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    Indeed the futures bright for Brexit Britain.


    Swapping Pattaya for Prestatyn

    Better quality sausages as well, it's all good Sausages.

    Genticles and his wingman can spend their twilight years shuffling along the promenade to Rhyll and back sneering at the inbred locals with foreign Scouse dialects . Partake in a portion of fish and chips then shuffle back steadying themselves with their free NHS Zimmer frames.
    How romantic, every cloud has a silver lining hey SA?.
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    Shalom

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    On the bright side SA can get into Pontins now, which is probably more his style.
    Highly recommended by speccy joe, on this very forum.

    Apparently he walked away with the knobbly knees trophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Yes, wanky's little table supported your points nicely.
    It would have helped if you had the sense to read to the end of it. By the way, if I add a random N to your name it becomes cnyrille.

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    The debts are piling up higher than ever but trade is falling as the barriers raised by the HMRC at the behest of the ERG Tory loons begin to bite. Disposable incomes subsidised by welfare now extended another six months will do little to bolster the Brexit fantasies soon to be dashed by tax rises and inflation fuelled by increases in imports driven by those bureaucratic duties not seen for nigh on 50 years. Still, in the short term there are benefits....sort of. The pork glut caused by the fettered trade so vaunted by Gove has seen prices plummet in the UK as producers abandon all hope in salvaging a viable business out of pig rearing. Feast now, famine later as they go bankrupt.

    Nice to see the fishing industry collapse though not least because it was Bozo and Gove's cause celebre in championing Brexitania. Truly, a fish rots from the head down. Har,har.

    I wonder when those TD ditch digging oiks, currently held hostage in Blighty to Brexit fortunes and mouldering away in their cookie-cutter dreary suburban ghettoes, will finally escape to Thailand where we poor unfortunates living in feckless indolence eke out our existence sustained by pensions many can never hope to reap as they toil on the factory floors of their inadequacy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    trade is falling as the barriers raised by the HMRC at the behest of the ERG Tory loons begin to bite.
    Do you have any statistics to back up your miserable rhetoric?

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    Since when have Brexit morons been concerned with facts and truth, you idiot?

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    Brexit hits German exports to the UK

    The German statistics office said exports from Germany to the UK fell by almost a third in January, pointing to Brexit and the coronavirus pandemic as key drivers of the biggest slump since the 2009 financial crisis.


    DeStatis, Germany's Federal Statistics Office, said it was the highest year-on-year decline for any month since the financial and economic crisis in 2009 when exports fell by 17%.

    The report also said that since 2016 — the year of the Brexit referendum — German exports to the United Kingdom have steadily declined. Last year, German companies exported goods and services worth €66.9 billion, In 2015, that figure was €89 billion.

    Brexit hits German exports to the UK | News | DW | 02.03.2021

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    Indeed, the fall reflects the reduction in purchasing power by the British struggling to adapt to a return to the past.

    Growth has stagnated and the prospects are grim indeed.

    Only a totally deranged idiot still believes that ERG claptrap about sun-dappled uplands and prancing unicorns.

    Nah, the future for Engerlandia is debt, stagflation, unemployment and a growing insignificance.

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    I don't think anyone on here has ever advanced an argument suggesting that BREXIT would be economically advantageous for any remaining member state of the EU.

    Well maybe butterfluffer, but he was plainly a clueless troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Indeed, the fall reflects the reduction in purchasing power by the British struggling to adapt to a return to the past.

    Growth has stagnated and the prospects are grim indeed.

    Only a totally deranged idiot still believes that ERG claptrap about sun-dappled uplands and prancing unicorns.
    Deranged idiots that know far more than you.


    • UK could be the fastest growing G7 economy up to 2050, with average annual growth of 1.9%


    • Remaining open to talented workers and developing successful trade links with fast-growing emerging economies will be critical to realising the UK’s long-term growth potential
    • World economy projected to double by 2042, growing at average annual rate of 2.5% to 2050
    • By 2050, six of the seven world’s largest economies will be emerging markets - led by China
    • India could overtake US as world’s second largest economy, with Indonesia in fourth place
    • EU27’s share of world GDP could fall below 10% by 2050 - France out of the top-10 and Italy out of top 20
    • The UK’s long-term economic growth could outpace leading EU countries like Germany, France and Italy, even despite some medium-term drag from Brexit, according to new analysis by PwC. PwC’s The World in 2050 report forecasts that by 2050, the UK will have fallen by just one place from 9th to 10th in global economy rankings, measured by purchasing power parity (PPP) [see Notes for PPP definition].


    If measured instead by GDP at market exchange rates, the UK could fall from 5th to 9th place by 2050, but by either measure will remain a top-10 global economy. With potential average annual growth of around 1.9%, the UK is projected to remain the fastest growing economy in the G7 between 2016 and 2050. The UK’s position is sustained by its projected larger working-age share of the population than in most other advanced economies. However, PwC cautions that this strong growth potential depends on the UK continuing to attract and employ talented people from around the world.


    PwC emphasises the importance of building strong political and trading relationships with new, emerging economies. Regardless of the outcome of the EU referendum, these economies were going to become dominant global economic forces, eclipsing many EU members and therefore essential to the UK’s ultimate long-term economic growth.

    China has already overtaken the USA to become the world’s largest economy in PPP terms and will move further ahead by 2050. India currently sits in third place and is projected to overtake the US by 2050.


    By 2050, Indonesia is expected to have moved up the rankings to fourth place, overtaking not just Germany and Japan but also Brazil and Russia. Germany and the UK remain in the top-10, but France falls to 12th place and Italy to 21st as it is overtaken by a succession of faster-growing emerging economies like Vietnam.


    PwC projects that the world economy will double in size by 2042, growing at an average annual rate of just over 2.5% between 2016 and 2050, with growth expected to be driven largely by emerging market and developing countries. The E7 economies of Brazil, China, India, Indonesia, Mexico, Russia and Turkey are forecast to grow at an annual average rate of 3.5% over the next 34 years, compared to an average of just 1.6% for the advanced G7 nations of the US, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, the UK and Japan.


    According to PwC, that means that the E7 could comprise almost 50% of world GDP at PPPs by 2050, while the G7’s share could decline to just over 20%. But emerging economy growth will also slow down over the period, as these economies mature and the scope for relatively easy ‘catch-up growth’ by importing advanced economy technologies is reduced over time.


    PwC says these global shifts in economic power provide key policy messages for the UK and its devolved regions. Assuming continued access to EU markets post-Brexit, and ignoring the opportunities - and the challenges - offered by emerging markets would be a mistake. Even if the UK had voted to remain in the EU, it would have been necessary to look to these emerging markets for the next wave of growth.

    The relative shift in the position of the global top-10 economies between 2016 and 2050 is summarised below:

    Projected global GDP rankings in PPP terms (US $bn at constant 2016 values)







    Projected global GDP rankings in PPP terms (US $bn at constant 2016 values)






    Last edited by Wakey; 03-03-2021 at 10:16 PM.

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    It’s yet another projection. A forecast just like those produced by SA. The difference being, his forecasts come from bewildering dreams of political, economic and financial fantasy, encouraged by his personal hatred of anyone who does not share his view.
    The only statistics and evidence he can produce come from his broken brain.
    PWC might be wrong, but SA has a diminishing supply of outright lies and hatred, so any forecast he makes I’d totally superfluous. The predicted parity with the US dollar and stifling being prime among those false forecasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    PWC might be wrong
    Nobody knows what will happen. A virus could emerge in China in 2025 that wipes out half its population. The US might suffer nuclear strikes by terrorists in 2028.

    The UK is doing what the people voted for, and like anyone who is unsure of whether to quit their boring job to set up the business they always dreamed of running, they're trying a new approach. You wouldn't want to be SA's neighbour and do such a thing or you're likely to hear years of abuse shouted through the apartment's dividing wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakey View Post
    Nobody knows what will happen. A virus could emerge in China in 2025 that wipes out half its population. The US might suffer nuclear strikes by terrorists in 2028.

    The UK is doing what the people voted for, and like anyone who is unsure of whether to quit their boring job to set up the business they always dreamed of running, they're trying a new approach. You wouldn't want to be SA's neighbour and do such a thing or you're likely to hear years of abuse shouted through the apartment's dividing wall.
    My views are not based on wild predictions, or even cogent factual statistics, just truth and facts. My personal view is that the EU and the EC in particular, continue to believe their own rhetoric and cannot see the impending failure of its further drive to cement socialist institutions imbued with even greater power.
    To them, the vaccine debacle means they need to be given even greater powers, to combat the current malaise of every member state having a say, thereby slowing the response of such a monolithic and unweildy institution.
    They seek greater control, not devolved powers of member states. After decades of attempting reform from within, the UK decided to leave and go it alone.

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    The EU is on a one way trip to becoming a federal socialist state, a 21st century version of the soviet union. Thankfully it will never arrive at its intended destination.

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    And here we have it, finally. A multi-nicking Wankey outs himslf as the loony Kipper, a cult member of the Faragist mob manufacturing a fantasy out of a weird hypocritical prejudice ( Farage a committed Brexiteer was also a committed member of the EP earning a considerable stipend ) that the EU is an unelected quasi closet political force within a socio-economic association answerable to no-one but the planet Zog.

    So which one are you, Wankey?

    The amusing thing about Wankey's daft delusions is that the " socialist " leaning politicians within the EU member states consider the EU to be the bastion for conservative corporatism, a view that was in fact shared by Corbyn for most of his life.

    So Wankey, when will the elections for an EU federal government giving primacy over all member states' legislatures take place, you silly arse?
    Still, I rather thought this United States of Europe fantasy peddled by dopy Brits went the way of the egregious lies by Farage claiming Turkey was soon to join the EU.

    You're a bore Wankey, a silly old bore venting out of your arse vapid rhetoric from the cultist catechism of the deranged and the stupid.

    Bokendownberxitbritain is facing a decade and more of economic doldrums and diminishing global significance.

    And when the Union fractures and both Scotland and NI leave, it will be even more irrelevant and little more than an adjunct to the USA, like one of those parasitic scavenging fish one sees feeding off a larger creature.

    All hail Engerwal, the bastard creation of Engerlandia and its benefit principality, Wales.
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    But we've still got our potatoes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    But we've still got our potatoes.
    and your fish. Fish & Chips, anyone?

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    Looking forward to this.

    Brussels accuses UK of ‘violating’ Brexit deal and threatens legal action

    Brussels has pledged legal action after ministers announced plans to unilaterally change a part of the Northern Ireland Brexit deal to better suit British businesses.

    The move would extend a ‘grace period’ designed to allow UK supermarkets and suppliers time to adapt to new trade barriers across the Irish Sea.


    But Maros Sefcovic, vice president of the European Commission, said that would be a “violation” of the protocol agreed with the UK.


    He also warned it would be the “second time that the UK government is set to breach international law”, following a similar row last year.


    In a statement the European Commission said Sefcovic would inform Lord Frost, the minister who helped negotiate the Brexit deal, that it would “respond to these developments in accordance with the legal means established by the Withdrawal Agreement and the Trade and Cooperation Agreement.”


    It added that the EU had “strong concerns over the UK’s unilateral action, as this amounts to a violation of the relevant substantive provisions of the Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland and the good faith obligation under the Withdrawal Agreement.


    “This is the second time that the UK government is set to breach international law.


    “This also constitutes a clear departure from the constructive approach that has prevailed up until now, thereby undermining … the mutual trust necessary for solution-oriented cooperation.”


    The grace period – a temporary relaxation of checks – had been due to expire at the end of this month.


    At that point supermarkets in Northern Ireland, which have struggled with supply problems since the government’s Brexit deal came into force on 1 January, had expected to see their woes worsen.


    But Northern Ireland secretary Brandon Lewis said the government would be “taking several temporary operational steps to avoid disruptive cliff-edges as engagement with the EU continues through the Joint Committee”.


    Controversially he announced the new grace period would continue until at least 1 October.


    Ministers had asked the EU to extend the grace period until 2023, but Brussels had declined to do so so far.


    Like Brussels, the Irish government has also criticised the UK government’s plans, branding them “deeply unhelpful”.


    Irish foreign affairs minister Simon Coveney said unilaterally continuing the grace period undermined the UK’s commitment to the protocol.


    He said: “A unilateral announcement is deeply unhelpful to building the relationship of trust and partnership that is central to the implementation of the protocol.”

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    Fuck brussels and the squealing garlic munching jobsworths et al that populate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Fuck brussels and the squealing garlic munching jobsworths et al that populate it.
    Fuck signed agreements, eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by strigils View Post
    Irish foreign affairs minister Simon Coveney said unilaterally continuing the grace period undermined the UK’s commitment to the protocol.
    and it is not the first time either.
    Bodes well for the continuing negotiation about an extended trade deal between Britain and EU...

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    Thank goodness for the Pikeys, great excuse to pop back to the table or walk away like we should have in the first place.

    Brexit news – live: EU shelves vote on trade deal over UK ‘violation’


    EU shelves Brexit deal vote after UK ‘violates’ agreement


    The EU has shelved plans to approve the Brexit deal because it believes the UK has “violated” the agreement.


    The decision comes after the UK said it would extend grace periods for Irish Sea border checks to help British businesses.


    “The conference of presidents this morning decided not to agree a date to ratify the TCA, pending developments yesterday,” one EU source told The Independent.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-live-budget-boris-johnson-b1812300.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Fuck brussels and the squealing garlic munching jobsworths et al that populate it.
    Here, here

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    The Titanic musicians are in full song....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    Here, here
    Where, where?

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    Tear up the TCA! WTO rules! WTO rules!

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