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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    it's an investment and Assad will paying for his life/regime later on
    That is nothing new Assad and his father have been kissing the Russian ring for decades.

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    ^^ Doesn't always work out like that, does it.

    Far from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Shit Putin gives Assad all the weapons he wants for free.
    War is never free, however one could look at the Russian involvement in Syria a well planned and executed, advertising campaign.

    Shiny and rusty weapons actually performing, military forces actually achieve goals, political manoeuvrers achieving agreeable settlements instead of slaughter, training of Russian and partners military, bug fixing weapons, logistical and integration of systems. All before the worlds gasping audience.

    Financial, political, status, all positive achievements for a midget country eh? All designed, manufactured by Russians in Russian factories, certified and available off the shelf. No fears of a sudden "maintenance" delay, foreign sanctions ....... which some countries renege on.

    Not including in the above; Mediterranean military ports and airfields, gas/oil exploration contracts - onshore and offshore, reconstruction contracts, going forward a possible jump of Turkey to THE LORDS, Uncle Xi and Iran's camp. Israel shown as the all hat and no cattle in terms of power, it really is. ameristan's whimpering on an island surrounded by sharks they can't leave for fear of being arrested for crimes against humanity.

    At what cost; a few planes, new and old weapons, a pilot or two, an orchestra and a hundred or so Russian military personnel.

    The benefit; a country and it's people saved from terrorist throat slitters. Who, although backed by the very very unexceptional ameristan and European parties in all means possible, currently have achieved a big fat 0
    Last edited by OhOh; 14-08-2018 at 04:18 PM.
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    ^ Kids when you want to see an example of a brainwashed bozo this post is the poster child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    What a remarkable demonstration of ignorance. You're quite special needs, aren't you?

    Putin blocked his first UN Resolution on Syria in October 2011, allowing him to continue selling weapons to the murderous Assad to use against his own people.

    If you don't even know the basics like that, go outside and play and leave the grown ups to talk.
    Ah I see you didn't understand my post, it is likely because your timeline is wrong.

    The UN Resolution you speak of and the supply of weapons(including the supply of weapons by both the US/UK) happened after(not before) the Arab Spring I referred to in my post.

    Now go back and read my post again, more slowly this time and see if you can reply with something that resonates with the historical facts which are a matter of public record.

    You might need to read up here also:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality


    Further questions:

    Can you explain why the west(US/UK) didn't encourage The Arab Spring in Egypt, Palestine and Bahrain ...& why they didn't even condemn the military crackdown on the citizens of those countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You are a fucking moron
    Thanks for the feedback and the rage rep.

    When participants in a debate reply to a point with only insults, it's usually because they have lost the argument so have nothing else to reply with...
    Last edited by foobar; 14-08-2018 at 06:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Thanks for the feedback and the rage rep.
    Far from a rage rep. You are just another propagandist posting bullshit.

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    You sound so calm and measured...

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    You sound so calm and measured...
    He doesn't reason very well.....like many here.
    What might one expect from a blind flag waving, cultural-centric who pretends to be worldly and knowledgeable.

    Pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    He doesn't reason very well.....like many here.
    What might one expect from a blind flag waving, cultural-centric who pretends to be worldly and knowledgeable.

    Pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Ah I see you didn't understand my post, it is likely because your timeline is wrong.

    The UN Resolution you speak of and the supply of weapons(including the supply of weapons by both the US/UK) happened after(not before) the Arab Spring I referred to in my post.

    Now go back and read my post again, more slowly this time and see if you can reply with something that resonates with the historical facts which are a matter of public record.

    You might need to read up here also:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality


    Further questions:

    Can you explain why the west(US/UK) didn't encourage The Arab Spring in Egypt, Palestine and Bahrain ...& why they didn't even condemn the military crackdown on the citizens of those countries?
    To answer your first point, the Arab spring started in Tunisia and spread East, starting at the end of 2010. The UN got involved in Syria when it was clear that the population were not going to rest and Assad was going to use his army to kill the opposition (i.e. the Sunni majority).

    Putin blocked it, firstly because it's his only Mediterranean naval base, and also because Assad was one of his few friends in the Middle East.

    I never said it happened before the Arab Spring. It was part of the Arab Spring. Some kids in Dara'a sprayed some slogans that they'd seen on TV in early 2011. Assad's forces went over the top, people went out to complain, Assad's forces opened fire and the country erupted. When the UN went to stop it, Russia veto'ed it.

    Can I explain why the West only got involved in Libya and Syria?

    Of course I fucking can. Both dictators were using their military to commit mass murder to quell the population you daft twat.

    That was not the case in Egypt, Palestine, Bahrain, Jordan, Oman, Morocco or Kuwait, nor any other countries that had Arab Spring related uprisings, most of which were put down with (albeit minor) reforms (except Bahrain, but that had a Shi'a uprising long before the Arab spring).

    You seem to understand neither the timeline nor the history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Thanks for the feedback and the rage rep.

    When participants in a debate reply to a point with only insults, it's usually because they have lost the argument so have nothing else to reply with...
    bsnob has lost the plot a long time ago,

    he drives a Telsa, could explain why

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Can I explain why the West only got involved in Libya and Syria?

    Of course I fucking can. Both dictators were using their military to commit mass murder to quell the population you daft twat.

    That was not the case in Egypt, Palestine, Bahrain
    This is just utterly incorrect..., but thanks for confirming just how biased and misinformed you are.

    We don't have to back 10 years ago, just in the last few months hundreds of Palestinian civilians have been murdered by the Israeli military to quell the population, including nurses, journalists and children etc ...yet, not a peep from the west.

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    Thank goodness we've the great array of superior classed Anglo-American apologists to twist the narrative and to promote the deepest ideals of traditional boogiemen, as to justify their reasoned empire expansion - deep seated and make believe historic precedence never ends.

    Mindless racketeering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    This is just utterly incorrect..., but thanks for confirming just how biased and misinformed you are.

    We don't have to back 10 years ago, just in the last few months hundreds of Palestinian civilians have been murdered by the Israeli military to quell the population, including nurses, journalists and children etc ...yet, not a peep from the west.
    Oh FFS if you are trying to compare the Israeli/Palestinian conflict with the Arab Spring, you're a bigger dickhead than I thought.

    That's been going on since before Israel existed.

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    Will Russia keep the special one's, Israel, safe by keeping it's policemen guarding the Israeli borders with Syria and Lebanon forever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    training of Russian and partners military
    yes - there are a few books translated to englsh written by russian soldiers in their modern military - I suggest you should aquaint yourself with some of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh FFS if you are trying to compare the Israeli/Palestinian conflict with the Arab Spring, you're a bigger dickhead than I thought.

    That's been going on since before Israel existed.
    lolz ...the Israeli/Palestinian conflict was going on before Israel existed?

    How does that work Harry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    lolz ...the Israeli/Palestinian conflict was going on before Israel existed?

    How does that work Harry?
    You know what I mean.

    The blue suede shoes were fighting Palestinians in the 20s because of them filling the place with like-minded foreigners and pissing the Arabs off.

    All Balfour did was put the lines on a bit of paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Thank goodness we've the great array of superior classed Anglo-American apologists to twist the narrative and to promote the deepest ideals of traditional boogiemen, as to justify their reasoned empire expansion - deep seated and make believe historic precedence never ends.

    Mindless racketeering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    How's it going for you there in Portland, Jeff?
    Must be rough for him stuck in his moms basement all these years banging out incoherent illegible rants on TD and sending nasty reds. Jeezus have you seen the state of his kitchen? The nasty bugger probably hasn't cleaned his tiles in over a decade.

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    The tiles were pretty awful. He probably has an Aspergillis fungal infection of the brain.

    http://neuropathology-web.org/chapte...er5cFungi.html


    What we are seeing is mould-driven posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    What we are seeing is mould-driven posting.

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    Unsurprisingly the horrific war crimes by ameristan, UK and SA continue. This time in Yemen.

    Yet Another US-Saudi Massacre In Yemen: UN Condemns Airstrike Killing 22 Children


    "Just two weeks after a US-Saudi coalition airstrike on a school bus in Yemen killed some 40 children in an event which finally caught international media attention, there's a new report that coalition jets have struck a camp for internally displaced people in the flashpoint region of Hodeidah.

    Pro-Houthi rebel outlets were the first to report the massacre, which was quickly picked up in international media. According to reports, at least 22 children and four women were killed.

    "[The victims were] dead children and women. [It was a] disgusting crime," the Houthi-run Al Masirah TV network reported Thursday. Refugees were reportedly fleeing fighting in the area area when the airstrike occurred. The BBC reports the following based on a United Nation official in the region: "The victims were fleeing fighting in the al-Durayhimi district, south of the port city of Hudaydah, when their vehicle was hit on Thursday. A separate air strike the same day killed four children, according to the UN's humanitarian chief Mark Lowcock."

    The UN quickly weighing in on the attack is significant, given both Saudi and United States recent statements indicating they do not deliberately target civilians or civilian infrastructure."

    After the August 9th attack on a school bus in the north of the country, which killed scores of mostly children, the Saudi coalition spokesman defended its actions as "legitimate".

    The BBC continues of the heightened scrutiny regarding US-Saudi coalition war crimes in Yemen:

    Mr Lowcock's statement on Friday confirmed that the victims had been fleeing violence around the rebel-held port city Hudaydah.

    He renewed calls for an impartial and independent investigation into air strikes. A report by Human Rights Watch the same day accused the Saudi-led coalition of failing to hold "credible" investigations into such incidents.
    The reported attack was condemned by Unicef, Save the Children and other international organisations.
    Earlier this month, UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres called for an independent and prompt investigation into Saudi coalition airstrikes on civilian targets, including the August 9 school bus attack.
    UNICEF's regional director in the Middle East and North Africa, had tweeted in the aftermath of the school bus massacre: "NO EXCUSES ANYMORE!!"

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ng-22-children

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    SA couldn't commit war crimes if they tried, they're mates!

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