Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Troy

I don't see a lot of movement. There won't be until the current tories and labour are gone. The UK needs to find a captain sensible to run the show.

Don’t talk drivel. Government is only as good as the electorate and at present a significant proportion of English voters are fucking idiots, delusional pricks, bigoted shitehawks, geriatric nazis, prejudiced and credulous airheads lapping up any and all disinformation churned out by right wing corporate shills and the merely addled.

Britain doesn’t do captains, that’s for septics and fascists, you buffoon.

The last time it tried to go for a man of charisma etc they voted for the clown BoJo and his rabble.

The country is fucked. Just accept it, Brexit was a victory for the moron and their star is rising in what has now become The Age of The Stupid.

Britain is losing 5% of GDP annually because of Brexit. That’s a fact.

But no one cares. They’re really that stupid.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Quite amusing how Brexit monkeys are now seeking to change the narrative now that the imbecility of leaving the EU is apparent to even the thickest of knuckle dragging dinosaur bigot ignoramuses

Another classic quote from genticles.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Brexit was a victory for the moron and their star is rising in what has now become The Age of The Stupid.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The country is fucked. Just accept it, Brexit was a victory for the moron and their star is rising in what has now become The Age of The Stupid.

That reality can't be argued. NPT/Strigils/twat/malmomike has been clowned in this thread countless times if you go back in this thread's history. He really mastered the "dumb" on this topic.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Government is only as good as the electorate and at present a significant proportion of English voters are fucking idiots, delusional pricks, bigoted shitehawks, geriatric nazis, prejudiced and credulous airheads lapping up any and all disinformation churned out by right wing corporate shills and the merely addled.

Actually, the government is only as good as the Media and what they feed to the electorate. You want change, you change what you tell the electorate to think. That is how charisma works and how BoJo swayed the undecided into voting for Brexit.

So, I politely disagree with your assessment and maintain that the UK awaits a Captain Sensible to turn things around. There is no way on earth that the current Tory of Labour governments have the leadership or commitment to be able to turn the Brexit vote around, stand up and say it was a fooking disaster, and get the UK back on track and back in the EU.

Charisma brings changes, the electorate are too stupid to do it on their own.

We do not want to be back in the EU - that's a certainty.

However, our national politics is terrible and needs serious changes.
(That's not the EU's fault. There are two problems - the biggest being Neo-liberalism at the EU level.)

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

We do not want to be back in the EU - that's a certainty.

Whose the "we"...the idiots that believed the lies?

The electorate. You know the lot that some people want to forget exist...

As you correctly said, education is the key.

Originally Posted by Troy

Whose the "we"...the idiots that believed the lies?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

The electorate.

So, that's a 'yes', Troy.

Most serious pundits, economists and institutions viewed Brexit as profoundly stupid and an entirely avoidable self inflicted grievous wound on so many levels. In addition to the deleterious effects upon the economy and social progress, perhaps the worst impact was upon Britain’s reputation as an international player rooted in the European bloc denoted by stability, its rule of law and commitment to human rights underpinning future development. That reputation has been shredded and the Truss madness merely compounded the realisation Britain was unhinged, and with its attempts to withdraw from the 1951 Convention, the EHRC and participation within the Council of Europe the downward spiral as a nation of worth was confirmed.

A reputation once shot cannot be fully regained and Britain as an internationalist force for change is now but a distant memory for most. The £ is down again, international investment is down, the US is increasingly sidelining the UK and the focus of the free world is resolutely on the axis between Washington and Brussels.

Britain is permanently fucked and that is that. What once was has forever gone and what is left is a curiosity off the coast of NW Europe, a repository for a faded history, a crippled economy, its services in decline, its people largely irrelevant.

Brexit fucked England, and there it is. There is no going back.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

The electorate. You know the lot that some people want to forget exist...

As you correctly said, education is the key.

Education is worthless if you lack the wit and intelligence to apply it.

The key factor currently driving the global imperatives is stupidity.

Trumpism and Brexit simply confirmed the new era has begun, the Anthropocene Age aka The Age of The Stupid.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Brexshitory apologists, loons and general fuckwits,

To wit:

Originally Posted by malmomike77

mystic megs

Originally Posted by taxexile

and look at the economies of the eu right now, no one is doing very well, except the usa

Ah, newsflash from the octogenarian . . . "USA is in the EU!" Halfwits voted or Brexit . . . as can be seen here.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

ooopps

Seems a common word when it comes to Brexit.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Trumpism and Brexit simply confirmed the new era has begun, the Anthropocene Age aka The Age of The Stupid.

Yup, very obviously so.

gonna be fun when Keir the C___ gets in - he'll give up after a year and have a referendum.

EU rubbishes Keir Starmer’s big idea to ‘improve’ Brexit


Labour leader’s pledge to secure a new deal to ease border checks on food has already been rejected by eurocrats


Sir Keir Starmer’s main proposal to “improve” the Brexit trade deal was rejected by the EU just months ago, The Telegraph can reveal.


The Labour leader has said he would secure a New Zealand-style veterinary deal with Brussels to ease border checks on food.


He has made the planned agreement the cornerstone of his pledge to overhaul the pact Boris Johnson, the former prime minister, struck with the bloc in 2020.


But the proposal looks dead in the water because of opposition from the European Commission, which wants to sign Britain up to following EU rules instead.


Labour 'learns nothing from last seven years'


Government sources told The Telegraph that the UK negotiating team proposed such a deal in the most recent talks on the Northern Ireland Protocol.


Officials raised the idea in late September as a way of slashing checks on goods crossing the Irish Sea, but it was rejected by eurocrats.


Lord Frost, the former Brexit negotiator, told The Telegraph that the EU had also turned down the same proposal when he was leading trade talks in 2020.


“It’s always been clear that the only kind of food standards or veterinary agreement the EU will do with a near neighbour like the UK is one in which we have to accept EU laws,” he said.


“That was never acceptable to the Boris Johnson government or to the British people who voted to take back control.


“It really is depressing that Labour seems to have learned nothing from the seven years since the referendum and is still trying to sell unnegotiable fantasy proposals to voters.


“If they want to accept EU rules without a say in them, they should at least be honest about it.”


New Zealand and the EU recognise each other’s agricultural standards as being equal, allowing most border checks on food to be scrapped.


Under the arrangement, Wellington retains complete control over its own lawmaking and decides by itself how to fulfil the terms of the deal.


'Bespoke' agreement


Sir Keir and his top team have repeatedly trumpeted it as the basis on which they would seek their own “bespoke” agreement with the EU.


He put the proposed pact at the centre of a major speech in July last year, during which he outlined his party’s plan to “make Brexit work”.


“Labour will seek a new veterinary agreement for trade in agri-products between the UK and EU. Something countries like New Zealand and Canada already have in place,” he said.


Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor, reiterated the pledge in March, arguing that a veterinary deal was key to easing trade barriers with Europe.


She said: “To help our farming and fishing industries, we could make a veterinary agreement with the EU to reduce red tape. New Zealand has one with the EU, Britain doesn’t.”


Brussels has argued that it cannot grant the same deal to the UK because doing so would present a big threat to the competitiveness of European farmers.


It argues that Britain is a much larger and closer trading partner, meaning there is a significantly greater economic risk from importing more cheaply produced goods.


Eurocrats have instead repeatedly pushed a Swiss-style deal. Switzerland copies and pastes EU food rules in return for full access to its market.


Maros Sefcovic, the EU’s Brexit negotiator, even proposed in 2021 that the UK could sign up to such an agreement on a “temporary” basis.


But the Government rejected the offer on sovereignty grounds and because it could tie ministers’ hands in trade negotiations with countries like the US and India.


Swiss-style deal ruled out


Sir Keir also ruled out a Swiss-style relationship when asked about it last November, insisting it would “not be the fix some imagine”.


“I went to Switzerland and studied that model and I wouldn't do a Swiss model,” he added.


The Labour leader has said he would seek an “improved” Brexit deal shortly after entering Downing Street, but has ruled out rejoining the EU.


He has also insisted that he would not take Britain back into the Single Market or Customs Union, but would instead seek mini-deals to ease trade barriers.


Sir Keir also wants an agreement on the recognition of professional qualifications, which would make it easier for workers to move to and from the continent.


Brussels has previously rejected similar proposals from the Government on that front too, arguing that work mobility must be linked to the free movement of people.

EU rubbishes Keir Starmer’s big idea to ‘improve’ Brexit

It's almost as if Britain and the EU would still have to reach negotiated agreements under Labour.

^ i'm looking forward to it

Originally Posted by malmomike77

British people who voted to take back control.

Just goes to show how you can win votes with silly (and meaningless) slogans.

Latest polls show 56% of the electorate now think that leaving the EU was a mistake. A pity that the government told them not to listen to the experts...and they fell for that!

^^ Well, they certainly can't do any worse.

Originally Posted by Troy

Just goes to show how you can win votes with silly (and meaningless) slogans.

MM/strigils/NPT/Whingey McFlounce took the bait hook, line and sinker, and he is still swallowing the Kool-Aid.

Originally Posted by bsnub

No to cook it. Anyway, why is all this pie talk in the drunk food thread? Isn't there some pie thread for you wankers to post in?

another subject the Seattle slouch brings his idiocy too....

swallowing the Kool-Aid.

Originally Posted by bsnub

MM/strigils/NPT/Whingey McFlounce took the bait hook, line and sinker, and he is still swallowing the Kool-Aid.

That's only because he is a dumbfuck of the highest order . . . still going on about how brilliant Brexit has been and how awful the EU is STILL being. That's enough to makes his hair fall out.

EXCLUSIVE - The case for Swexit: Swedish MEP says his country is 'being dragged into a union no voter wants', praises 'inspirational' Brexit and warns Remoaners who want to rejoin the EU it is WORSE since Britain left

The case for Swexit: Swedish MEP says his country is 'being dragged into a union no voter wants' | Daily Mail Online

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Good God, not again . . . what is this need to try to bring others into a state of misery they find themselves in?


Didn't we just have this 'Swexit' crap well and truly debunked a short while ago? One of the most pro-EU countries . . . a few numpties say they don't like it and soap-dodgers are all over it as 'proof' Brexit was a great idea.

Poor Prag, the Daily Mail as a source of any value is as reliable as RT or The Pyongyang Times.

Brexit is a recognised disaster that even the most retarded knuckle dragger acknowledges.

From agriculture to the automotive trade, from the SMEs to fintech and inward investment, it’s a fuckup.

The only morons still sucking the arsehole of it are the ERG rabble and their shills, ie the right wing press pandering to their constituency of the stupid, the deluded, the ignorant, the malicious, the bigoted and prejudiced, and of course the merely addled.

Boros resigns as an MP following Partygate report. It was always going to happen, he should have resigned as soon as this surfaced, would have saved a bit of money.

He ended up being just as fake as Brexit.

Pity so many believed in him. The UK will take years to recover from the disaster Brexit has become.

One of the first Pro-Brexit posts on here in August 2017, oddly enough a bit of sense from butterfly:

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

if May can't even draft an agreement for Brexit because she doesn't have the staff for it, how is she going to manage all those bi-lateral agreements with the rest of the world ?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Easily as the rest of the world know their place and aren't full of self importance like the EU. I really do hope we just away with no deal.

Yes . . . easily . . . followed now by people like taxidriver saying it will take a few generations to show how good Brexit was/is/will be.



A resounding success . . . and Boris has finally racked off.