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    Garrie begins by explaining how the United States is "no longer a democracy," but instead a kleptocracy. Here we see the Kremlin's never-ending effort to spread scorn about American political credibility and social stability. In the long term, President Vladimir Putin wants the U.S. to retreat inwards into our own doubts and fears and thus leave the world free for Russian leadership.
    "scorn about American political credibility and social stability" does need to be spread by "Kremlin"", it has been already spread by its own means...

    "U.S. to retreat inwards into our own doubts and fears"? For that the "Putin" does not need move a finger, it's on its own process...



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    It would have been called Dumb Bart but they thought the trailer trash would prefer Breitbart.

    Despite the wonder of Chinese productions, I don't foresee millions of Americans and Mexicans Russians or Thais dreaming of relocating there,

    I quite liked living in China but masochism aside I was a smoker then, today the pollution is as bad ever with an emperor for life supplanting any progressive change, ironically China's own goal Xi's hegemony may buy US a few more years dominance
    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I just want the chance to use a bigger porridge bowl.

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    ^^klondyke you are right on the money in post #76.

    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    but the Russians know all they have to do is persuade one more viewer to become just a little bit more disillusioned.
    I don't need Russian input(or CA BS) for that. No Facebook meddling of any sort has informed my opinion of the shit show I live in daily. I don't use FB and never will.

    I've been disillusioned since the early to mid 1990s and am now disenchanted. The "system" in the US has become a farce for those of us not in the 1%. My attitude problem with what the US has become is not partisan nor ideological. Granted I'm not destitute, but I feel like I'm just a neo-feudal serf. We now have a government of, by and for the corporate moneychangers. Every aspect of our lives has been financialized. IMO there's no where to run to to get away from that. It's not just the US in this pickle.

    misskit why are you and why did you become an expat? Why is an expat so quick to defend the indefensible? btw...It's not just you. Do you think things at home are still the same as when you left? (Not sure how long you've been an expat)

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    You know when you 've been Zuckere'd

    The Cambridge Analytica Files.-have-you-bee-zuckered-jpg
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    ^That c u n t right there is the #1 reason I'll never use FB. Fuck him and the Winklevoss horse he rode in on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    but it was still the Russian though right..
    Beat me to it Neo mate.

    Fuckn laughable innit.

    It's always the Americans.

    Every.

    Fucking.

    Time.

    (Or one of their lapdogs)

    Which, I'm ashamed to say, sadly seems to be currently headed by the UK government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    It's all nonsense, of course, but the Russians know all they have to do is persuade one more viewer to become just a little bit more disillusioned.
    Ever wondering why some do not want to see clear facts?
    Or they do see them? And despite that they look how to ridicule/humiliate the others who pointing to those facts and clear evidence?

    That a rogue govt do it and all their servants as well, but why other people do that? Yes, some have to, otherwise losing their lucrative jobs, so how they would pay their mortgage and kid's college.

    But why some who are not connected? Perhaps they cannot withstand the painful truth? And they still are proud to be part of that strong entity?

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    May ambushed in parliament over Tories’ extensive links to shady research firm Cambridge Analytica
    Published time: 21 Mar, 2018

    Theresa May was ambushed in parliament over Tory links to shady political research firm Cambridge Analytica (CA). It’s reported that the party received more than £700,000 ($985,000) in donations from a director of the company.
    During Prime Minister’s Questions, SNP leader Ian Blackford asked May if she agreed that "subverting the democratic political process is unacceptable." May replied that this was something that "everyone in the house [parliament] would accept."

    Blackford then listed the Tory-CA ties for MPs, stating “... that the parent company of CA… has been run by a chairman of Oxford Conservative Association. Its funding chairman was a former Conservative MP. A director has donated over £700,000 to the Tory party. A former Conservative Party treasurer is a shareholder. We know the links to the Conservative Party go on and on.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...&v=nZUWVyMw62E

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    Company filings show that Trump-affiliated data-mining firm Cambridge Analytica has a link to a Chinese security and logistics company run by Erik Prince, the former mercenary who founded private military company Blackwater.


    British corporate records show that Alexander Nix, the suspended chief executive of Cambridge Analytica, is also director of a company called Emerdata Ltd. that was incorporated in August 2017.


    Other Emerdata directors include people associated with Cambridge Analytica, along with Johnson Ko Chun Shun, who was appointed in January.



    Ko is also deputy chairman of Hong Kong-based Frontier Services Group, whose chairman is Prince.


    FSG has attracted attention because of concerns Prince plans to provide special forces veterans to assist Chinese companies investing in risky locations overseas.
    China’s biggest state-owned company, Citic, is a major FSG shareholder.


    The Cambridge University researcher who developed an app used by Cambridge Analytica to harvest data from millions of Facebook users claims he has been made a scapegoat.
    Alexandr Kogan told BBC on Wednesday he believed all the information he provided was obtained legitimately. He said he was approached by Cambridge Analytica, which is being investigated by British and U.S. authorities for possible misuse of data.



    He said: “They approached me. In terms of the usage of Facebook data they wrote the terms of service for the app, they provided the legal advice that this was all appropriate.”


    Kogan admitted he did not ask enough questions about the data use and did not have a lawyer review the agreement.


    Cambridge Analytica has suspended its top executive as possible misuse of data is checked.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-blackwater-f/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    We now have a government of, by and for the corporate moneychangers. Every aspect of our lives has been financialized. IMO there's no where to run to to get away from that. It's not just the US in this pickle.

    misskit why are you and why did you become an expat? Why is an expat so quick to defend the indefensible? btw...It's not just you. Do you think things at home are still the same as when you left? (Not sure how long you've been an expat)
    Well, yeah. The government has let capitolism run amok and corporations have too much freedom to do what they want. There was a time when monopolies were not tolerated, now a blind eye is turned and they have become all pervasive. Facebook and Google are fine examples of this.

    Not sure what the indefensible is I am defending but I think the key is to dislodge the politicians allowing the current situation to continue. Know who they are and vote them out. Break up the stanglehold corporations have over healthcare (immoral!), gun control, finances, and communications.

    The reasons I live in Thailand have nothing to do with politics. However, if you think things are bad in the USA, come here and criticize the government or the wrong family and see where you end up.

    Not the thread for this conversation so I wiil stop now.

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    Well Mr Zuckerberg has changed his name to SuckerTurd , WELL HE IS FULL OF SHIT ( AND MONEY )

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    Just look at the date on this article. i'm really starting to wonder how many facebook users voted Trump (or Brexit for that matter) compared to the rest of the population who doesn't use social media.


    Donald Trump's mind readers try to win him voters

    November 4, 2016

    London (CNN)In a non-descript office in central London, young analytical minds are hard at work crunching thousands of pieces of data about every American adult.

    They are Donald Trump's secret political weapon. His campaign paid more than $5 million in September alone to Cambridge Analytica, which claims it can convince voters to back him by tailoring Trump's political ads to their personalities.

    Their approach combines micro-targeting, already in use in political campaigning, with psychological profiling. The company gathers up to 5,000 pieces of data about a potential voter to create a psychological profile, then adapts political ads to his or her personality and beliefs.

    Using a survey usually placed on social media, the company invites users to take a personality test. The results of that test help the company group people under personality types measuring openness, conscientiousness, extraversion, agreeableness and neuroticism.

    MORE https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/04/p...ica/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    $5 million in September alone to Cambridge Analytica
    And just where was all this money coming from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ust look at the date on this article. i'm really starting to wonder how many facebook users voted Trump (or Brexit for that matter) compared to the rest of the population who doesn't use social media
    All this money and big data, IMO, the final decision came down to people choosing between a witch representing the same old and a nutcase who at least had a new line. Alot of ppl took a chance on something new. Only about 33% bought into trump's bs. I doubt the effects of the ads etc, could outplay either candidates persona. If Hilary had taken some schmooze lessons from Bill, that probably would have been enough to put her over the top.
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    ^ "Crooked Hillary" was a massive campain of untruths. You think that kind of false message should be pushed to targeted soft headed social media users?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    "Crooked Hillary" was a massive campain of untruths. You think that kind of false message should be pushed to targeted soft headed social media users?
    The crooked Hilary approach worked. I doubt trump needed CA or the Russians to come up with it though. Also, the timing of Comey's report of HRC's email debacle had a big effect. Trump did a lot better job of connecting with voters than Hilary, big data can't help with that.

    As for soft-headed FB users, any ad with trump saying 'drain the swamp' and MAGA would have worked. I don't think all the time and money spent on the data harvesting was worth it.

    But no, it shouldn't had happened but the GOP's at fault there.
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    ^ when you consider the congressional approval ratings at the time and currently it is no wonder "drain the swamp" resonates with the public.

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    Zuckerberg: Maybe tech should face some regulations


    Facebook chief executive Mark Zuckerberg said on Wednesday that he’s open to having his company be regulated.


    “Actually, I’m not sure we shouldn’t be regulated,” Zuckerberg said in an interview with CNN that represented some of his first public remarks since the Cambridge Analytica controversy plunged his company into crisis and led to calls for his testimony to Congress.


    “I actually think the question is more ‘what is the right regulation?’ rather than ‘yes or no, should it be regulated?’” Zuckerberg told CNN.

    The Facebook CEO said that “he would love to see” new transparency regulations for political advertisements. Facebook has been criticized for a lack of transparency.


    “If you look at how much regulation there is around advertising on TV, in print, you know, it's just not clear why there should be less on the internet,” he said.
    Facebook and other tech firms have resisted legislative efforts in Congress to impose new regulations.


    Late year, Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) and Mark Warner (D-Va.) introduced the Honest Ads Act, legislation that would hold internet platforms like Facebook to the same political ad disclosure standards as TV, radio and print political advertisements.


    The bill has yet to gain traction in Congress. Even though Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has backed the bill, few Republicans have been willing to follow suit and publicly jump on board.


    Facebook has faced intense scrutiny from critics, including lawmakers on Capitol Hill, since it revealed that the British research firm Cambridge Analytica improperly took data from 50 million Facebook users without permission.


    The company had previously been scrutinized for how Russian groups used its platform to attempt to influence the 2016 election.


    Zuckerberg: Maybe tech should face some regulations | TheHill




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    ^^yeah, and Hilary was a member of that crowd. Trump got extra points by being an outsider.

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    ^ Yepper and don't forget the "anyone but Hillary" mobilization of Bernie Sanders supporters..

    Trump didn't need any help from the Russians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Trump didn't need any help from the Russians.
    Agreed. That whole rusher thing was more about agitating and creating chaos than anything else. It worked well.

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    ^ Not needed. Trump creates enough chaos and agitation all by his lonesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    The crooked Hilary approach worked. I doubt trump needed CA or the Russians to come up with it though.
    But they did though. The entire "crooked Hillary" and "lock her up" false narrative was created by CA.

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    ^ Yet to be proven.

    A lot of what's being reported about CA is what Alexander Nix bragged about in the video. I doubt they had self destructing email and seems mostly he was trying too hard to big up CA.

    The 5 yo mentality of name calling fits in with trump's MO. CA may have helped spread it, any campaign manager could have done the same. Telling lies about your opponent's not a new or groundbreaking strategy.

    Once trump won the nomination anything he said would be frontline news. CA can't control that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    A lot of what's being reported about CA is what Alexander Nix bragged about in the video.
    I seriously doubt that he was lying about any of that because at some point his client will expect him to deliver on his claims. You do not get as big as CA by telling tall tails to clients besides that was the narrative that CA came out with after they realized that they got nailed in a sting. That hey had just made it all up to impress the client or that they were trying to bait him. Bullshit.

    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    I doubt they had self destructing email
    You are flat out wrong there. Proton mail is very real and widely used, completely free and even has its own android app. I actually have my own proton mail account. Anyone can send a fully encrypted email that can self destruct at a designated time.

    https://smartphones.gadgethacks.com/...mails-0179856/

    https://protonmail.com/

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