Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by cyrille

Hardly the EU's fault.

Isn't, and wasn't, everything the EU's fault?

The good news on this front is that certain Brits and the tabloids will still blame the EU for everything in the future. Pus ça change, plus ça ...

Its amazing that Mystic Sausages can unfalteringly predict the obvious so accurately yet he is seemingly incapable of predicting where and how he is going to get his bloke back to the civilised world. Bit like Uri coming across a real fork.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by cyrille Hardly the EU's fault.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Isn't, and wasn't, everything the EU's fault?.

Erm it was a joke. Jeeez you remainers, brummies and frenchies have no sense of humour.

Good morning Britain

No, Tax, I fancy the main determinant will be apparent by year's end, or a month or two before.

The thing is, before the vote in 2016, most of the less afflicted among the Brexiteers assumed that alignment and the single market was a given for the future.

This of course has now been blown away by the Orcs and one wonders just how this will play out not least because at heart we all know that BoJo was a remainer. So how will he and Gobbels Cummings play the game with the Orcs when the Treasury explains the emerging reality of a future without frictionless trade with 500 million consumers 22 miles away upon which more than £260 billion in trade is dependent. At the moment we are getting the mood music that England will not compromise on anything and will accept nothing less than some iteration of a FTA without quotas. But this is really a bit of a red herring when one ponders the reality that 80% of the economy is services dependent and services are not included in that deal. We have had the latest Gove drivel that sacrificing Fisheries to secure a deal gaining City access to EU markets is not up for grabs or even negotiation. Given that British fishing revenue is less than mushroom cultivation this posturing is self evidently piffle waffle and of no relevance but it is an indicator of just how much BoJo is going to rely on puerile brinkmanship as a negotiating ploy. Goebbels Cummings thinks that this early hardball bullshit will result in an agreement by year's end, a manifesto pledge cast in stone, but no-one in the EU is fooled by this nonsense and have already said so.

Frankly, it is impossible to say just how far the Orcs will go in order to save face. Britain is in unknown waters in a leaky ship navigated by a clown who has had no experience of governance outside of arranging his sexual peccadilloes in between grandstanding for a capital city and who has a self-professed disdain for commerce and businesses.

BoJo is painting himself into a corner and if he fails to negotiate sensibly then WTO is a given in which case BMW/Airbus/PSA/Nissan t al will be gone and the £ will be back south to $1.10 territory and if that happens then stagflation is the future from which there will be no emergence for a decade.

The board is set and the clock is timed to stop 31 12 20. Bojo and the Orcs either compromise or it's third country WTO status.

Talk of the EU 'blinking' is delusional, they have already said everything is negotiable except the EU's solidarity and that means Britain does not get anything without paying for it.

Remember Tax, BoJo is lazy, conceited and impatient with no interest in the mechanics of anything other than the management of his own self-interest and his next shag. He has no wider interests, no friends of any merit and no goals beyond naked ambition to be PM. He has achieved that and now everything else is a bore in comparison. So, instead of anything approaching a sound strategy rooted in fiscal reality, we have all this tosh coming out of 10 Downing St as he waves a banner proclaiming a new world order in which Britain will be a levelled paradise of Utopian equal opportunity and wealth powered by Northern grit and southern money, a country where it will be people before passports and a new bridge will be built across the Irish Sea. All this is typical BoJo bollox redolent of his stupid plan for an estuarine airport to replace LHR/LGW and the farce of the flower bridge and his disastrous Routemaster buses.

If the Orcs wake up from their insanity there may be a chance but really unless it includes a single market and a modicum of free movement this so-called New Britain is doomed to being a tenth rate, bargain basement ersatz America complete with its own ready made demographic of redneck morons.

The future is not Europe, sure its a big market now for the UK but not in years to come and the sooner we wean ourselves off it and its toxic slow paced bureaucracy the better. Both the EU and the UK are better apart in the long term.

Any one of India, Africa, China etc will dwarf the EU in importance in the next 10 years.

Your committee is now free of the UK to squabble endlessly over minutiae, or who the fuk is picking up the tab for the next 7 years.

^ I certainly agree with the importance of those countries but don't really hold out much hope for a good deal with the USA. Trump really owes us nothing, and there is also little we can offer them that the USA doesn't already produce itself. It will be Trump's ego first, and America first in a somewhat distant second. He's a successful if understandably loathed businessman and will always put those interests before any "special relationship".

^ Mandy only Sausages thinks that Leave supporter are deluded enough to think we have entered a period of tranquil ease under which the UK will sail from country to country signing FTAs.

The reality is that it will be difficult and we'll come off worse in some instances but that is the real world not the one where we sit inside the EU committee waiting for them to decide our future.

Choppy times ahead

No more of these in the future - robbing bastards

over to you Yermany.....

The European Commission has issued Britain with a bill for £1.09  billion on the very evening that it finally left the EU.


Every year Brussels recalculates the contributions member states make to the EU Budget. This year, due to an increase in Gross National Income and VAT contributions, EU officials believe Britain owes an extra €1.09  billion.


The demand for payment was sent to the UK embassy to the EU and has been notified to the British government.


EU sources said the bill was for the period of 2019-20. Britain’s payment to Brussels for 2019 was nearly £9 billion pounds. If the figure is similar in 2020, it could mean Britain pays up to £10 billion in what could be its penultimate payment to the EU....

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Quite amusing that finally BoJo is spelling it out for the lower classes and other munters that after 1.1.21 it's back to 31.12.72 and all Brits will be coons in Europe again with no privileges and no more benefits. No more frictionless trade, no more free movement, no more cheap goods, no more ease of travel, no more anything really, just more regulations, more taxes, more bureaucracy, and more expense.

Still, for the EU, as Butters says, it means no more lower end trash infesting the Med with impunity, no more Brit criminals lounging about Spain, and an EU now free to develop in a direction that is no longer impeded by Brit myopia.

So, what is it Brits are going to sell to the world after 1.1.21 it couldn't sell before that date?

and guess what, BoJo is now threatening the EU of imposing up to 10% duty on all EU imports if he doesn't get his way with the negotiation

and only a few months ago, it was all about 0% and free import for those EU goods if hard Brexit was to happen

Originally Posted by Jack meoff

Chocks away

had a nice party at an Irish Pub in Paris, full of fat Brit chavs celebrating Brexit, it was awesome

triple post

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Jeeez you remainers, brummies and frenchies have no sense of humour.

I'm none of the above, thanks . . .

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

sure its a big market now for the UK but not in years to come

It's 50% for the UK . . . and you're going to replace that quick-smart . . . of course. Gotta love the optimism.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Any one of India, Africa, China etc will dwarf the EU in importance in the next 10 years.

Yea . . . nah. Talking up the UK is one thing, minimising the EU is another.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

The European Commission has issued Britain with a bill for £1.09  billion on the very evening that it finally left the EU.

All as per agreement with the UK, or do you want to now disregard negotiated agreements like Trump?

Yea . . . nah. Have fun.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

BoJo is now threatening the EU of imposing up to 10% duty on all EU imports if he doesn't get his way with the negotiation

Like Trump . . . will the Brits be smart enough to understand that they are paying for the duty, not the country of origin?

Brexit Day
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Sept/Oct 2015 £ = 54 baht.

Oct 2016 £ = 42 baht.

Fucking awesome.

Originally Posted by panama hat

It's 50% for the UK . . . and you're going to replace that quick-smart . . . of course. Gotta love the optimism.

Good grief PH i already said this is not an overnight issue, it will take years and there will be pain, is that clear. You weren't in a bar cheering us out of the EU last night were you

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

You weren't in a bar cheering us out of the EU last night were you

Nope, it's not a reason to celebrate on either side, but it's good the UK is finally out, no more Farages et al suckling from the EU purse. Happy to take the money and constantly whining about getting out

Originally Posted by panama hat

Happy to take the money and constantly whining about getting out

Oh dear...


The Brexit Party chief is in line to pocket more than £150,000 but has decided to snub the so-called “transitional allowance” offered to parliamentarians who have served for five years or more. He could have walked away from his role as a member of the European Parliament with a pre-tax payout of £152,992, based on his 20 years of service since 1999. Mr Farage said: "I'll not be taking a penny. The transition payment is for MEPs who will have difficulty finding a new job after they leave the European Parliament. "That particular situation does not apply to me as I have many broadcast opportunities in the pipeline. "I could not in good conscience take the money and therefore I won't be taking it."

Whatever way you feel it's nice to something to have actually happened.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Oh dear...

So, he hasn't pocketed anything from his years there? Oh, dear

Here's some fun:

Originally Posted by panama hat

So, he hasn't pocketed anything from his years there? Oh, dear

I suspect no more that the other overpaid leeches in that club. Still at least we won't have to fund their lunches and over inflated wage rises now. I am really heartened you've taken an interest PH, a little late but nonetheless well done.

oh and thanks for the 40bn EURO cheque btw, you couldn't leave without giving us a little gift before heading for the door

Thank you Boris

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Oh dear...


The Brexit Party chief is in line to pocket more than £150,000 but has decided to snub the so-called “transitional allowance” offered to parliamentarians who have served for five years or more. He could have walked away from his role as a member of the European Parliament with a pre-tax payout of £152,992, based on his 20 years of service since 1999. Mr Farage said: "I'll not be taking a penny. The transition payment is for MEPs who will have difficulty finding a new job after they leave the European Parliament. "That particular situation does not apply to me as I have many broadcast opportunities in the pipeline. "I could not in good conscience take the money and therefore I won't be taking it."

" .......And the money I've raked in from Aaron Banks makes this pay check no more than chickenfeed."