Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

As opposed to a rural bothy in a jungle clearing amid tribesmen scarcely able to conceive of a world outside their ignorance which is worth little more than the gold in the village elder's teeth.

The simple truth is of course nothing is selling in the LoS for an acceptable price in the current market but at least such illiquidity can be gauged as temporary whereas a commitment to the boonies is permanent and of no value other than as a place to die in peace.

Enjoy.

I have never bought/built anything that I cannot afford to walk away from. Whereas you seem to have. You'll be long time dead by the time the condo market picks up but don't worry your wingman will cash it in on your demise to the first buyer who puts in an offer. All your hard earned investment will then be squandered on her groveling relatives when she moves back up to Isaan cuz that is where her heart is. Better a worthless wooden shack in the boonies than a worthless concrete box in that cess pit Pattaya. Har Har Har

Another good news Brexit story today that Nissan is staying put in the UK securing 80k jobs by taking advantage of the zero tariffs

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

I don't wish to seem heartless, Prag, but all you bought in that jungle clearing was a living cemetery plot.

Har Har Har. Nice comeback.

Brexit British are quite simply too stupid to comprehend that in addition to ending free movement they have voted to return to the past when international trade, free from quotas or otherwise, was fettered by customs and excise controls and encompassed commerce between the UK and the Continent.

Trade costs as a consequence will increase on average about 30% for SMEs and of course this will be passed onto the consumer, or if competitiveness is to be retained then profits must be reduced to absorb said costs. Either way businesses will fail. As I said earlier, over 32% of trade exports are accounted for by SMEs contributing over £200 billions annually to GDP.

Welcome to the past, you dumbos.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Brexit British are quite simply too stupid to comprehend that in addition to ending free movement they have voted to return to the past when international trade, free from quotas or otherwise, was fettered by customs and excise controls and encompassed commerce between the UK and the Continent.

Trade costs as a consequence will increase on average about 30% for SMEs and of course this will be passed onto the consumer, or if competitiveness is to be retained then profits must be reduced to absorb said costs. Either way businesses will fail. As I said earlier, over 32% of trade exports are accounted for by SMEs contributing over £120 billions annually to GDP.

Welcome to the past, you dumbos.

Yet more sweeping generalizations and assumptions based on nothing more than another scheme that you backed, has failed and been rejected.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

So, in what sense does ripping up EU red tape, "no more rule taking from the beastly furriner", and storming the world's markets with freewheelin' buccaneering mercantilism spread by the new Brexitannic economic imperialism, begin with the creation of a mountain of British red tape costing on average £15 billions to access a previous unfettered market of 500 million consumers in 27 states only 22 miles distant and which accounts for over £250 billions worth of trade representing 13% of Britain's total GDP including 49% of its entire manufacturing output?

You really are little more than a susurration of fanny fart, Chas.

Papers today are full of the chaos and mounting losses by SMEs desperate to return to the days of that " EU rule taking", businesses that apparently have been advised by Gove et al to set up businesses in the ..........EU.

The irony would be delicious if it were not for the fact the doltish English are too fucking stupid to appreciate it.

At least the septics saw the insanity of Trumpery and got rid, the UK has four more years of these Bozo clowns.

Poor Chas, so stupid and so little time.

Why bother editing the post, when it’s blatantly obvious that you just cut and paste the same crap you posted 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 months ago?

You are a whining repetitive loser, who insists on boring the pants off everyone with this silliness. Surely there’s a help group for desperate crying, loser, remain supporters, so they can commiserate with each other?

Originally Posted by Switch

Why bother editing the post, when it’s blatantly obvious that you just cut and paste the same crap you posted 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 months ago?

You are a whining repetitive loser, who insists on boring the pants off everyone with this silliness. Surely there’s a help group for desperate crying, loser, remain supporters, so they can commiserate with each other?

I'm sure he will stop crying when he gets his nice new blue passport.

The bill for Boris Johnson’s Brexit is coming in and it’s punishingly steep | Brexit | The Guardian


You will recall that it was one of the Brexiters’ signature promises that departure from the EU would be a liberating moment. A buccaneering free trade Britain would flourish as wealth creators were unshackled from the stifling regulatory chains of Brussels. What Brexit has actually done is impose a vast amount of cumbersome and costly new bureaucracy on exporters and importers. British companies have been put in a chokehold of regulations, customs declarations, conformity assessments, health and rules-of-origin certifications, VAT demands and inflated shipping charges. While some ministers talk about reducing worker protections in the name of “cutting red tape”, a move for which there is little demand even from employers, Brexit is ensnaring British businesses in writhing snakes of the stuff. I guess Jacob Rees-Mogg, he who thinks that fish unable to reach EU markets are “happier” knowing they are British, will claim that struggling British exporters should be patriotically proud to be throttled by red, white and blue tape.


Multinationals are not complaining so much because they are often wary of picking a fight with government and have resources, staff and facilities that make them better able to cope. The greatest burdens of Brexit are falling on smaller enterprises, collectively employing a lot of people, who trade with Europe. As my colleague Toby Helm reports in this newspaper, they are hurting badly. The post-Brexit world is so tough for many that the government’s own trade specialists are advising afflicted British entrepreneurs to relocate some of their operations out of the UK and to the EU. This has to be one of the greater absurdities of Brexit. British companies are being told by the British government that the way to survive is to lay off British workers and transfer their jobs to folk across the Channel.


Ministers like to insist that we’re experiencing nothing worse than “teething problems” as exporters and importers come to terms with the most radical change to the way we have traded with our neighbours since Margaret Thatcher pioneered the creation of the single market more than 30 years ago. For sure, snafus and bottlenecks at borders caused by faulty documentation may be smoothed out over time as companies become accustomed to dealing with so many complex new procedures. But a lot of these problems are not temporary rites of passage into a brave new world – these are permanent liabilities. A massive increase in border friction and all the expense that comes with it are baked-in consequences of Mr Johnson’s Brexit. The thicket of bureaucracy imposed on companies means enduring and added costs for their businesses. It does not feel like “teething problems” to them. It is more like root canal surgery performed without any benefit of anaesthetic. This was a predictable – and predicted – result of wrenching the UK out of the single market and the customs union. Thinktanks, some politicians, some business leaders and some newspapers, including this one, warned about the job-costing and investment-sapping consequences of erecting high new barriers to trade. But it is fair to say that this issue was never front and centre of the arguments that raged about Brexit. Evangelists for the adventure tended to dismiss the impacts on companies as mere minutiae compared with immigration levels or the meaning of sovereignty. Remainers struggled to find ways to make technical-sounding issues matter to the public. Among many voters and many politicians, the great benefits of being inside the single market were taken for granted right up until the moment when they vanished.


Some did understand that there would be a price to be paid. One of them was Boris Johnson. He knew enough about the importance of this issue to fib about it. On Christmas Eve, when he was hailing his agreement with the EU as a fantastic new chapter in our island story, he claimed that “there will be no non-tariff barriers to trade”.


This was self-evidently untrue even at the time that he said it. His government accepts that companies will collectively need to employ 50,000 additional customs agents in a post-Brexit world. Industry figures suggest that less than a quarter of that number had been trained by the time Britain left the single market.


The HMRC estimates that Brexit demands that British companies complete 215m additional, often highly complex, documents a year with a mirroring amount of extra paperwork also being generated by EU counter-parties. The cost of that alone on British businesses is thought to be around £7bn a year. If you make exporting and importing more difficult and more sluggish, at the same time as making cross-border transactions a great deal more costly, then it stands to reason that there will be less trade.


Faced with the heavy burdens imposed by Brexit, some companies will stop exporting to the EU because they can no longer find any profit in it. Other companies will move elements of their operations – and, in some cases, all of their business – out of the UK to inside the EU. Investment, jobs and tax revenues that would have benefited the UK will in future go to countries in the EU instead. This is already happening. Other companies will simply find that Brexit has left them unviable. Overwhelmed by the new costs, they will go to the wall. That will be especially so for those who were already struggling to survive because of the coronavirus crisis.


British business lost to European competitors. British entrepreneurs crushed. British jobs exported abroad. Welcome to the Brexit.

I have read this thread from when it started and like most political threads its very polarising, if you were in a bar you wouldn't keep batting this back and forth for 5 minutes but on here angry men with no toehold in the UK seem to have spent 4 years hanging on to their anger making not the slightest difference to the democratic result.

It does have one thing going for it, i think some posters should worry about Alzheimers, they keep forgetting they post the same lines daily, weekly, monthly.

It would be a pretty weird world if discussing this made a difference to the result.

Are you feeling OK?

I am OK, i have accepted the result and I am looking forward to the future not complaining and i live in the UK.

Well Cyrille you've spent 4 years trying to convince everyone who voted leave they were wrong so you must have thought you could influence it or was that just wasted hot air.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ Just pointing out the basic flaws of voting for Brexit and the underlying deceit in the Brexit campaign.

All water under the bridge now, just watching the results of the decision.

I love the call for "taking back our sovereignty"...and then losing it with NI being subject to EU controls.

Then there's the huge savings that will be made that have resulted in it costing even more and getting less in return.

It's comedy gold...

..... only if you believe the obvious political bias that created, and continues to extrapolate “ protect fear” now that the projects future has been decided.

Chas, so, is it "Project Fear" that has postponed the coming of Bozo's golden unicorns prancing gaily amid sun-dappled uplands in wondrous celebration of the new Brexitannic economic era of plenty now Engerlandia has broken free of the clutches of the evil EU Dark Empire or is it the cold, dark, uncompromising reality that turning the clock back 48 years to dinosaur Tory time was a fucking tragic mistake manipulated by charlatans bamboozling the stupid, the gormless and the merely fuckwitted, a demographic so ably represented by your own dribbling good self?

The thing is, distasteful though it may be to Brexit loons, their stupidity and gullibility in following the doctrine of xenophobia establishing the cult of Brexitism as a form of government is merely repeating the mistakes of fascism manifested by the nazis. That ghastly jingoistic nationalism founded on racism and bigotry is a but a delusion distracting the lumpen mob from the dreary reality they have sold themselves to a bunch of snake oil pedlars, charlatans and two-bit opportunists exploiting the masses.

Originally Posted by Switch

Why bother editing the post, when it’s blatantly obvious that you just cut and paste the same crap you posted 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 months ago?

You are a whining repetitive loser, who insists on boring the pants off everyone with this silliness. Surely there’s a help group for desperate crying, loser, remain supporters, so they can commiserate with each other?

Err, the thread is a debate on the issues flowing from the Brexit referendum, you fucking idiot. What else would one post? The state of your fucking prostate?

We, the intelligent of the forum, admittedly a small group that could convene in a fucking telephone kiosk given the rampant stupidity evidently manifested by the majority, are merely rehearsing the myriad pitfalls and general idiocy of the Bozo Brexit regime now apparent in Engerlandia. That this may well involve some repetition merely suggests that we maintain a constancy and steadfastness in resisting the siren calls summoning you fuckwits to your economic and social doom.

Anyway, it's fun rubbing your wee snouts into the pile of shite that Farage et al dumped on you all.

It's a fucking mess and you look very, very stupid but you simply can't accept it that you were very, very wrong. That ain't rain falling on your back, you idiot, it's Brexit piss.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

manipulated by charlatans bamboozling the stupid, the gormless and the merely fuckwitted, a demographic so ably represented by your own dribbling good self?

. That ghastly jingoistic nationalism founded on racism and bigotry is a but a delusion distracting the lumpen mob from the dreary reality they have sold themselves to a bunch of snake oil pedlars, charlatans and two-bit opportunists exploiting the masses.

Seems universal suffrage caused this. But you won't go there will you...

Stupidity caused it. You foster ignorance and prejudice through propaganda spewed relentlessly by vested interests and in the end any monster or slime ball will succeed at the expense of the just, the good and the civilised.

Nazis, Brexiteers, Trumpanzees, they're all the fucking same.

Originally Posted by strigils

I am looking forward to the future not complaining and i live in the UK.

That is some kind of feat, admittedly.

You seem a bit simple, so that probably helps.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

So, which re-invented wanker are you?

My money's on Numpty.

And he thinks discussing things here is done in order to influence the vote?

How dim is that? Gotta be a BREXITer.