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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    ^Wondering why the richest country that exports democracy to the whole world (beside many commodities) cannot help itself .....
    It’s a fair question.
    Given that the USA is so big and powerful why is it that basic healthcare equipment has been so hard to find ?
    Obviously there’s been great changes in American manufacturing but the distinct lack of leadership has been significant.

    The USA of the fifties is long gone.
    Now China appears to be the nation bursting with vitality and America looks like a cripple after a Great Leap Backward.
    That Chinese vitality of course is a fascist vitality in the making.
    But aren’t the uniforms lovely ! Ollie North must be jealous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmartin View Post
    America looks like a cripple after a Great Leap Backward.
    Not completely, the 0.001% have reaped 1,000,000,000s of green pieces of paper from their patron, goldilocks and his thee bankers in the last few moths. Courtesy of the starving 1,000,000s of it's citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Oh, you mean the same place the virus originated. This one. And the one before etc... ad infinitum. China should supply them FoC to the world
    Fat chance, exploitation is their unofficial national motto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Fat chance, exploitation is their unofficial national motto.
    Quote Originally Posted by docmartin View Post
    Given that the USA is so big and powerful why is it that basic healthcare equipment has been so hard to find ?

    Now China appears to be the nation bursting with vitality and America looks like a cripple after a Great Leap Backward.
    A looming question quite difficult for anybody to answer - unless it's somebody like 'arry and his disciples repeating their nonsenses ad nausea enhanced by their "polite" adjectives thrown on posters.

    All those healthcare problems are in close conjunction with the enormous poverty and social uncertainty of a large portion of population that nobody dares to address. So better to highlight the problems at others and blame them for any own shortcoming.

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    Ambassador: Bilateral ties in need of 'reset'

    "Cui cites George Washington's words to 'cultivate peace and harmony with all'
    The China-US relationship can only have a bright future if it is built on dialogue and cooperation, and the two countries should be partners, not imaginary enemies, Beijing's top envoy in Washington said on Thursday.

    "If there is a side to choose, then all countries, China and the United States included, should choose the right side of history," wrote Chinese Ambassador Cui Tiankai in an op-ed piece for politico.com.

    This will require countries to improve their own domestic governance while working "outside their borders to build a world with lasting peace, common security and shared prosperity", as the world needs "strong solidarity, not growing division", Cui said.

    The piece follows growing escalation in the already tumultuous bilateral relationship, in which the US State Department's abrupt order on July 21 to shut the Chinese consulate in Houston, Texas, prompted Beijing to order the shuttering of the US consulate in Chengdu, Sichuan province, on Monday.
    In the article, titled "China and the US Should Reset Their Relationship", Cui highlighted the positive history between the two countries.

    It was at a Texas rodeo in Simonton, near Houston, in 1979, soon after the two countries established diplomatic relations, that Deng Xiaoping, then vice-premier of China, was pictured donning a cowboy hat, which soon become a lasting symbol of friendly Sino-US ties.

    It was during that visit that the two countries signed an agreement to open consulates in each other's countries, Cui wrote. Houston was where China set up its first consulate in the US to serve a consular district that covered eight states in the South and Puerto Rico.
    Cui cited a Houston Chronicle editorial stating that China is the region's second-largest trading partner. According to the statistics from the consulate, trade in that part of the US reached $125.1 billion in 2018, and nearly 300 China-invested companies had established their presence there by 2019, with a combined investment topping $23.2 billion.

    Half a world away, Chinese basketball fans regard the NBA's Houston Rockets almost as their home team because of towering center Yao Ming, and steaks from Texas have become favorites on tables in many Chinese households, Cui added.
    "These benefits wouldn't have been possible without the atmosphere of amity and cooperation the consulate-general helped to foster,"Cui wrote.
    The shutting of the Houston consulate was an "unusual break in international diplomacy", he added.

    In an interview with China Daily last week, veteran US diplomat Charles Freeman Jr, who was an interpreter for president Richard Nixon during his 1972 China visit, also said the consulate closure was "very unwelcome to people in Texas who have become accustomed to the consulate, valued its presence and I think could be very sorry to see it go".

    Cui wrote that from a broader perspective, it is only one in a series of moves to demonize China and ramp up ideological confrontation.
    "However, no sensible foreign policy is based on ignorance, arrogance or shortsightedness, let alone hatred," he added.

    In the article, the ambassador also revisited the historic visit by Nixon, who said,"It is not our common beliefs that have brought us together here, but our common interests and our common hopes ...the hope that each of us has to build a new world order in which nations of people with different systems and different values can live together in peace, respecting one another while disagreeing with one another."

    The central premise of Nixon's approach to China was that, notwithstanding profound differences in political values and political systems, Washington and Beijing could nonetheless work together in ways that benefited both countries and the world, said David Firestein, president and CEO at the George H.W. Bush Foundation for US-China Relations in Houston.

    Cui said China's US policy remains unchanged. "We are still willing to grow China-US relations with goodwill and sincerity and hope the US will return to the right track," he wrote.
    The ambassador also said the attempts by some US policymakers to "drive a wedge between the Chinese people and the Communist Party of China" are doomed to fail.
    "The CPC, whose philosophy is to place the people's interests and trust above all else, has drawn strength from the 5,000-year Chinese civilization, and has found a path of development best suited to China," he wrote.

    A recent report by Harvard's Ash Center for Democratic Governance and Innovation, found that citizen satisfaction with China's government has increased virtually across the board, with the central authorities receiving the strongest level of approval, ranging from 86 percent to 93 percent, between 2003 and 2016.

    During his visit to China, Nixon quoted president George Washington at a banquet:"Observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace and harmony with all."

    His words are still resoundingly true, Cui concluded."

    Ambassador: Bilateral ties in need of 'reset' - World - Chinadaily.com.cn
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    "If there is a side to choose, then all countries, China and the United States included, should choose the right side of history," wrote Chinese Ambassador Cui Tiankai in an op-ed piece for politico.com.
    The right side being the murder of close to 100 million of your own people? Sure . . .

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    Thai army suspends U.S. training plans after soldiers contract COVID-19




    August 2, 2020

    "BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand has suspended plans for its army to undertake joint training with the U.S. military after nine Thai soldiers tested positive for coronavirus upon returning from Hawaii, the defence ministry said on Sunday.

    The Thai Army said the infected soldiers were among 151 Thai officers who had returned from Lightning Forge 2020 training with U.S. soldiers in Hawaii for the first three weeks of July.

    “The army has suspended all plans to bring forces abroad until the situation improves,” said defence ministry spokesman Kongcheep Tantawanich. Thailand had no plans for joint training with other countries but the United States, he said.

    Nattapon Srisawat, the head of the Thai Army’s anti-Covid-19 unit, told Reuters the army had to exercise caution. “It will be difficult to travel at the moment as we have to be careful,” he said.

    Thailand has reported 3,317 cases and 58 deaths. Recent infections were imported from abroad, marking 69 successive days without of any domestic transmission."

    Thai army suspends U.S. training plans after soldiers contract COVID-19 - Reuters








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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Thai army suspends U.S. training plans after soldiers contract COVID-19
    Again, what does that have to do with Eurasia? Are you really too thick to place threads into the correct topic? In this case either US or Thailand News. Easy, really.

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    OhOH: please do not forget to ask our expert on thread purity (and on everything either anyway) before you place a comment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    A looming question quite difficult for anybody to answer - unless it's somebody like 'arry and his disciples repeating their nonsenses ad nausea enhanced by their "polite" adjectives thrown on posters.

    All those healthcare problems are in close conjunction with the enormous poverty and social uncertainty of a large portion of population that nobody dares to address.
    So better to highlight the problems at others and blame them for any own shortcoming.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    OhOH: please
    That is so adorable . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    That is so adorable . . .
    It's the forum equivalent of rimming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Again, what does that have to do with Eurasia?
    Hint:

    Thai Army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Again, what does that have to do with Eurasia?
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Hint:

    Thai Army.
    Awwww . . . that's Asia, more specifically Thailand which has several forum areas all to itself.

    Bless . . .



    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    OhOH: please

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    ^How happy the TD owners are... If do not have an OhOh and Klondyke, what would be the number of PH's clicks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    ^How happy the TD owners are... If do not have an OhOh and Klondyke, what would be the number of PH's clicks?

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    We are all brothers in the mission to eliminate poverty

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    "A daylily plantation in Yunzhou district is seen in Datong, Shanxi province, on July 12. Daylily plantations have become a major industry boosting poverty alleviation efforts and are a major profit-making business for farmers. [Photo provided to China Daily] Editor's Note: China is set to realize its target of eliminating absolute poverty by the end of this year. What are the factors behind China's imminent success? In the seventh of a series of commentaries, a senior journalist of China Daily tries to find the answers:

    Good policies and strategies are important to the anti-poverty campaign, but more important is the devotion of thousands of officials and professionals who have worked to make the poverty-elimination drive successful.

    Since 2012, when the central government decided to end absolute poverty by the end of 2020, nearly 3 million officials and professionals of different ranks from the central, provincial and city governments have been sent to rural areas on a two-year basis to help end poverty. At present, about 1 million such officials are working shoulder to shoulder with villagers in impoverished rural areas.

    These officials and professionals stay in the poor, remote villages far removed from their loved ones and their relatively comfortable lives in cities. But most of them volunteered for the job, because they wanted to be part of the historic mission of ending poverty in China.

    Many have even lost their lives. Official data show more than 770 such officials died in floods, landslides, or due to diseases or overwork.

    Huang Wenxiu, a postgraduate degree holder from Beijing Normal University, died in a flood while driving back to her village in Baise, Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region, last June. For one year before her death, she had been working as the first Party secretary of the village during which she drew up a plan to help the villagers emerge out of poverty and sought the help of officials and experts to implement it.

    In that one year, she drove 12,500 kilometers-the length of the Long March-on the mountainous roads to make her plan successful. But unlike the Red Army that eventually reached its destination in Yan'an, Shaanxi province, Huang died before her village was declared poverty-free.

    Li Baoguo, too, did not live to see his dream fulfilled. A professor at Hebei Agriculture University, Li worked for 34 years to lift the villagers in the Taihang Mountain areas out of poverty. He spent more than 200 days in a year in the mountainous areas of Hebei province helping poor villagers to plant fruit trees which, after they grew, earned the villagers handsome incomes. Thanks to his efforts, more than 100,000 farmers have emerged out of poverty.

    In 2016, on getting the news of Li's death, about 10,000 farmers who benefitted from Li's contribution attended his funeral.
    Huang and Li are just two of the about 3 million officials and professionals who have worked to lift villagers out of poverty. And each of them has his/her story to tell.

    As for China Daily, it has sent five of its staff members to work for the poverty-elimination campaign since 2012-with three working as deputy directors of poor counties and two as first Party secretary of poor villages. The deputy directors' main job is to coordinate China Daily's poverty-alleviation work with those of the counties while also inviting donations and investments from outside.

    The first Party secretary's work is more complicated. In China, every village has a Party branch which is the top administrative body of the village. Under special arrangement, the "external" first Party secretary has to work with the formally appointed Party secretary for the welfare of the village, especially to eliminate poverty.

    Volunteers need a bachelor's or a postgraduate degree and a few years' experience of working in a government organization to become a first Party secretary. About 20,000 of such first Party secretaries are working in China's poor villages today.

    China Daily's two first Party secretaries have fulfilled their tasks. By making good use of government and special poverty-alleviation funds, and attracting donations from China Daily and other sources, they have helped the poor families to build new houses and improve their living standards.

    I visited one such village and was impressed by the paved roads with solar-powered lights, a new three-story school building, greenhouses growing mini-pumpkins, and lotus ponds. And although all the residents of the two villages have been lifted out of poverty, China Daily's two first Party secretaries are still working there, as required by the central government, to make sure no family slips back into poverty.
    "Hello, brother, have you eaten your lunch?" a villager we met on the way asked the first Party secretary.

    Yes, we are all brothers in the drive to eliminate poverty.

    We are all brothers in the mission to eliminate poverty - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Good policies and strategies are important to the anti-poverty campaign, but more important is the devotion of thousands of officials and professionals who have worked to make the poverty-elimination drive successful.
    Interesting when China is the world's largest polluter

    1. China (30%)

    The world’s most populated country has an enormous export market, which has seen its industry grow to become a serious danger to the planet. In just five provinces, which that host most of these industries ,more dioxide is emitted than in any other country in the world. As a consequence, Beijing has experienced, in recent years, constant red alerts for environmental pollution.
    When my brother and sister were posted to Beijing they worked a four-day week and had to leave China every Thursday and return either Sunday night or Monday morning because of the deadly pollution.

    But hey . . . you should be happy: China No. 1

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    I wonder how rich all those uighurs and the other political prisoners are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Interesting when China is the world's largest polluter
    Interestingly you leave off the link to your allegation, along with date of publication and period under discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    But hey . . . you should be happy:
    Possibly to some who follow your biased postings.

    However, here is one example that, sets your allegation in context, dated and linked:

    Who has contributed most to global CO2 emissions?

    by Hannah Ritchie

    October 01, 2019

    "Our World in Data presents the empirical evidence on global development in entries dedicated to specific topics.
    This blog post draws on data and research discussed in our entry on CO2 and Greenhouse Gas Emissions.

    Since 1751 the world has emitted over 1.5 trillion tonnes of CO2.1 To reach our climate goal of limiting average temperature rise to 2C, the world needs to urgently reduce emissions. One common argument is that those countries which have added most to the CO2 in our atmosphere – contributing most to the problem today – should take on the greatest responsibility in tackling it.
    We can compare each country’s total contribution to global emissions by looking at cumulative CO2. We can calculate cumulative emissions by adding up each country’s annual CO2 emissions over time. We did this calculation for each country and region over the period from 1751 through to 2017.2

    "There are some key points we can learn from this perspective:


    • the United States has emitted more CO2 than any other country to date: at around 400 billion tonnes since 1751, it is responsible for 25% of historical emissions;
    • this is twice more than China – the world’s second largest national contributor;
    • the 28 countries of the European Union (EU-28) – which are grouped together here as they typically negotiate and set targets on a collaborative basis – is also a large historical contributor at 22%;
    • many of the large annual emitters today – such as India and Brazil – are not large contributors in a historical context;
    • Africa’s regional contribution – relative to its population size – has been very small. This is the result of very low per capita emissions – both historically and currently."


    https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-co2

    One may argue that prior to 1751 China, since it has been around some 2,000 or so years, must have been producing CO2 then, so an estimated figure must be added.

    On the other hand ameristan, even if only populated by natives during that time, had herds of CO2 producing buffaloes, and a some estimated figure should be allocated to ameristan.

    Some more links reinforcing ameristans role as the most polluting country and has failed to decrease it's footprint even when offered an opportunity based on world opinion, to do so.

    The U.S. Is the Biggest Carbon Polluter in History. It Just Walked Away From the Paris Climate Deal.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mate-deal.html

    List of countries by carbon dioxide emissions

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    When my brother and sister were posted to Beijing
    Presumably prior to accepting the "posting" they investigated the "conditions" at the location and decide even with the risks, "it was worth it"?

    Or was their offer reinforced with threats of violence or unemployment?

    Who was responsible?

    This guy?

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    One of these guys?

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    Or his big brother?
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    My brother when visiting me in Canada, decided of his own free will to fly to Toronto. He then had a multi-day ride on a Greyhound Canada bus to Calgary. Did he think the risk was worth it? Not his best choice he admitted.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I wonder how rich all those uighurs and the other political prisoners are
    Depends what your definition of "rich" is.

    Here is one list, which criteria is your definition

    Being alive, healthy, earning a living, living in a country with a history of reducing it's citizen's poverty and offering a future, freedom to choose which "religion" to follow and practice, freedom to choose whether one is forced to obey terrorists or obey laws of the country they are living in ....

    Last edited by OhOh; 12-08-2020 at 06:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Interestingly you leave off the link to your allegation, along with date of publication and period under discussion.
    You may find that 'interesting' because you were raised to be paranoid



    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Depends what your definition of "rich" is.

    Here is one list, which criteria is your definition

    Being alive, healthy, earning a living
    Well, that leaves out China.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Interestingly you leave off the link to your allegation, along with date of publication and period under discussion.
    Interesting that left out all those coal-powered power stations the chinkies keep building so they can sell their coal (or the coal they are stealing in places like Laos with the help of paid-off "leaders").

    Dirty filthy chinkies.

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    Unexpected comments, no.

    I see no comments on my post's linked too, published data.

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    you were raised to be paranoid
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Interesting that left out all those coal-powered power station
    Take the posted data accuracy up with the publisher and it's sources.

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    Last edited by OhOh; 13-08-2020 at 12:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    you were raised to be paranoid
    . . . still applies

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