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    Lifting the standard of arrivals . . . aaahhhh Brexit. The racists will be livid, Poles leaving and Indians arriving.

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    I hear Farage is back in the news again, blaming the French for 'escorting' migrants over to UK waters.

    He's a little economical with the truth, as usual, since neither the French or UK can lawfully intervene but only shadow in case of distress.

    Do people still believe this oxygen thief?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Do people still believe this oxygen thief?
    Of course. Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I hear Farage is back in the news again, blaming the French for 'escorting' migrants over to UK waters.

    He's a little economical with the truth, as usual, since neither the French or UK can lawfully intervene but only shadow in case of distress.

    Do people still believe this oxygen thief?
    I do, but so what?

    Put your hand up if you're surprised that Macron now or later would turn a blind eye to human trafficking that's headed toward Britland; now smack yourself with it!

    Not liking someone doesn't mean everything they say is a lie.

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    Nigel is a great orator and a great salesman, but he is also a pathological liar, not a word he says is true

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    Meanwhile I bet Boris wishes he could have a bit of that 750bn EU stimulus package.

    Soon be June and the end of any possible delays, except no-one bothers with those cut-offs any longer.

    Is DC still around? He's gonna sink BoJo. People are starting to see through these twisted truths...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Meanwhile I bet Boris wishes he could have a bit of that 750bn EU stimulus package.

    Soon be June and the end of any possible delays, except no-one bothers with those cut-offs any longer.

    Is DC still around? He's gonna sink BoJo. People are starting to see through these twisted truths...
    The stimulus seems to be individual governments helping ailing industry at home, once they have the approval of the European Commission of course.
    France bails out Renault and Germany takes a stake in Lufthansa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Of course. Why not?
    As long as Britain has a lumpen majority of halfwits, ignoramuses and mean-minded xenophobic bigots, there will always be demagogues such as Farage trumpeting their cause.

    It's like defecation, you can't have the turd without the wind and slime that goes with it - Farage is that wind and slime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    The stimulus seems to be individual governments helping ailing industry at home, once they have the approval of the European Commission of course.
    France bails out Renault and Germany takes a stake in Lufthansa.
    But surely there must be EU diktats subverting national sovereignty somewhere?


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    I see the EU overlords are now dishing out tens of billions to the Italians, Spanish and Greeks, all of whom are perennial freeloaders.

    What joy it is to know that Great Britain no longer has to subsidise these lazy, tax evading oiks.

    BRUSSELS — The European Union proposed a 750 billion-euro ($825 billion) recovery fund to help countries weather a painful recession triggered by the coronavirus and sought Wednesday to bridge divisions over the conditions that should be attached for access to the money.


    The fund, to be mostly made up of grants and tied to the common budget of EU's 27 member nations, comes as the world’s biggest trading bloc enters its deepest-ever recession, weighed down by the impact of the virus pandemic. Virtually every country has broken the EU’s deficit limit while spending to keep health care systems, businesses and jobs alive.


    “Our unique model built over 70 years is being challenged like never before in our history,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told EU lawmakers as she unveiled the plan. “This is Europe’s moment. Our willingness to act must live up to the challenges we are all facing.”


    As Europe’s residents slowly return to workplaces and classrooms, countries hit hardest by the pandemic such as Italy and Spain remain in desperate need of funds and want to avoid long-term wrangling. Barely off the press, the EU’s recovery proposal received mixed reviews, with Dutch officials notably cool on it.


    EU Proposes 750 Billion-Euro Coronavirus Recovery Fund - The New York Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I see the EU overlords are now dishing out tens of billions to the Italians, Spanish and Greeks, all of whom are perennial freeloaders.

    What joy it is to know that Great Britain no longer has to subsidise these lazy, tax evading oiks.
    Italy is a net contributor to the EU budget. Spain contributes an amount very close to what it takes out

    EU budget: Who pays most in and who gets most back? - BBC News

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    'Arry of course is a Brexiteer and therefore an ignorant, petty minded and rather stupid credulous fool.

    Taking 2017 as a typical year, the UK was fourth in the table of contributors according to percentage of GDP, behind Netherlands, Germany and Sweden, and in terms of per capita contributions the UK was fifth in the table behind Netherlands, Germany, Sweden and Denmark.

    The UK on average pays a net contribution, after rebates and benefit payments are taken into account, of around £9 billion annually in return for which it generates in unfettered trade from the EU countries around 13% of its GDP, about £220 billion.

    It's unclear, even after four long tedious years of piffle-waffle speak from Brexit numpties, just how much of this trade will be lost but conservative estimates assess it to be in the region of £60 billions but if no agreement is reached this June then a WTO exit means a loss of £100 billions is likely, a sum which is not going to be compensated by extra trade with either the US, China or Papua New Guinea.

    I think the most dreary aspect of the Brexit doctrine and their pitiful adherents is the utter stupidity that distinguishes just about everything they do and say.

    Remember the morons saying the Brexit depreciation of the £ sterling was but a blip and would bounce back quickly? Well, here we are nigh on four years later and the £ is still at $1.22 and EUR 1.11 and 39 baht.

    The precipice is finally in sight .......one more month and BoJo the Clown still quacks away that there can be no extension to any more negotiations.

    WTO and post - Covid £ = $1.05-10 for sure which in practical terms is a parity that will ensure a huge spike in borrowing and in the end inflation.

    The problem is, those wages will still be pegged at old values and that means an irresistible demand for increases and industrial unrest. Higher unemployment and inflation ripping away savings and so-called equity in assets is the future.

    It really is shaping up to be a new 1920s/1970s but this time we have the worst PM and cabinet in British political history so far out of their depth it's embarrassing.

    Another 40,000 dying in November's second COVID wave will be a fine overture to the forthcoming disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    'Arry of course is a Brexiteer and therefore an ignorant, petty minded and rather stupid credulous fool.

    Taking 2017 as a typical year, the UK was fourth in the table of contributors according to percentage of GDP, behind Netherlands, Germany and Sweden, and in terms of per capita contributions the UK was fifth in the table behind Netherlands, Germany, Sweden and Denmark.

    The UK on average pays a net contribution, after rebates and benefit payments are taken into account, of around £9 billion annually in return for which it generates in unfettered trade from the EU countries around 13% of its GDP, about £220 billion.

    It's unclear, even after four long tedious years of piffle-waffle speak from Brexit numpties, just how much of this trade will be lost but conservative estimates assess it to be in the region of £60 billions but if no agreement is reached this June then a WTO exit means a loss of £100 billions is likely, a sum which is not going to be compensated by extra trade with either the US, China or Papua New Guinea.

    I think the most dreary aspect of the Brexit doctrine and their pitiful adherents is the utter stupidity that distinguishes just about everything they do and say.

    Remember the morons saying the Brexit depreciation of the £ sterling was but a blip and would bounce back quickly? Well, here we are nigh on four years later and the £ is still at $1.22 and EUR 1.11 and 39 baht.

    The precipice is finally in sight .......one more month and BoJo the Clown still quacks away that there can be no extension to any more negotiations.

    WTO and post - Covid £ = $1.05-10 for sure which in practical terms is a parity that will ensure a huge spike in borrowing and in the end inflation.

    The problem is, those wages will still be pegged at old values and that means an irresistible demand for increases and industrial unrest. Higher unemployment and inflation ripping away savings and so-called equity in assets is the future.

    It really is shaping up to be a new 1920s/1970s but this time we have the worst PM and cabinet in British political history so far out of their depth it's embarrassing.

    Another 40,000 dying in November's second COVID wave will be a fine overture to the forthcoming disaster.
    Even remoaners must be heartily sick of you regurgitating your pro EU bile, time after time after time.
    I note you have modified your prediction on exchange rates. No more parity with the dollar?
    No worries, it’s only a product of your wild socialist dreams and fantasies anyway. Written to appease your pikey mindset.
    Fuck off and die. Take your piffle waffle phraseology with you defeatist moron
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    someone is having a nice morning again

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    Poor Chas, four long years of Tory rule and the £ is still on its arse, the current account deficit is still a chasm, productivity is abysmal, GDP growth is negligible and the economy is edging into recession, borrowing is scheduled to hit £300 billions by year's end, engineering is in freefall, agricultural produce is rotting in the ground for want of labour, the care industry is preparing for armageddon with no staff replacements in view next year when the EU supply evaporates, third world sub-continent migration is breaking records and he has the worst government in British political history in power that is run by a Goebbels propagandist using a clown as his sock puppet for PM.

    Defeatist? Naah, Chas I'm a realist and we are about to experience the worst economic disaster since the 1920s but at least you can take consolation in the fact it has been made all that much worse by leaving an unfettered market of 500 millions only 22 miles distant from our shores.

    Honestly, you just couldn't write it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Poor Chas, four long years of Tory rule and the £ is still on its arse, the current account deficit is still a chasm, productivity is abysmal, GDP growth is negligible and the economy is edging into recession, borrowing is scheduled to hit £300 billions by year's end, engineering is in freefall, agricultural produce is rotting in the ground for want of labour, the care industry is preparing for armageddon with no staff replacements in view next year when the EU supply evaporates, third world sub-continent migration is breaking records and he has the worst government in British political history in power that is run by a Goebbels propagandist using a clown as his sock puppet for PM.

    Defeatist? Naah, Chas I'm a realist and we are about to experience the worst economic disaster since the 1920s but at least you can take consolation in the fact it has been made all that much worse by leaving an unfettered market of 500 millions only 22 miles distant from our shores.

    Honestly, you just couldn't write it.
    Hyperbole and assumptions that fit your narrative. Nothing new at all. Repeating your sad narrative will not make it come true, just because you suffer from tunnel vision, and you still insist on a one sided narrative.
    The EU is not 22 miles from UK, but France is.
    Calling the market unfettered, when EU mechanisms complicate it needlessly, is clearly a lie.
    Your personal hatred for the government and its leadership is irrelevant in this case. A majority voted to leave and subsequently elected a government which promised to secure that intention.
    You are not a realist at all. You are a fantasist. Using the collective “we” means nothing. You will only experience massive personal unhappiness, as opposed to the meltdown you are predicting. You have made it clear, despite attempts to access this awful country, you want no part of it.
    You will end up in a dug out canoe in some dystopian backwater. See, I too can fantasize about uncertain dystopian futures, but I know you not be allowed to settle anywhere half decent anyway.
    For better or worse, I will return one day, certain in the knowledge that my passport and tax status will allow me to retire in peace, a long way from miserable shitcunts like you.

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    in the meantime, progress on the future relationship with the EU has stopped, moving closer to the deadline and the need for a new extension

    get ready for a 180 by the usual suspects

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    in the meantime, progress on the future relationship with the EU has stopped, moving closer to the deadline and the need for a new extension

    get ready for a 180 by the usual suspects
    Such relationships that are deemed acceptable by the EU align nicely with SA rhetoric.

    No longer required. Why extend anything that is no longer of value or interest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    No longer required. Why extend anything that is no longer of value or interest?
    er, perhaps because it is of value to the UK? If it wasn't, the UK had plenty of opportunity to walk away.

    The UK didn't take those opportunities.

    Figured it out yet?

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    Don't hold your breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    er, perhaps because it is of value to the UK? If it wasn't, the UK had plenty of opportunity to walk away.

    The UK didn't take those opportunities.

    Figured it out yet?
    You haven’t. Having explored all the possibilities in Europe, and found them wanting, you finally decided to retire to Nakhon nowhere. That rural idyll is a little different on a full time basis isn’t it?
    Thoughtful intelligent folk require stimulation and erudite conversation. Laughing at the antics of local idiots will soon lose its charm.
    Cyrille must be wondering how long his high end tefler job will last, as the kingdom tightens the largesse of the local oil funded economy.
    What has he got to look forward to, now that UK is not an option? Chiangmai has seasons at least, plus poor air quality, and all the geriatric charm of Eastbourne.
    SA is stuck in a time loop in deserted cesspit. You all have investments that no longer carry any weight, in a dictatorship trying hard to undermine the Thais uncanny resistance to natural and man made disasters.
    The military dictatorship will finally destroy what the people are naturally attuned to. Survival.
    The people have shown that they can overcome famine, flood, drought and any manner of natural disaster, not once, but many times over. This is nothing compared to the military dictatorship they are now faced with.
    You are all invested in it, with limited means of escape, and you dare to chastise anyone who wants to leave the advanced version of the same malaise in Europe. A military dictatorship is just communism, one step away from the socialist empire that you praise, but run away from.
    Good luck fellas.

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    Still in denial of reality then and trying to deflect from answering the question.

    My circumstances are irrelevant and you have little understanding of my surroundings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    ^^ How about elderly, Bali-based sexpats Chas?

    Particularly ones who have swapped one rather disreputable SE Asian island for another?

    What aspects of their lifestyle choices do you apparently consider relevant to the topic?

    You'll at least have a more accurate idea of what they are.

    The immigration system is much more straightforward here. The cost of living is comparable, if not cheaper.
    Sorry to report that my knowledge of bar life and whoring here is almost non existent.
    At least we can get most western food stuffs and decent steak due to the proximity of Australia.
    I do not live in, or frequent the bogan infested swamp that is Kuta, but I’m sure it has all the allure you are seeking.
    Its a developing country, with a few attractions worth exploring. The mountains and rice paddies are quite picturesque in the north of the island. Locals are generally more direct and honest about their intentions.

    Since the lockdown, traffic congestion has all but ceased. True friends are more easily identified.

    Having said all that, my plans are to stay, maybe one more year at most. My bucket list is not complete yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Still in denial of reality then and trying to deflect from answering the question.

    My circumstances are irrelevant and you have little understanding of my surroundings.
    Ah reality. Something you see as an opportunity for denial.
    Of course your circumstances are relevant. Covid has denied you anything that wasn’t already fairly abject, in terms of a future.
    What was the question again?

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