Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Troy

I guess half the poultry workers suddenly retired after Brexit as well...

And hotel workers…and bar workers…and agriculture…and health…and care home workers…

^ i'm sensing a theme developing

Originally Posted by malmomike77

These times are an appropriate moment to consider the way forward don't you think,

Mildly put

I'm done considering

Originally Posted by malmomike77

aren't we buying too much rubbish

I find it's easier to post it here, Like sound ears Bro, can you almost hear the beloved Lund roar across Øresundsbroen

For nando's any mist dash got some Malmo noodles to udstir

Originally Posted by david44

sound ears

Originally Posted by david44

For nando's

Originally Posted by david44

Lund

Need help, MalmøMicke ?

I've had help, its never helped, now i help others, i can't help myself.

What I find particularly odd, there were an estimated 3.7 million EU citizens in the UK, though more than 6 million qualified and applied for permanent residency/right to remain etc.

Originally Posted by PAG

What I find particularly odd, there were an estimated 3.7 million EU citizens in the UK, though more than 6 million qualified and applied for permanent residency/right to remain etc.

Are there really 6m EU citizens living in the UK?

• 2.8m were granted settled status, generally where people have lived in the UK for a continuous 5-year period (known as ‘continuous residence’);

• 2.3m were granted pre-settled status, granted to European citizens (by this we mean EU, EEA or Swiss citizens) and their non-European family members who have not yet lived in the UK for a continuous 5-year period.

Are there really 6m EU citizens living in the UK? | National Statistical

Also note that third national spouses of UK Nationals wishing to visit the UK also have to apply through this route.

I must say Grant Schapps comes across as a complete freaking idiot....

There is "no shortage of fuel" and people should be "sensible" and fill up only when they need to, Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has said.

It comes as there are long queues and closed pumps at some filling stations.

Mr Shapps blamed the Road Haulage Association for triggering a "rush on petrol stations".




He said he was introducing a "big package" of measures, including temporary visas for HGV drivers, to help the situation. The transport secretary said there was "plenty of fuel" and that he had checked with the six refineries and 47 storage centres in the country.

No fuel shortage, says transport secretary - BBC News





Is he a relative of Deeks?

Running......................out ...........................of..................... ..................petrol.......................and .......................stuffffffff



what are we going to do................................how can we get to shops to spend money on things they have run out of............................we're

doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm eeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddd



fuk em all


time to down scale

Can't wait til these cvnts that run fastshite shops have to shut up coz they have no packing and fat laden shite to sell ....its all going rather well

End to freedom of movement behind UK fuel crisis, says Merkel’s likely successor

The centre-left politician in pole position to replace Angela Merkel as German chancellor has pinpointed the decision to end freedom of movement with Europe after Brexit as the reason for Britain’s petrol crisis.


Olaf Scholz, who is seeking to form a coalition government after the SPD emerged as the biggest party in Germany’s federal elections, said he hoped Boris Johnson would be able to deal with the consequences of the UK’s exit from the EU.


“The free movement of labour is part of the European Union, and we worked very hard to convince the British not to leave the union,” he said.


“Now they decided different, and I hope that they will manage the problems coming from that, because I think it is constantly an important idea for all of us to make it happen that there will be good relations between the EU and the UK, but this is a problem to be solved.”


A number of EU member states, including Germany, have longstanding HGV driver shortages. The most heavily affected countries are Poland (a shortage of 124,000 drivers) and Germany (45,000 to 60,000). But unlike in the UK, companies in the EU have been able to rely on nationals from their neighbours to fill the gaps, and the problems of empty supermarket shelves and panic-buying at petrol station forecourts have been avoided.


On Monday pump prices for fuel in the UK hit an eight-year high as forecourts ran dry, Downing Street faced demands to give ambulance drivers, healthcare staff and other essential workers priority access to fuel, and there were calls for calm as UK fuel suppliers said they expected demand to return to normal “in the coming days”.


The army is being put on standby to help but ministers decided against immediately deploying troops to drive lorries.


It emerged on Monday night that the NHS was being forced to postpone appointments for cancer patients and other people with serious conditions as a result of the fuel crisis.


Several cancer patients due to attend appointments this week at University College hospital, one of London’s largest hospitals, have been told they will have to be rescheduled, the Guardian has learned.


A UCLH spokesperson confirmed that a “small number” of patients were having appointments rearranged, but insisted that no patients requiring urgent treatment would have their treatment delayed.


The fuel crisis has sparked a debate over whether and to what degree Brexit is to blame. Last week Grant Shapps, the transport secretary, said Europe’s driver shortage was equal to or worse than Britain’s, and claimed leaving the EU had helped “provide a solution”.


But Anna Soubry, a former Tory business minister who quit the party over Brexit, said Scholz was right and added: “It’s like something happened to our country and no one is allowed to speak truth to the power of Boris Johnson and his Brexit.”


She said: “We are now facing up to the reality of Brexit. We have got shortages. We are going to have inflation and we are not going to be the country we were before we took this decision. Saying this stuff isn’t criticising the people who voted for it.


“The criticism is levelled at the leaders of the leave campaign … who went out and told lies to the British people and who promised sunlit uplands.”


The shadow justice secretary, David Lammy, blamed a bad Brexit deal and said Labour should make this clear to the public. “This is their [the government’s] deal: this is the consequences,” he said.


“We exited the customs union … hauliers now pay tariffs to come into the country … the incentives to be here aren’t there in the same way.”


A report from Transport Intelligence, a research company specialising in the logistics industry, described the UK as entering a “Bermuda triangle of Brexit, pandemic and tax reforms/peak seasons, leading to a pressing driver shortage in the UK”.


Scholz echoed Johnson’s own explanation for the shortage of drivers in some European countries. He said: “Let me just add it might have to do something with the question of wages … They want to know if it’s something very good for their whole life and if you understand that being a trucker is something which many people really like it to be, and you find not enough [people], this has something to do with working conditions and this has to be thought about.”


The accumulation of problems in the UK in recent weeks – from empty supermarket shelves, gas shortages, a lack of petrol on forecourts and the short supply of CO2 required for services ranging from the running of abattoirs to the production of fizzy drinks – has been seized upon in the European media as being part of the Brexit fallout.


Libération, a French newspaper, ran a front page with an empty toilet paper roll bearing the words: “Brexit: Les lendemains qui déchantent” (The tomorrows that failed to deliver).

According to Transport Intelligence, Brexit made it “legally impossible to recruit foreign HGV drivers”, while the Covid pandemic created a backlog of tests and led to about 15,000 eastern European drivers returning home, many of them for good.


The number of EU nationals driving HGVs in the UK rose from 10,000 to 45,000 between 2010 and 2017, and fell to 42,000 in early 2020. From March to June 2020 the number of EU HGV drivers declined to 25,000, recovering only slightly to 28,000 by the end of the year.


The government has introduced tax changes that Transport Intelligence said had exacerbated the exodus from the UK by obliging all contractors with a turnover of £10m or 50 staff to pay full tax and national insurance on their drivers, starting in April 2021.


Michael Clover, the head of commercial development at Transport Intelligence, said: “It is a perfect storm really. We don’t have the lever of other international drivers to come in like most of Europe so capacity can be shuffled around, because we are no longer in the EU. Poland has for a long time been a net exporter of drivers but you can fill some of those gaps with drivers from Lithuania or Hungary or from Romania, Bulgaria and a few other EU states.”

End to freedom of movement behind UK fuel crisis, says Merkel’s likely successor | Brexit | The Guardian

The blow back begins.

Originally Posted by Joe 90

The BBC manufactured this story by saying don't panic buy on the news at 10 a few days ago, hence all the sheep do the opposite as predicted.

Just as you did with all of your mountains of bog roll and Aunt Bessie's roasties 15 months ago, you massive hypocrite!

Originally Posted by Joe 90

The driver shortage has nothing to do with Brexit!

Keep sticking your fingers in your ears and singing the same old deluded tune, eh?

Originally Posted by Joe 90

lot of older drivers who left the industry after the CPC (certificate of professional competence) qualification was introduced in 2009 had never been replaced.

And with freedom of movement within the EU they would have been replaced before the numbers sank to a critically low level.

What part of that is too complic....ah forget it. You must wear slip on shoes, ffs.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Keep sticking your fingers in your ears and singing the same old deluded tune, eh?

The irony of a remoaner who didn't even vote

You're so out of touch with the UK, have you gone native in Nakhon nowhere ?

The Guardian is totally biased and out of touch with current affairs in the UK, probably why you read it

Originally Posted by bsnub

The blow back begins.

You avin a rusty?

Originally Posted by malmomike77

You avin a rusty?

Originally Posted by panama hat

You're (Brexiteers) your own worst enemy since this whole fiasco started and chest-thumping and flag-waving doesn't help in the real world.

Britain's equivalent to dumb American trumpanzee anti-vaxxers.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Britain's equivalent to dumb American trumpanzee anti-vaxxers.

No comparison or similarity whatsoever!

I didn't know you played the trombone

Originally Posted by Joe 90

No comparison or similarity whatsoever!

You keep telling yourself that.

Originally Posted by Joe 90

I didn't know you played the trombone

No idea what you are blathering on about.

I thought you was the voice of America not Great Britain.

I find it interesting that the most vociferous remainers don’t even have a dog in this fight. Cyril, Snub and PH have no intention of visiting, or settling in the UK, yet they insist on having a go at Chitty, who actually lives there.

He sees and experiences the daily effects of Brexit and Covid, but his detractors deny his opinions as if they lived there, or even cared deeply about whatever the outcome might be.

Sad, very sad bored people.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Britain's equivalent to dumb American trumpanzee anti-vaxxers.

You do come out with some really dumb uninformed comments on occasion snubby and this is one of them. You do make some good comments on U.S. subjects when you are not denigrating people but Brexit? Most of your breathen would have trouble knowing where Britain actually is let alone any understanding of European politics. Hatty does let his Germanic bias come to the fore although some small part of of the problem is probably caused by Brexit. That was inevitable especially with the clusterfuck agreement agreed to by the Brits.
A combination of ridiculous study qualifications, increased production after covid, an aging demogaphic in combination with other factors including a lack of cheap eastern european labour caused by Brexit are the main causes. This driver shortage is also starting to affect the E.U.
Like many western countries (including Australia) you will soon need a PHD in waste management to empty dustbins.
If the Brits had taken a leaf out of The Aussie horders hand book there would be plenty of petrol, but unfortunately no dunny rolls.
To save you asking I have lived and worked in Europe Asia and Africa.

IRU survey: Europe’s driver shortage to rise by 10% in 2021 | trans.info