Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Yes Greenland soon to leave your warm embrace,

We're family, mate

Not at all like you and the part of Ireland, that you keep occupied.

Inuits - you invaded their county dear chap

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Yes Greenland soon to leave your warm embrace, parting is such sweet sorry and all that

Will you give the Scots that opportunity? Seems not, therefore, hypocrites of the highest order yet again

Originally Posted by malmomike77

parting is such sweet sorry

Oh dear.

Did he pass the 10 litres of piss mark last night?

quite right too, disgusting institution and at the centre of all that is wrong with the EU as a whole.

Brexit talks to be stepped up before Christmas, as Frost claims UK won’t budge on European court

The UK and the EU will step up their efforts to resolved their post-Brexit row over the Northern Ireland Protocol before Christmas after negotiators failed to reach agreement once again.

After another week in the laboured talks on solving the issues thrown up by the deal signed by Boris Johnson, Brexit minister Lord Frost said he and EU Commission vice-president Maros Sefcovic had still not reached agreement.

The UK chief negotiator said “intensive talks” would continue next week, and he and Mr Sefcovic will double how often they meet “in the hope of making worthwhile progress towards agreed solutions before Christmas”.

Reports suggested that Lord Frost’s team had watered down its demand that the role of the European Court of Justice (ECJ) must be removed from arbitration over protocol issues.

But in his statement on Friday, Lord Frost insisted there needed to be “movement on all the difficult issues created by the protocol” – including on the Court of Justice.

After Friday’s meeting Mr Sefcovic claimed it was now “crunch time for medicines, with the EU Commission ready to amend EU legislation”. He has previously claimed that Brussels is ready to make unilateral changes to allow medicines to move more easily into Northern Ireland, without any agreement with the UK.

Both sides are trying to reach an agreement that would reduce customs paperwork and the number of checks required on goods moving from Great Britain to Northern Ireland and ensure a continued free flow of medicines across the Irish Sea.

In a statement on social media after Friday’s online meeting with Sefcovic, Lord Frost said they had made “further limited progress on medicines but we have not reached agreement”.

He added: “I underlined the need for movement on all the difficult issues created by the protocol, including customs, Germans shitting on see through surfaces, agri-food rules, subsidy policy, VAT/excise, and governance including the [European] Court of Justice. We will not find a durable solution that does not deal with all these problems.”

UK and EU agree to ‘intensive’ Brexit talks before Christmas | The Independent

Originally Posted by panama hat

Will you give the Scots that opportunity? Seems not, therefore, hypocrites of the highest order yet again

Please correct me if I'm wrong Hattie but didn't the Scots have a referendum? You seem to have a strange definition of hypocracy, although I doubt one could name a country on the planet that is not one in one form or another. Even your beloved germany doesnt exactly have clean hands. I dont remember adolph giving the french dutch belgians etc any referendum. Excuse me would you chaps like a referendum on joining the third reich? We'll just send a few information panzers down to explain the benefits of a yes vote. (My german grandfather gives me an iron in the fire there).
I suppose the alternative is for the Scots to have an annual referendum just to make sure they liked the decision they made last year.
Personally I would like the Scots to go their own way and forge their own future. Not that i shall be there It's far to bloody cold for me. (I'm claiming an iron in the fire there too from my scottish grandma).
Likewise Ireland, although one would think it may happen "organically" as the Catholics must eventually outbreed the protestants anyway. (No irons in the fire there though).
Then merry old (now little) England can say toodle pip and go off into its' own future having tea and scones yelling "tally ho, whilst having wet dreams of past empires.
Just as an aside, I find it rather strange that the opponents of Brexit, who extolled the virtues of being better together, and the dangers of going it alone in the big bad world, now support a Scottish exit.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

You seem to have a strange definition of hypocracy.

At least he can spell it.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

quite right too, disgusting institution and at the centre of all that is wrong with the EU as a whole.

You're a fucking idiot to still go on and on about the EU while your own politicians play you for the fool on a daily basis.

Originally Posted by cyrille

At least he can spell it.

Unlike the journo . . . (you'll have to spell it out for strgshit/npt)

Originally Posted by malmomike77

The UK and the EU will step up their efforts to resolved their post-Brexit row over the Northern Ireland Protocol before Christmas after negotiators failed to reach agreement once again.

^Still on your Kraut crusade of following your select band of posters around. You are like a needy child, desperare for attention.

Stop being a fucking idiot, Harry's phrase, and try to contribute to the thread . . .

You said:

Originally Posted by malmomike77

quite right too, disgusting institution and at the centre of all that is wrong with the EU as a whole.

to:

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Brexit talks to be stepped up before Christmas, as Frost claims UK won’t budge on European court

Why not back it up like an adult instead of your usual whiny whinge

Back up what, that the EU courts have been stepping beyond their remit and making ridiculous laws up. Its an EU institution, all EU institutions are self licking lollies staffed by petty bureaucrats, perhaps that is why you have such an affinity for the EU.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Back up what

The article, your viewpoint to it . . . don't be a fucking idiot . . . again.

Do you think endlessly banging on and repeating "fucking idiot" in every post along with 20 laughing emojis demonstrates your superior intellect. I have said it before but you seem to have forgotten, i'm not here to answer your questions. You latch on like pubic lice. Now tootle off and play with Chico.

The kitchen porter is desperate again

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Do you think endlessly banging on and repeating "fucking idiot"

The shoe fits, npt/strglshit/malmö . . . but then it's meant as a joke, of course. Oh, how we laughed.

Now, the topic is Brexit. Try to stay on it and make some adult observations.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Do you think endlessly banging on and repeating "fucking idiot" in every post along with 20 laughing emojis demonstrates your superior intellect. I have said it before but you seem to have forgotten, i'm not here to answer your questions. You latch on like pubic lice. Now tootle off and play with Chico.

You shouldn't engage with the idiot if you can't take his shit, best to just laugh at the fool, as he goes off and reports posts.

Originally Posted by helge

Agree


I have voted NO to each and every new treaty or such, coming from that direction

Just out of interest:

How many times have your precious Britain asked you for your opinion ?





Just a glance at a globus and even a brit have to aknowledge that the Kingdom of Denmark has more territorial waters than Greater Britania incl The Malvinas




Fucking swedes

Why are they so against the Brits ending destructive bottom trawling on the dogger bank then? A decision that is hailed by environmentalists. Do the Brits tell you guys what to do in your waters?

The EU is a joke, it sits there in Brussels making up rules it expects its trading partners around world to adhere to and all the time neglects to enforce them internally. Of course the bankers in Germany don't care if the surrender monkeys, dagos and mafia flex the rules so long as the club keeps delivering. Hateful institution, rotten to its core.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Why are they so against the Brits ending destructive bottom trawling on the dogger bank then? A decision that is hailed by environmentalists. Do the Brits tell you guys what to do in your waters?

Out of context ?

Can remember posting, but not when

I support you ending trawling in your own waters.

All the way

Why not ?

Your waters, innit ?

Denmark taking the same route


However the buzzards in the fishing industry will try to have their say.

Conservatives, aren't they ?

Conserve !

Originally Posted by malmomike77

The EU is a joke

Yet everyone is laughing at the UK . . . figure that . . .

Originally Posted by malmomike77

it sits there in Brussels making up rules it expects its trading partners around world to adhere to

Try to re-read that bit of idiocy again . . . or just remain a fucking idiot.

About time too - long overdue and put behind us the EU monstrosity ECHR which criminals and lawyers have been abusing for years.

Dominic Raab will announce plans for a British bill of rights

Dominic Raab is to outline a sweeping overhaul of human rights law that he claims will counter “wokery and political correctness” and expedite the deportation of foreign criminals.

The highly controversial reforms, to be announced on Tuesday – which will create a new bill of rights – will introduce a permission stage to “deter spurious human rights claims” and change the balance between freedom of expression and privacy.

But lawyers described the proposed changes to the Human Rights Act as dangerous and fuelled by political rhetoric rather than necessity. They pointed out that the government has signalled its intentions before the independent review of the Human Rights Act, which is due to be published later on Tuesday.

The Ministry of Justice (MoJ) said the intended reforms would allow judges to override rulings from the European court of human rights, rather than following them “blindly”.

It claimed that as many as seven out of 10 successful human rights challenges were brought by foreign national offenders who cited a right to family life in the first instance when appealing against deportation orders – a practice it wants to end.

A senior MoJ source said the government felt strongly that free speech and democratic debate had been whittled away “whether by wokery or political correctness”.

After the Mail on Sunday’s failed appeal over its publication of a letter written by Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, to her estranged father, the source said common-law privacy laws had “come in by the back door” and that freedom of speech needed to be given “extra weight”.

But Stephanie Boyce, president of the Law Society, said any changes to the Human Rights Act should be led by evidence and not driven by political rhetoric.

She said: “British judges deliver British justice based on British laws, looking closely at how judgments fit into the national context, and disapplying them if there is good reason to do so. UK courts do not, as government suggests, ‘blindly’ follow case law from the European court of human rights.

“Equally, foreign criminals already can be deported in the public interest even where there are arguments against this from the right to family life. Every case is different, making it necessary to weigh each on its own particulars. Talk of restricting rights is dangerous and does not reflect the nuanced job the courts have to do.”

The MoJ has highlighted the fight over prisoners’ voting rights, and the requirement for police to issue “threat to life” notices – known as Osman warnings – to gang members as examples of unwelcome interference from Strasbourg.

Without explaining how, the MoJ said its plans would also reduce pull factors to the UK being exploited by people-smugglers facilitating dangerous small boat crossings. But it confirmed that the UK would remain a party to the European convention on human rights.

Martha Spurrier, director at Liberty, highlighted instances of the Human Rights Act helping people achieve justice, including LGBT military veterans getting their medals back after they were stripped of them because of their sexuality, and unmarried women receiving their widow’s pension after the death of their partners.

She described the plans as “a blatant, unashamed power grab,” adding: “Today’s announcement is being cast as strengthening our rights when in fact, if this plan goes through, they will be fatally weakened. This government is systematically shutting down all avenues of accountability through a succession of rushed and oppressive bills. We must ensure the government changes course as a matter of urgency, before we very quickly find ourselves wondering where our fundamental human rights have gone.”

Sacha Deshmukh, the chief executive of Amnesty International, said human rights are not “sweets” ministers can “pick and choose from” and the “aggressive” attempt to “roll-back” the laws needs to be stopped.

He added: “If ministers move ahead with plans to water down the Human Rights Act and override judgments with which they disagree, they risk aligning themselves with authoritarian regimes around the world.”

Prof Philippe Sands QC, who sat on the 2013 commission on a bill of rights, said: “The concern is that this will mark a further step in the government’s eager embrace of lawlessness, undermining the rights of all individuals, the effective role of British judges and the European court, and the devolution settlement into which the Human Rights Act is embedded.”

Adam Wagner, a leading human rights barrister with Doughty Street chambers, said: “If this is to be a true bill of rights, instead of a party political rights wishlist, as this appears to be, the government should obtain cross-party support.”

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/dec/14/raab-to-claim-overhaul-human-rights-law-counter-political-correctness

Originally Posted by malmomike77

About time too - long overdue and put behind us the EU monstrosity ECHR which criminals and lawyers have been abusing for years.

And to think that fucking idiots like you had centuries to do this previously . . . luckily you now have the EU to blame for yet another red herring your pollies throw at you.

Plus, you should really read the article before commenting . . . but you're too much of a fucking idiot to do so, as harry is so fond of saying

Originally Posted by malmomike77

“British judges deliver British justice based on British laws, looking closely at how judgments fit into the national context, and disapplying them if there is good reason to do so. UK courts do not, as government suggests, ‘blindly’ follow case law from the European court of human rights.

It's certainly tough to keep up with the things Mike doesn't like about this agreement he was eagerly in favour of.

And yes, he needs to be a bit more careful when quoting from 'The Guardian'.

I'm well aware of the article and the guardian left wing dogma - its full of quotes from organisations bleating about the days of wine and roses being threatened. Why i chose it.