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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    poor old s.a.

    marooned and miserable in tumbleweed town, yelling at the clouds along with the few other hoary old expats who burnt their bridges, unable to use the facilities in their condos that their monthly service charges entitle them to, and regarded as nothing more than disease spreading lepers by a local populace brainwashed as they have been by a military dictatorship that views all foreigners as filthy, unwashed, untrustworthy and unwelcome interlopers into their precious utopian kingdom.

    now they about to be fleeced yet again by ever more expensive and draconian regulations that will ensure that they are tested, monitored and recorded before being allowed to move around the kingdom, apps and police checkpoints following their every move like criminals in an exercise yard. preparations are already underway to make visa and health insurance requirements even more burdensome for the put upon alien residents and immigration officials are rubbing their hands in glee at the opportunities for financial gain this presents to them. just as well that the collapse of the pound that has supposedly been imminent for the past 5 years has not happened.

    a truck driver dealing with a bit more paperwork at dover and calais will have it easy compared to the travails awaiting long suffering expats in post covid thailand.


    Seekingasylum getting beat at his own game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    there cannot be winners without losers
    There goes the concept of 'Win-Win'

    Should I edit ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    s.a.




    for fucks sake man. give it a rest, enough already. this is teak door, not the barbara cartland appreciation society.

    you'll be giving us a dark and stormy night next

    and its pattaya. where you are more likely to encounter the overpowering stench of raw sewage and trip over flyblown desiccated dogturds than be caressed by the cooling zephyrs conjured up by your fevered imagination.
    Poor Tax, getting stir crazy in his wee eyrie locked down in a festering rancid swamp of contagion waiting for a Spring he hopes will release him to flee northern squalid Brexitania with its teeming, lumpen, ugly, whey-faced, unemployed and unemployable masses to return to his Hua Hin backwater that he fears he may never see again with an embattled and overwhelmed NHS that will cast his life aside like an empty husk of no value in favour of a younger northern lout who qualifies more under the lottery of Brexit death for a ventilator.

    Never mind Tax, the wingman can spread your ashes over that paradisal Takiab strand cooled by those tropical zephyrs rustling through the waving palms you may never see again.
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    As previously mentioned, once you're on a ventilator you have a worse than 20% chance anyway.

    But you'll keep on banging out the line...it's what you do.

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    Somewhat amusingly, the impact of Brexit induced bureaucracy operated by the HMRC and created by Gove et al in their doctrinal fanatacism to exit the customs union and single market is now being felt evermore keenly by those who had most to fear from quitting the EU i.e British traders. By the way, let it be known this was desired by the Tories since October 2016 when the ERG nutters prevailed on the sclerotic May to announce quitting the CU and SM was, next to ending Free Movement, the main aim of 'taking back control'.

    Anyway, as we have now seen the dozy British fishermen, never the brightest demographic, are having to dispose of 20% of their catch because of the delay in negotiating the new HMRC protocols, never mind the erosion of profits as the eternal truth, time means money, begins to expose the stupidity of Tory/Kipper dogma. And I see from today's Guardian report, a British wine trader and importer is facing ruination as he now experiences the consequences of Bozo Johnson's cri de coeur when told the problems of re-erecting trade barriers to traders and commerce generally, " fuck business".

    But hey, listen up, one and all, didn't Bozo announce to the world that we should all be like Singapore and learn to trade our way to economic excellence in the new Brexitania where dancing on sunlit uplands will be the new norm.

    So, how is it that the Tory/Kippr nutters will achieve this when they have just re-erected the very obstacles that were dismantled 48 years ago in a bid to facilitate trade between the UK and its neighbouring states merely 22 miles distant? How does one actually begin this new campaign of the addled Bozo to straddle the world like some economic colossus when his very first act is to return custom and excise barriers between Brexitania and its neighboring market of 500 millions in 27 states??

    Pretty big conundrum if you ask me, a fucking huge one actually and bit of a bugger when one considers that the trade with the EU accounted for 49% of Britain's manufacturing output.

    And to think, 17.6 million idiots actually believed the utter bollox spewed by the Kipper/Tory loons that Britain would be richer and more wondrous by fucking up trade with those foreigners 22 miles away.

    Stupidest thing ever but then, " you don't get thicker than a Brexshit Kipper !"

    But in the end we all know cui bono from all this, eh? Yep, all those hedge fund, carpetbagging tax evaders desirous of protecting their wealth in all those havens and of course tinpot, trading city states that shroud their money-grubbing in secrecy, such as, well, Singapore.

    Poor Tax and Prag, and not to mention all the other TD addled fuckwits, how awful must it be with your pointy little heads shoved so far up your arses.

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    ^how does all this deeply divisive anger, affect poor retired civil servants who are stuck in Thailand’s sin city, with not a hope of escape?

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    It's not about individuals, switch, haven't you worked that out yet?

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    He might understand better if you try it like this...

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    It's not, about individuals switch haven't, you worked that out, yet?

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    Individual remainers continue to complain about issues, over which they have absolutely no control. How sad.

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    Pursuing the theme of how Brexit is unfolding in a manner that persistently gives lie to the vacuous rhetoric spouted by its shills deluding the lumpen morons who so credulously lapped it up like gormless sheep, the Tory majority in the Commons has just rejected an amendment to the Trade Bill in which ministers would have to seek parliamentary approval before changing regulations upon the importation and production of foodstuffs. So much for their fucking sovereignty then, EU MEPS had this right as indeed do US Congress members but it seems that Tory ministers have refused British MPs the same right thus giving individual ministers free rein to reduce standards without any recourse to any authority other than their own.

    Take back control, my arse, they're turning Brexitania into a right wing fiefdom of political self interest pandering to the needs of corporate profit making at the expense of the consumer.

    And we warned all the sad English saps that dwell within the lower end that this was the ethos behind Brexit, the dismantling of standards to bolster capitalism at the expense of Joe Public's health, working practices and opportunities outside the parochial world of a Brexitania that is being created to serve the Tory money grubbers and their hedge fund puppet masters.

    I said this was the whole point of the Brexit coup years ago but you simply cannot educate the English lower end.

    Pretty soon the English will be swimming in their own shit, raising it, importing it and eating it.

    But one thing is for sure, there's no fucking way the English food processing industry is going to sell it to the 500 million consumers on the Continent.

    It really is a return to the glorious 60s when the English vented all their sewers into the sea, they were the poor men of Europe, import/export controls throttled trade and quality was something for the 'toffs' to whom the lower end touched its forelock and grovelled.

    And what of the brave new fishing industry of Engerlandia? Prices have already collapsed, exports are thwarted by Brexit controls at the border and catches are getting dumped into the rotting pit of the Brexit lies and propaganda only a fucking idiot would have believed in the first plaice ( har, har, geddit?). It's such a fucking success that the Brexit Bozo government is having to subsidise it by another £26 million just to save it for another couple of months. What did the fat clown say, oh yes, " Britain will prosper mightily" as it straddles the globe with its trading prowess......not through fucking public subsidies it won't.

    NI has already said that it was sold down the river and fucked by Bozo, and the road hauliers of the UK have told the world that the fuckup at the borders is not because of COVID but because of the Brxit trade controls imposed by loony Gove and the ERG group.

    £5 billion got traded out of the City in the first week of Brexit Britain to the EU institutions .........oops, was that the Big Bang heralded by Rishi the other day?

    So, where is the fucking benefit, eh Chas, eh Tax, eh any one of you Brexit bozo Kippers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    So, where is the fucking benefit, eh Chas, eh Tax, eh any one of you Brexit bozo Kippers?
    Don't hold your breath, eh?

    Twitch will be along soon, but only to burble more bizarrely punctuated ad hom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    £5 billion got traded out of the City in the first week of Brexit Britain to the EU institutions
    Christ on a bike, that must have left the City teetering on the brink.


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    Individual remainers continue to complain about issues, over which they have absolutely no control. How sad. Your superiority extends to your political impotence. Har fucking har.
    Im beginning to think that Guardian c&p is preferable to SA and his hate filled polemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Christ on a bike, that must have left the City teetering on the brink.

    You stupid fuck, it's but just the first instalment on the £30 billions the City is going to lose unless Bozo sucks some serious EU cock to get passporting rights back on its services.

    You Brexit chancres are truly, quite, quite dim.

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    So, where is the fucking benefit,
    just read on old boy. we are at last, for better or worse, masters of our own fate and thankfully out of a german dominated and controlled europe, that will bring the whole house of cards toppling down. our trade, our exports, our whole modus operandi will over time adapt and adjust and we will do just fine. necessity is the mother of invention.

    Angela Merkel’s disastrous legacy is Brexit and a broken EU.

    'Mutti' is a canny and tactical politician but leaves a trail of wreckage behind her after running Europe's biggest economy for 16 years

    AMBROSE EVANS-PRITCHARD
    19 January 2021 • 3:00pm
    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard


    Angela Merkel is more responsible for Brexit than any other political figure in Europe, on either side of the Channel. She bears the greatest responsibility for the ‘Japanisation’ and austerity bias of monetary union. She exalts the German mercantilist trade surpluses that render the whole euro project ultimately unworkable.

    We all feel fond of Mutti as she winds down her 16-year reign and ushers in her chosen successor: Armin Laschet, the "continuity candidate" and folksy operator who narrowly won the Christian Democratic leadership contest over the weekend.

    The Chancellor is immensely popular. The low-key style of the vicar’s daughter has caught the German mood. She is one of the few European leaders still trusted over the handling of the pandemic. It is hard to think of any figure in Berlin better able to mask German hegemony and throw a reassuring comfort blanket over Europe.

    But given the blizzard of superlatives over recent days - bordering on hagiography - some dissent is in order. Personality must be separated from policies.

    Her Christian Democrat alliance (CDU-CSU) suffered its biggest defeat since the Second World War in the elections of 2017. The German political landscape fractured. Votes splintered in all directions. The hard-right Alternative fur Deutschland became the official opposition in the Bundestag.


    Merkel held onto power because the two great Volksparteien - Christian Democrats and Social Democrats - clung to each other on the shrinking raft.

    Her own personal standing is not transferable to Mr Laschet, the coal miner’s son still living in the coal age. He opened a new coal-fired plant (Datteln-4) last year, asserting with a straight face and Trumpian surrealism that it would be good for climate change. There goes Europe’s net-zero authority.

    While Merkel has presided over an era of economic outperformance within Europe, it is not a Wirtschaftwunder by global standards. Germany has had one of the slowest growing economies in the OECD over the last quarter-century, slower even than Japan. Productivity growth has averaged 1.2pc annually since 1995, compared to 1.7pc in the US, or 3.9pc in Korea (OECD data).

    Angeline Germany has echoes of the Brezhnev era. The immobilism is remarkable, a point made by both Marcel Fratzscher in Die Deutschland Illusion; and by Die Welt’s Olaf Gersemann in his book The Germany Bubble: the Last Hurrah of a Great Economic Nation.

    The country was for a while able to ride the "China wave" as a supplier of capital goods for Asia. But China’s catch-up phase has since turned into import substitution at home, and mid-technology conquest abroad, more or less destroying the German solar industry in the process.

    Germany has not made the digital switch in time – unlike Korea – and this is becoming existential as cars metamorphose into computers on wheels. Tesla is worth three times as much as VW, Daimler, and BMW combined. Apple dwarfs the entire market capitalisation of the DAX index.

    Deutschland Inc is not worth much any more, a fate it shares with UK Limited. Merkel has presided over this structural decay. It is not her fault but nor has she done anything about it.


    The German economy looks good only within the regional beauty contest of Europe. Others are in worse shape. The deformed structure of monetary union has had the effect of leveraging relative supremacy. Germany gained eurozone competitiveness in the early 2000s through an "internal devaluation". It compressed real wages through the Hartz IV reforms.

    Once southern Europe had slipped behind within the closed deflationary structure of the euro, the only way to claw back ground was to carry out their own internal devaluations, a near impossible task against the German anchor. The effect of hairshirt policies in so many countries at once was to tip the whole system into a contractionary vortex.

    Merkel did not create this structure but she has never questioned it either, or explained to the German people why it has to change. Her government imposed austerity overkill on Club Med through its control over the key bodies in the EU apparatus. The burden of adjustment fell on the debtor states, not the creditors. This cannot work.

    She let the eurozone debt crisis (actually a capital flow crisis) fester for three years before contagion to the Italian and Spanish debt markets forced her hand in June 2012. Only then did she agree to let the European Central Bank assume its role as lender of last resort. It took direct intervention by Barack Obama to extract this concession.

    Merkel then reneged on a summit deal for full banking union. The sovereign-bank "doom loop" remains in place and is even larger today.

    She resisted the necessary move to fiscal union at every stage. When the pandemic hit she agreed to a one-off Recovery Fund that reverts to the status quo ante over time, heading off permanent debt mutualisation. In short, she has spent 16 years refusing to rebuild the euro on workable foundations. Her idea of fiscal union is fiscal surveillance: the Stability Pact, Two Pack, Six Pack, and the Fiscal Compact. She bequeaths a broken system to her successor.


    This mismanagement of monetary union altered British perceptions of the EU before the Brexit Referendum. It also led to the migration of several hundred thousand economic refugees from Southern Europe, and displaced flows from Eastern Europe into the UK. This combined into a perfect storm with Merkel’s precipitous decision to go it alone in 2015 and open the floodgates from the Middle East, ignoring David Cameron’s counsel that the Syrian refugee crisis was best handled in the Levant.

    By then, of course, the Chancellor had already sown the seeds of British exasperation. It began in earnest when she resuscitated the European Constitution – rebranded the Lisbon Treaty – after it had already been rejected by the French and Dutch people in referenda. Her motive was obvious. It increased the German voting weight in the EU institutions.

    This was a legitimate step to reflect Germany’s increased population after East-West reunification. But it also changed the EU’s character. Germany was no longer primus inter pares in an intergovernmental confederacy. It became primus sine pares in a proto-federation. Chalk and cheese.

    France strangely allowed this loss of sacred parity to slip through. Nicholas Sarkozy was fobbed off with a few baubles. Tony Blair pretended it was just a cleaning-up exercise. The treaty was rammed through the EU Council by executive fiat. Nobody wanted to face voters again. Only the Irish were given a referendum. When they voted no, they had their feet held to the fire, and were made to vote again.

    Merkel’s Lisbon Treaty was a watershed moment. It is one thing to advance the project by the Monnet method of stealth, it is another to do so once major proposals have been explicitly rejected by electorates. It further undermined the EU’s legitimacy among a coterie of British politicians, commentators, and financiers, and these people would later matter.

    The treaty gave the European Court of Justice jurisdiction over all areas of EU law for the first time, upgrading it from an economic tribunal into a supreme court. The Charter of Fundamental Rights became legally binding. The ECJ suddenly acquired the means to rule on anything. It has since used that power expansively, as the German constitutional court, ironically, protests with irritation.

    The Common Law protocol in the treaty exempting British courts from such encroachment was ignored before the ink was dry. The European Court began to strike down British laws on criminal procedure or data sharing with the US intelligence agencies. Another slice of influential British opinion peeled away.

    Chancellor Merkel persisted. She circumvented a British veto of the Fiscal Compact, ramming through the treaty by other means, and visibly isolating the Prime Minister. All Britain had asked for was a safeguard clause for the City.

    She installed ultra-integrationist Jean-Claude Juncker as Commission chief against British objections. This violated the Brussels convention that no major state is ever overruled on this key post. She refused a compromise despite warnings from David Cameron that a taste of Junckerism would further erode British consent for the EU, as proved to be the case.

    If it is in Germany’s national interest to keep the UK tied deeply into the European system – and few Germans dispute that – one can hardly argue that she made a good fist of it. She meddled enough with the constitutional machinery of Europe to irritate the British, but not enough to sort out the EU’s real problems or to make monetary union fit for purpose.

    "Mutti" is an admirable person and a canny, tactical politician but she will leave a set of unstable equilibria, a polite way of saying a trail of wreckage. If Laschet is the continuity candidate, Europe needs help.
    Angela Merkel’s disastrous legacy is Brexit and a broken EU

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    ( With a very heavy sigh ) Tax, dear boy, there is nothing written now in that rag by a regular columnist worth more than a spasm of shite shot out of the anus of a hibernating dormouse.

    Now that one Barclay is dead and the other is made unique by his welcome passing, one hopes the Telegraph is sold to an owner who might restore the paper to its former glory rather than let it dribble on as a repository for ageing and/or demented hacks suckling on the teat of corrupt cronyism.

    Brexit is solely a construct of the right wing Tory dinosaurs whose poisonous senescence weaned a new breed of proto-fascists that dispensed with truth in favour ofo utright lies to peddle their doctrine of xenophobic snake oil- jingoistic- nationalism. They fed off a German legacy alright, Goebbels lives and breathes on the current Tory front bench.

    Or, is it that Ambrose Fucktard is trying to tell us that it was Merkel who forced the joint consciousness of 17.6 million English imbeciles to coalesce into a spontaneous movement and rise up to swallow the utter shite spouted by messrs. Farage, Bone, Cash et al?

    Oh, and as another afterthought, is it that Fucktard has forgotten already just how the City came to trade in the Euro? The EU central bankers were dead set against the UK trading in the Euro because thy argued that since it was not a state using the currency it couldn't then trade it within the EU. And who arbitrated on the case when it came to court action??? Yep, that's right, it was the ECJ that ruled in favour of Britain and the City.

    Honestly, that man is a total slime ball and a worthless pundit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Tax, dear boy, there is nothing written now in that rag by a regular columnist worth more than a spasm of shite shot out of the anus of a hibernating dormouse.
    There are some aspects of it that make it worth glancing at occasionally though.


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    It seems to me that, for Seekingass at least, this is more about the cult of personality than it is about facts.

    Anyone who disagrees with him is given a derogatory pet name, an mercilessly attacked with considerable invention. Others might cast the odd grim aside, but not him. He always seeks to minimize any character traits (such as intelligence) by childish demeaning commentary.

    The fact is the old fool did not get his way with brexit, so he lashes out at any individual who disagrees with him. I do hope that he considers his own position in the light of hindsight, just as he lambasts all and sundry who enjoy similarly frail opposition to his rather jaded world view. At least Cyrille is true to his red roots, and not shifting from one foot to the other, based on personal hatred and expediency.

    I quite like Merkel. Despite growing up in the east as a Lutheran pastors daughter, she made the most of her state education, by dint of hard graft and a thoughtful character. She has been branded a tentative decision maker, but the truth is, she never made a decision without great consideration. This may be due to her upbringing, or more likely, the divisive nature of coalition politics. She has thus been required to, run down the clock, on her tenure as Chancellor, and resist the temptation to interfere in the matter of brexit. Sadly her love for a United motherland has blinkered her approach to EU unity.
    Her sainted nominee to replace her has all the hallmarks of Cyrille, without the obvious constraints of being a hardline champagne socialist.
    Who is this Farage chap you keep banging on about? Is he a real person, or just another victim of your imaginary vitriol?

    Politically the UK is worlds apart from your spiteful anger, but at least it’s not the USA who was your former employer. Be thankful for small mercies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    You stupid fuck, it's but just the first instalment on the £30 billions the City is going to lose unless Bozo sucks some serious EU cock to get passporting rights back on its services.

    You Brexit chancres are truly, quite, quite dim.
    Gosh, with a market cap of 3.5trillion, that 30Bn will bring it to its knees eh?


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    ^^Roger and Pete never really did get along. Pete is a bright bloke, you see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Gosh, with a market cap of 3.5trillion, that 30Bn will bring it to its knees eh?

    You silly gormless jackass, that £30 billion was the contribution to GDP of passporting rights now denied to th UK.

    A sum that equates to, well, let me think now........um, oh yes, about 30 x the entire contribution from the Bozo fishing industry.

    You really are a ding-a-ling.......har, har, geddit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    You silly gormless jackass, that £30 billion was the contribution to GDP of passporting rights now denied to th UK.

    A sum that equates to, well, let me think now........um, oh yes, about 30 x the entire contribution from the Bozo fishing industry.

    You really are a ding-a-ling.......har, har, geddit?
    You do know that your desperate attempts at painting some kind of crisis are as witless as they are effective, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You do know that your desperate attempts at painting some kind of crisis are as witless as they are effective, right?
    You got a bit lost there by the look of things, harriet.



    Almost as daft as pretending 30 billion quid doesn't matter ... at a time when resources are more stretched than at any time since f'kin WW2 and its aftermath.

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    There is no crisis in your mentally impoverished world, you dull-witted baboon 'Arry, only an ever increasing catalogue of losses stemming from the ineptitude of quitting the largest and wealthiest trading bloc in the free world, as association of which the UK was a top table member enjoying a discounted rate of membership and which yielded a dividend of £220 billions in annual trade through unfettered commerce permitting totally free access unencumbered by any bureaucracy to 500 million consumers within 27 member states merely 22 miles distant from the UK's borders.

    The sheer enormity of this crass stupidity is just now becoming understood by the lumpen stupid who were hoodwinked by a bunch of xenophobic tax evading carpetbaggers.

    You morons truly have fucked up but in terms of distress and impending cessation of trading, yes it is a crisis for hundreds of British SMEs in all types of business who are now having to grapple with the reality foisted on them by the Bozo who famously told one and all to " fuck business".

    So, what has been the tangible benefit ( no more witless vacuous rhetoric pulleeeaasse ) of Brexit, eh 'Arry, you knuckle-dragging oaf.

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