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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Do you understand the meaning of the phrase "State Controlled Media"?

    No. Because you're a fucking retard.
    It's not state controlled media. Its parent company is publicly traded and the Russian govt is majority shareholder. They have no editorial control. RT is the most popular TV network
    on the Internet.

    Plus I am not some Ann Rand libertarian like you are apparently. I think each respective state should have its own media. Government and state are a reality of our world. Does every state have to hand its media to Rupert Murdoch to have legitimacy ? That's insane


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    It's not state controlled media. Its parent company is publicly traded and the Russian govt is majority shareholder. They have no editorial control. RT is the most popular TV network on the Internet.
    Klondyke, move over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    It's not state controlled media. Its parent company is publicly traded and the Russian govt is majority shareholder.
    So therefore state controlled. Pretty simple. Are a you bit retarded or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Klondyke, move over.
    Quite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Does every state have to hand its media to Rupert Murdoch to have legitimacy ?
    Governments don't, or shouldn't, 'have' media to 'hand' to anyone. Media should be completely separate from government and be able to hold government accountable on behalf of the people. If the government owns and controls the media where do you think that leads? The murdoch situation is unfortunate but fortunately there are alternative and balancing voices. (In the west)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    So therefore state controlled. Pretty simple. Are a you bit retarded or something?
    No different than BBC or CBC. CNN tows the line of the US state department , hook , line and sinker. You know this right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Governments don't, or shouldn't, 'have' media to 'hand' to anyone. Media should be completely separate from government and be able to hold government accountable on behalf of the people. If the government owns and controls the media alonswhere do you think that leads? The murdoch situation is unfortunate but fortunately there are alternative and balancing voices. (In the west)
    Lol fuck off Ann Rand. That's actually a retail conservative trope too. Shut down the BBC! They say. No. There should be a sober and socially conservative state media alongside the corporate free for all oligarchy media

    But yes. I used to believe this nonsense too. Until I questioned my American brainwashing
    Last edited by Backspin; 25-08-2020 at 10:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Do you understand the meaning of the phrase "State Controlled Media"?
    Harry's favorite but back-numbered record player. Didn't you forget to prepend one word "deep"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Until I questioned my American brainwashing
    And what did you come up with? Nothing much apparently.
    Having a BBC or an ABC (australia) Isn't a bad thing in a democratic country provided there are commercial private alternatives. Remember these government media outlets are nominally politically neutral in a democracy. (Not in the USSR or China of course where there is only one way.
    Socal still thinks everything in the west is run by some shadowy cabal, and I'm sure the power players, (Rothschilds etc old money political families) exert much influence but it's not some behind the scenes bureaucrats as our latest recruit to the hall of fame tin foil hatters would believe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    No different than BBC or CBC. CNN tows the line of the US state department , hook , line and sinker. You know this right
    You do not understand State Controlled Media you fucking moron.

    Here's another simple Backspin-style explanation.

    BBC: "Government bad".
    Government: "Grumble Grumble"

    RT: "Government bad"
    Government (i.e. Putin): "Drink this".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Socal still thinks
    That's a bit of a fucking stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    So therefore state controlled. Pretty simple. Are a you bit retarded or something?
    And I don't know where he gets this shit about it being "publicly traded".

    It's Putin-owned, Putin-funded, and Putin-controlled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You do not understand State Controlled Media you fucking moron.

    Here's another simple Backspin-style explanation.

    BBC: "Government bad".
    Government: "Grumble Grumble"

    RT: "Government bad"
    Government (i.e. Putin): "Drink this".
    No you donkeys balls. I am no longer an anti govt dogmatist. There should be state media like the BBC. Conservatives shouldnt defund BBC. They should take it over.

    BTW Russia has its BBC internally. But there's also corporate and private TV. The Economist (an Anglo American empire rag) has a Russian language TV channel in Russia.

    China on the other hand , has purely state media.

    But none of you sick cvnts give Russia any more credit for being much more like us than China is

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And I don't know where he gets this shit about it being "publicly traded".

    It's Putin-owned, Putin-funded, and Putin-controlled.
    RT isn't even an internal Ruesian TV channel. It is to promote Russia's viewpoint abroad. Its the most popular TV network on the Internet. It just collaborates with dissident and counter narrative groups within the west. It is not controlled by Putin. It is controlled by like minded people with a mission

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    RT isn't even an internal Ruesian TV channel. It is to promote Russia's viewpoint abroad. Its the most popular TV network on the Internet.
    Where do you get this shit?

    RT?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Governments don't, or shouldn't, 'have' media to 'hand' to anyone. Media should be completely separate from government and be able to hold government accountable on behalf of the people. If the government owns and controls the media where do you think that leads?
    We have "taxpayer/government owned massmedia, and they are the most trusted media here.

    If you prefer corporate massmedia, then up to you.

    Just don't go out of your way to quote them, for my sake.

    Corporate media are in the business for a reason, and it ain't just the money.


    Your logic doesn't do it for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    RT isn't even an internal Ruesian TV channel. It is to promote Russia's viewpoint abroad. Its the most popular TV network on the Internet.
    Actually, it does not much promote the "Russia's viewpoint abroad". It's very unbiased when e.g. listening to their program "Going Underground" where personalities from different world (many of UK's MPs) get a chance to speak and answer questions without being shown an agreement or a disagreement.

    Do we have a chance to listen to views of e.g John Pilger, Roger Waters (Pink Floyd co-founder), Oliver Stone, Werner Herzog (German film director), old lady Dr. Jane Goodall, to name just few?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Actually, it does not much promote the "Russia's viewpoint abroad". It's very unbiased when e.g. listening to their program "Going Underground" where personalities from different world (many of UK's MPs) get a chance to speak and answer questions without being shown an agreement or a disagreement.

    Do we have a chance to listen to views of e.g John Pilger, Roger Waters (Pink Floyd co-founder), Oliver Stone, Werner Herzog (German film director), old lady Dr. Jane Goodall, to name just few?
    Yeah. The regional RT stations like RT America or RT UK , promote mostly internal alternative voices and viewpoints. But the mothership , RT International , promotes Russia's viewpoint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Yeah. The regional RT stations like RT America or RT UK , promote mostly internal alternative voices and viewpoints. But the mothership , RT International , promotes Russia's viewpoint
    You really are a dopey c u n t, and it's quite obvious you've never watched it.

    RT Africa is currently slagging off America for censorship.

    RT UK is slagging off America for opiates.

    RT America is talking about..... go on, have a guess.

    You are a simpleton who makes shit up.

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    Now RT UK is listening to some weird old Slovenian fucker banging on about class divides in Europe.

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    Fucking hell he's ranting on about how Australia and New Zealand are going to create bubbles like they had in Logan's Run.




    They should change it from RT to ST.

    "Shitstirring Today" would be a much more appropriate name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You really are a dopey c u n t, and it's quite obvious you've never watched it.

    RT Africa is currently slagging off America for censorship.

    RT UK is slagging off America for opiates.

    RT America is talking about..... go on, have a guess.

    You are a simpleton who makes shit up.
    You stupid fucker. Obviously they slag on all and sundry. But they give a Max Keiser in the UK or Peter Schiff in the US a voice when discussing these issues.

    All the RT shows ALL of them , are available as an audio podcast and I'm subscribed. You fucking silly duffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Now RT UK is listening to some weird old Slovenian fucker banging on about class divides in Europe.
    Probably Slavoj Žižek. Youve never heard of him ? Glad RT is expanding your horizons

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    RT is hilarious. They gave employees a chocolate Salisbury church for a Christmas gift lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Probably Slavoj Žižek. Youve never heard of him ? Glad RT is expanding your horizons
    No, it's showing me that RT will give voice to every lunatic out there if they're having a pop at the West, you fucking moron.

    THAT is what it's there for.

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