-2020, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Backspin

See ? These retard cases really believe that Russia is north Korea just because the US State dept says so. They don't think that Putin has any legitimacy within the country.

They literally laugh at the idea of a Putin approval rating. They really think it's a different world over there and regular people aren't just going about their day like we do.

Originally Posted by panama hat

It is.

Originally Posted by panama hat

What?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No, they laugh at "Russia Today" giving his approval rating when he controls it.

How long was it before they were able to restore your breathing?

Originally Posted by hallelujah

Being called a retard off Backspin.
This scale of stupidity and indoctrination has to be seen to be believed.

How assuring and comforting to have here discussants with such matter-of-fact arguments?

**Backspin** · 30-08-2020, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No, they laugh at "Russia Today" giving his approval rating when he controls it.

How long was it before they were able to restore your breathing?

No he doesn't. Ipsos Ried does polling inside Russia and they get the same numbers. Moron.

Putin has only been the president of Russia for 2 years longer than Merkel has been the Chansellor of Germany.

Putin 2000-2008. Then Dmitri Medvedev from 2008-2012. Then Putin from 2013 to today.

But you don't even know that Dmitri Medvedev was the president of Russia for those years. Because the US media says Putins been the president for 20+ years.

But but Medvedev was just a placeholder you'll say. Yeah ? Does that mean Karl Rove or Dick Cheney was the president in the Bush years ? Because Bush was just a placeholder for them ?

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