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Updated: 8:46 p.m. ET Sept. 20, 2007


JENA, La. - Thousands of chanting demonstrators filled the streets of this little Louisiana town Thursday in support of six black teenagers initially charged with attempted murder in the beating of a white classmate.
The crowd broke into chants of “Free the Jena Six” as the Rev. Al Sharpton arrived at the local courthouse with family members of the jailed teens.
Sharpton told the Associated Press that he and Reps. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, and William Jefferson, D-La., will press the House Judiciary Committee next week to summon the district attorney to explain his actions before Congress.

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This could be the beginning of a 21st century’s civil rights movement to challenge disparities in the justice system, Sharpton said, adding that he planned a November march in Washington.
“What we need is federal intervention to protect people from Southern injustice,” Sharpton told the AP. “Our fathers in the 1960’s had to penetrate the Kennedy and Johnson administrations. We have to do the same thing.”
The six black teens were charged a few months after three white teens were accused of hanging nooses in a tree at their high school. The white teens were suspended from school but weren’t prosecuted. Five of the black teens were initially charged with attempted murder. That charge was reduced to battery for all but one, who has yet to be arraigned; the sixth was charged as a juvenile.
The beating victim, Justin Barker, was knocked unconscious, his face badly swollen and bloodied, though he was able to attend a school function later that night

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16885997/


LA. always charges attempted murder first and then reduces it to battery, I know, it happened to me for a bar fight once.

I saw that on telly last night. Seemed an odd case, for sure. Teenagers are pranksters & while I don't agree with the nooses, how they can try & justify what they did because of it is beyond me. It's vigilante justice.

The guy was probably asking for it though.

Assault & battery case, plain and simple.
Attempted murder should be dropped, kids will be found guilty of assault.
Account will be taken of their past records or lack thereof, the aggravated nature of the case (nooses, KKK and all that), and sentenced accordingly.
Unless they are already arch villains, doubt they will cop any jail time.

Storm in a teacup methinks. Given racial sensitivities, not a good idea to have charged attempted murder though- giving the Rev Al a chance to get back on his soapbox.

They alway do that in Lousiana, I was jumped in a bar on Jult 4th back in the mid 70s by a couple of dudes and I did hurt one pretty bad, but they canned my ass for attempted murder, I bailed out and got a good lawyer as was recommended by a county investigator and when we went to court it was dropped to simple battery 250$ fine and away we went.
seems like that is always the case there tho.

But the kids that hung the nooses in the tree were suspended from school, and then later one was beat up, but give J Jackson and Big Al any excuse for the race card and they will take it.

Beats hell out of having to work for a living.

the endemic racism that still exists in many places in the american south is the root cause of this issue.

if the degenerates that hung the nooses were brought up on hate crimes charages (and not simply suspended from school for a few days---which let's be honest, is a reward for most teenagers), then this whole episode could have been avoided.

They hung nooses in a tree Ray Baby, just nooses, wernt no necks in em, so no crime.
If them people wern't so RACIST there never would have been the thought of any racism, I got a rope out back hanging in a tree and I can't see where any hate crime has been commited.

Or if you were not so racist you wouldn't have thought of it either. No one else on here did ..

first of all, i thought you had me on ignore.

secondly, just because you don't understand the hate crimes legislation doesn't mean it shouldn't have been applied in this case.

and finally, you have no credibility on any discussion regarding racism. one only needs to look at your posts in the 'jokes' forum.

just out of curiosity, why do you hate people of color?

I do have you on ignore, but ever so often I look to see what stupid shit you are posting, everyone needs a good laugh ever so often.
sorry I had to go back and bypass ignore to get this

and finally, you have no credibility on any discussion regarding racism. one only needs to look at your posts in the 'jokes' forum.

just out of curiosity, why do you hate people of color?

Now there you go again, I am a fully grown man and of above average intelligence and am not racist or bigoted and I can tell jokes about anyone and I can laugh at jokes about anyone or anything without it bothering me, where narrow minded people of less intelligence can not do that.

see where I am coming from, I put my mind above that racist shit which you are unable to do, you are a closet racist and look for things to make folks think that you are a very advanced person when infact you are very small minded.

see how you said that "PEOPLE of COLOR", you sound just like BIG AL or the REV JESSY J. and now you tell me that them 2 bastards are not RACIST.
You are so racist that you can't even say Negro, or colored, or even BLACK,,

and another reason I post jokes like that, I look for em on the web and post them just to crank you closet racist, small minded bastards up.

and it sure is working, when you have grown up you will be able to see beyond the color of someone and not worry about the nickle-dime shit and then you will be free to enjoy some of the things that the more mentally advanced enjoy.
Until you have, better stick with slinging mud and denigrating innocent people and smearing all that slander shit.
You are the same class person as your buddy ANT, why worry if I have you on ignore or not, seems to worry you 2 narrow minded bastards, but I want you to know if I do not answer you when you think I should, the reason is that I do not read every foolish word that you say.

Originally Posted by blackgang

and another reason I post jokes like that, I look for em on the web and post them just to crank you closet racist, small minded bastards up.

Hm, interesting.
Have you ever thought about how this makes you look here?

Originally Posted by blackgang

I am a fully grown man and of above average intelligence

we clearly have a different understanding of what the 'average' is.



just out of curiosity, how much time do you spend looking for racist jokes and cartoons on the internet?

Originally Posted by stroller

Hm, interesting. Have you ever thought about how this makes you look here?

No stroller I don't and I don't worry about it, there is enough folks with some sense that know what is what and do not worry about it either, only small minded people think like that or worry about it.
and far be it from me to try to change what some folks think.
A truly racist person sees racism in a lot of things where none exists, but they see it because down deep they are racist, know it or not, Just as in a joke, they can not laugh and enjoy anything because they are to PC, they are racist, and the broad minded see things as they are without seeing racist shit.
That is pobly because they have to be PC, and thats the thing that is fucking things up, they are racist so they do not want to see anything where they can see racism or it blows their mind and unknown to them, they have to call it out so others will see what they have seen and maybe get some backing and a few attaboys.

IMHO

I have lived with Blacks, worked Blacks and worked with Blacks, mind you, not the Racist Blacks, there are those kinds too but we never associated with them, My good friend I sailed with for years told the Black Panthers "I could never be one of Y'all, you hate whites, and you would expect me to hate whites, I can not do that, My Grandma was white, so fuck off" I lived with Rocky and Zee when ever I was working in their area after I quit the sea, their kids called me Uncle.
so see some of y'all is thinking kinda fucked up. But think what you want, none of my never mind.

Originally Posted by blackgang

A truly racist person sees racism in a lot of things where none exists

That's anti-racism, and yes, one can become a bit too sensitive for this, but for your comments it's glaringly obvious where you are coming from, whether you worked with blacks or not.
If this whole charade has been a troll, then a very successful one.

Let's get the chain of events straight:

Racial tensions had been running high at the school after three nooses were found hanging from a tree in the school yard, the day after a black pupil had sat in its shade.

The three white pupils responsible for that act were not disciplined, and that was at the heart of what the protest in Jena was all about.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7005866.stm

This whole thing was started by teenagers, and now it's being fanned by racism, stereotypes and manipulated by politics from both sides: state (white) prosecutors on one side, the local community and Sharpton on the other. Both have tawdry reputations.

Apparently a black kid sat under a tree traditionally reserved for whites, probably on purpose, resulting in the nooses. When this was punished, the blacks returned and beat up the white kid, probably after an argument, leading to the mass-arrest and the protests. The white state prosecutor initially filed the excessively harsh charges, which have been reduced. He is also on record verbally threatening the defendants, not very wise. More recently, bail has been denied one teenager and nooses were dangled from a pick-up truck in front of protestors waiting at a bus stop, for which two further arrests (of white teenagers) was made:

ALEXANDRIA, Louisiana (CNN) -- A Louisiana city that hosted many of the "Jena 6" protesters Thursday became the site of a racially charged incident of its own.

A photo taken by I-Reporter Casanova Love
shows a noose hanging from a pickup in Alexandria, Louisiana.

more photos &#187;

Authorities in Alexandria, less than 40 miles southwest of Jena, arrested two people who were driving a red pickup Thursday night with two nooses hanging off the back, repeatedly passing groups of demonstrators who were waiting for buses back to their home states.

The marchers had taken part in the huge protests in Jena that accused authorities there of injustice in the handling of racially charged cases -- including the hanging of nooses in a tree after a group of black students sat in an area where traditionally only white students sat.

The driver of the red truck, whom Alexandria police identified as Jeremiah Munsen, 18, was charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor -- a reference to the 16-year-old passenger. Munsen also was charged with driving while intoxicated and inciting to riot, according to the police report.

As officials were questioning the driver, he said he had an unloaded rifle in the back of the truck, which police found. They also found a set of brass knuckles in a cup holder on the dashboard, the police report said.

Here's an interesting op-ed piece:

The man who prosecuted three members of the Duke University lacrosse team on charges that they raped a stripper at a party was disbarred for prosecutorial misconduct and had to serve a day in jail for contempt of court. Relying on testimony, later recanted, from the stripper herself, North Carolina prosecutor Mike Nifong withheld exculpatory evidence from the defendants, an act of professional misconduct that cost him his license to practice law.

The man who is prosecuting six high school students in Jena, Louisiana, on charges of attempted murder appeared before reporters yesterday to justify his prosecution, which arose out of a schoolyard fight. The conviction of one of the students (the others haven't been tried yet) was overturned on appeal earlier this week because the prosecutor illegally tried the defendant, a juvenile, as an adult. The kid remains in jail, as crowds of protesters descend today on the town of 8,000 in protest.

The Jena fight was the culmination of a year of racial tension at the school, touched off when black students insisted on sitting under a tree on school grounds that was reserved for whites. Reed Walter, the Louisiana prosecutor, showed up at the school with armed police during the height of the tensions and announced to the black students present that he could "make your lives disappear" with the stroke of a pen. Nobody is recommending his disbarment.

The legal distinction between the two cases seems to be that the complaining witness in the North Carolina case was a black kid and the defendants were white, while in the Louisiana case, the complaining witness is a white kid, and the defendants are all black.

Prosecutorial excess against whites on behalf of blacks is a grave matter, a miscarriage of justice that demands the application of harsh penalties. Prosecutorial excess against blacks on behalf of whites, by contrast, is a trivial matter, so common in our system that it's taken for granted.

Twelve dozen years post-emancipation and 50 years into the civil rights movement, we haven't progressed much as a people. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised that the legal system reflects our ignorance and brutality, but we ought to be outraged.

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Seems to me, the only hate crme that was committed was when the black youths beat the white boy while saying racial comments !!!!

A noose means nothing, just like a black hair pick with a closed fist means nothing racial

Originally Posted by KID

A noose means nothing

That would depend on the circumstances.
If it meant nothing, why put it up?
Any meaning at all to the noose hanging from the car, do you reckon, or was it hanging there by accident, they just forget to pull it in when they drove to the protest?

does a swastika mean nothing?

Originally Posted by blackgang

I am a fully grown man and of above average intelligence and am not racist or bigoted and I can tell jokes about anyone and I can laugh at jokes about anyone or anything without it bothering me,

Originally Posted by blackgang

I lived with Rocky and Zee when ever I was working in their area after I quit the sea, their kids called me Uncle.

i wonder how rocky, zee, and their kids would feel about what you posted on this forum...

Originally Posted by blackgang

https://teakdoor.com/jokes-and-funny-...ist-jokes.html (more racist jokes)

And those practical jokes, nooses hanging from trees and all, aren't they funny?

Don't we, grown adults, adolescents and little kiddies alike, just love Southern "humor"?

Originally Posted by stroller

And those practical jokes, nooses hanging from trees and all, aren't they funny?

Don't we, grown adults, adolescents and little kiddies alike, just love Southern "humor"?

Worked with too many good 'ol boys to love southern humor...

it's spreading across the south....

A total of four nooses were found Friday around the campus of Andrews High School in High Point, N.C., police said.
Two nooses were hung on a tree in front of the school, one was in a bus loop near the upperclassmen's parking lot, and one red noose was tied to the top of the school flagpole, High Point Police Capt. Margaret Erga said, citing a police report.

ABC News: After Jena, Nooses Found at 2nd School

and let's remember that the racists that did this in jena got suspended from high school.... not a single criminal charge was filed, but they suffered the severe punishment of not having to go to school for a couple of days....and the school superintendent called it a "juvenile prank".

Students rally for "Jena Six" - News

and people wonder whether affirmative action is still necessary.....if they're going to hang nooses today, you think they're going to give blacks a fair shot at the jobs tomorrow?

Originally Posted by Richard Littlejohn

Teenagers are pranksters & while I don't agree with the nooses, how they can try & justify what they did because of it is beyond me. It's vigilante justice.

Did anyone see the whole programme on the Beeb?

At the time the nooses were hung, there was some yelling and abuse, then some time later, one white youth (student) brought a gun into a town function and threatened some black youths. The black youths wrested the gun from him and they were charged with assault and theft of the gun. The white youth was not charged. He has since been expelled for violence against another student.

There was also another punch up between a white and black student and the white student (aggressor) was suspended for two days.

The boy who was beaten, was yelling racial abuse (according to witnesses) was told to shut up, didn't and was attacked. Knocked down and kicked. He was taken to hospital but not admitted and went out later that evening.

Attempted murder?

Originally Posted by Lily

Originally Posted by Richard Littlejohn

Teenagers are pranksters & while I don't agree with the nooses, how they can try & justify what they did because of it is beyond me. It's vigilante justice.

Did anyone see the whole programme on the Beeb?

At the time the nooses were hung, there was some yelling and abuse, then some time later, one white youth (student) brought a gun into a town function and threatened some black youths. The black youths wrested the gun from him and they were charged with assault and theft of the gun. The white youth was not charged. He has since been expelled for violence against another student.

There was also another punch up between a white and black student and the white student (aggressor) was suspended for two days.

The boy who was beaten, was yelling racial abuse (according to witnesses) was told to shut up, didn't and was attacked. Knocked down and kicked. He was taken to hospital but not admitted and went out later that evening.

Attempted murder?

These things have gone on for over a hundred years.

The media is salivating over it.

Personally, I don't give a hoot.

As long as people don't bother me.

Originally Posted by Milkman

These things have gone on for over a hundred years.

And that makes it right or harmless?

Originally Posted by Milkman

Personally, I don't give a hoot.

Then why comment at all?

Originally Posted by Milkman

As long as people don't bother me.

Well, unless you are black, no one is going hang a noose in front of your house.