Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Switch

Germany has been obliged to accept migrants of any hue since 1945, in order to prevent any Aryan tendencies. Merkel was only too happy to do so recently, because of the alarmingly low birth rate. Her East German roots prevented her from fully grasping the true psyche of her fellow countrymen.

I think you'll find that most Germans approve of her handling of this, otherwise she and her party would have been voted out long ago - and not to forget hat her party isn't the 'liberal' one, so that doubles the potential loss, which didn't eventuate.

I doubt very much anything has to do with 'Aryan tendencies', which is a sock puppet for Anglos to bring up whenever and for whatever

Originally Posted by panama hat

I think you'll find that most Germans approve of her handling of this, otherwise she and her party would have been voted out long ago - and not to forget hat her party isn't the 'liberal' one, so that doubles the potential loss, which didn't eventuate.

I doubt very much anything has to do with 'Aryan tendencies', which is a sock puppet for Anglos to bring up whenever and for whatever

Your doubts are noted, but in 1945, it was very real, especially for the allied forces who liberated the concentration camps. Dear me PH, you’ll be denying the Holocaust next. Politically there was no way the west would accept a reunified Germany at the time.
Merkel had her doubters, who thought she was awkward and slow. I found her to be thoughtful and considered. Despite her acceptance of migrants in large numbers, the Germans did not readily accept some of the more hostile conduct of a minority of immigrants, and it did fuel the growth of the right wing in Germany, especially among the young and disenfranchised. Ring any bells.
No one wants a repeat that kind of reactionary growth again thank you.

Anyway, as we've side stepped the issue of border control which the EU seems incapable of enforcing and picking genuine refugees out is easy because they have the correct barcodes.

The really pressing matter is the UK losing 13 of its GDP in the event of a no deal and an end to cheap lease access to beemers, audis and mercs. I for one will rejoice at not having the obligatory audi or merc sat a foot off the back of my car in the fast lane but worry that they will all switch to volvos.

Originally Posted by Switch

but in 1945, it was very real

Perhaps, are you talking about after the war? I again doubt what you're claiming - the Germans had enough on their plate worrying about food and shelter than to wish for another bout of nationalists that ruined the country.

Originally Posted by Switch

Dear me PH, you’ll be denying the Holocaust next.

Nope, mot at all and nothing to do with the issue at hand - but another sock puppet

Originally Posted by Switch

Germans did not readily accept some of the more hostile conduct of a minority of immigrants

Would anyone? Plus, the 'hostile conduct' was mainly in the west and only in the east did the right wing gin any popularity

Originally Posted by Switch

It's. It my fault you skipped history. Those who deny it are destined to repeat the same .istakes.

That's what it is - history, learned from and never far from Germans' minds, who is denying it?

OVER 1,400 EUROPEAN FINANCIAL FIRMS HAVE REQUESTED PERMISSION TO OPEN UP OFFICES IN THE UNITED KINGDOM IN LIGHT OF THE UK’S EXIT FROM THE EUROPEAN UNION.

EU Humiliated As ‘More Than A Thousand European Firms’ Reveal Why They’re Moving To UK | Political UK

Over to you, SA, tell us why they're all bonkers!

Reading this morning, the IMF predicts higher growth for the UK than the EU.

British economy will grow faster than eurozone rivals, says IMF | News | The Times

Originally Posted by PAG

Reading this morning, the IMF predicts higher growth for the UK than the EU.

British economy will grow faster than eurozone rivals, says IMF | News | The Times

They omitted from the headline the not entirely insignificant rider that such projected growth was dependent upon an orderly Brexit.

Given the utterly stupid and bombastic comments from the Chancellor t'other day that the UK will not align with the EU at all, I should think even the dimmest Brexit observer will conclude the future is not so rosy.

The CBI and over a million SMEs who do business in the EU ( over 48% of all our manufacturing exports are to the EU ) are appalled at the Chancellor's remarks and particularly by his asinine comment businesses have had three years in which to to prepare, a clearly impossible feat given no one knows even now what the fucking rules will be.

But by all means, suck up the right wing pap as long as it makes you feel happier.

Originally Posted by PAG

Reading this morning, the IMF predicts higher growth for the UK than the EU.

'Assuming an orderly BREXIT, growth would accelerate from 1.3% last year to 1.4% this year'. Whoop De Dooo.

Simply the 'banging one's head against the wall' principle at work: it's nice when it stops.

Given Ireland, Poland and sundry others all have annual growth in excess of 4% one truly wonders just how desperate the right wing are to pump up their champions of imbecility.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

I'm beginning to understand why you are such a jabbering idiot. I had assumed it was some adverse ontological intervention but it seems you rely on dribbling propaganda from biased loons to foster your comprehension of events and phenoma that may pique what passes for your interest.

The application for such status is not a "humiliation" for the EU, nor is it a validation in support of Brexit. It is merely a prudent stitch in time by those who wish to do business in a future environment that might not be available to them if they did not submit such an application now.

The UK financial institutions transferred over a $ trillion after Jan 2019 to the EU in order to protect themselves. Was that a humiliation for the Farage scum?

Yes I now, you're right, we should listen to you, everything else is propaganda.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Given Ireland, Poland and sundry others all have annual growth in excess of 4% one truly wonders just how desperate the right wing are to pump up their champions of imbecility.

They compare Britain with the EU average and when they get desperate enough they can compare with the single EU country that has the lowest growth. (Italy below 1%). An exercise into fooling the gullible by lying using statistics..

And in truth an explanation for the entire imbroglio that is Brexit, a credulous and uninformed stupid public convinced by vacuous rhetoric spouted in support of a xenophobic and bigoted doctrine advancing the interests of the tenth rate, snake oil salesmen and mummified dinosaurs preserved in imperial aspic.

They never had spirit, they delight in failure in others...CS, Teacher et al are hardly the CVs of success, let them at least revel in this for a bit.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Assuming an orderly BREXIT, growth would accelerate from 1.3% last year to 1.4% this year'. Whoop De Dooo.

7.7% acceleration. predicted under certain conditions
If Ireland accelerates its growth from 4.8% to 5.1% then it is only a "meager" 6.2% acceleration.
I have an idea of which one is the better performer.
How about you NPT? This Times article was written for you and your ilks.

Originally Posted by lom

7.7% acceleration. predicted under certain conditions

As an economics grad the wording alone is quite ridiculous. I'm sure under certain conditions growth of 275% can be predicted

Lom, you seem to be on a crusade which is irrelevant, oh and Sausages and Syb. The post Brexit reality will be what it is, so why don't you just sit back and bask in the eternal glow that is EU success and well keep a weather eye on the UK and its dismal future - there's a good little chap

anyway, who cares about growth, that's never been about Brexit and economic contraction was expected for Brexit to happen

all that matters is that Brexit is real, and that Boris delivered brilliantly

only 2 years wasted with that ridiculous bint, Maybot, but I guess she was useful for getting the groundwork done with Barnier, instead of a Hard Brexit if it had been Boris then

Mission Accomplished, win-win for everyone (I think)

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

He's a fuck up and this bullying of his cabinet and the civil service is a charade masking his incompetence and inferiority.

He in truth is a serial loser who just wants to shag around and indulge his narcissistic fantasies.

Jealousy is so unbecoming but not surprising. When are you moving to Ireland, the land of infinite possibility with a future so bright it leaves the Jap flag in the shade.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Jealousy is so unbecoming but not surprising. When are you moving to Ireland, the land of infinite possibility with a future so bright it leaves the Jap flag in the shade.

Pointing out facts shouldn't necessitate a move, though . . . the Uk is buggered at least in the first few years - I doubt anyone can argue that

Originally Posted by panama hat

Pointing out facts shouldn't necessitate a move, though . . . the Uk is buggered at least in the first few years - I doubt anyone can argue that

Facts!!, wasn't it you that mentioned you can present these any way you wish....facts are not predictions PH. You seem to be buying into the remainer scepticism, you'd best leave that puddle forthwith before you get tainted with Buttchugger's negative outlook on life, has reading his repetitive negativity taught you nothing?

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

An oik with a better future, a better career, a better class of background and quite a bit better financially placed than you

Yea, not really necessary

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Facts!!, wasn't it you that mentioned you can present these any way you wish...

Nope. I'd like to see you quote me on that.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

You seem to be buying into the remainer scepticism

I couldn't care less about the UK (no offence) but simply looking at economic facts that have occurred, are occuring and will occur as a result of exiting the EU is simple enough.
Companies moving to the EU from the UK
Skilled labor leaving the UK and not being replaced
Loss of markets

Just to name a few

I think it's the most ridiculous idea to leave the EU, being a mid-rate 'power' in most calculations, because of lies, propaganda and nationalistic brouhaha.

The EU will be better off without the UK, it'll certainly run smoother . . . but the UK will be worse of without the EU

Originally Posted by panama hat

Yea, not really necessary



Nope. I'd like to see you quote me on that.



I couldn't care less about the UK (no offence) but simply looking at economic facts that have occurred, are occuring and will occur as a result of exiting the EU is simple enough.
Companies moving to the EU from the UK
Skilled labor leaving the UK and not being replaced
Loss of markets

Just to name a few

I think it's the most ridiculous idea to leave the EU, being a mid-rate 'power' in most calculations, because of lies, propaganda and nationalistic brouhaha.

The EU will be better off without the UK, it'll certainly run smoother . . . but the UK will be worse of without the EU

Must admit I felt a little confused reading this. 'Mid-rate power' being an example. The UK is in the top 6 economies of the world, a member of the UN Security Council, and has the most effective armed forces/military in Europe/EU.

It has some of the most top rated universities in the world, is renowned for its excellence in technology and innovation, as well as London with its position as the financial capital of Europe. A point about London, reading this morning about Morgan Stanley opening a new office in Paris, with several hundred moving there from London. What the article didn't mention (think it was the Guardian) was that Morgan Stanley employs 14,000 in the UK, with a decline of no more than 2,000 expected because of Brexit. Again recently, read that office rents are expected to reach record highs in London due to shortages in office space as more companies moving in.

Can't remember if you're from Aus or NZ, however the UK intends to move to an Australian points based immigration system rather than an immediate entitlement for anyone (and their families) with an EU passport, whether they have employment or not. Imagine if Aus/NZ as members of ASEAN were forced to accept anybody carrying an ASEAN passport, with full entitlement to housing, social security, education and health.

Again re companies leaving the UK, this from one week ago and contrary to the never ending rubbish extolled by SA and others:

"Chief Executive Officer Guillaume Faury said Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal, which will see Britain leave the European Union on Jan. 31, means the split from the bloc “is at least now for certain,” though the nature of future ties still needs to be worked out.

The European aerospace giant, which employs more than 13,500 people at 25 U.K. sites and supports 100,000 supplier jobs, warned under previous CEO Tom Enders that future production might be in doubt as the prospect of a no-deal Brexit threatened to create border delays and inflate costs.

“Airbus is committed to the U.K. and to working with the new government on an ambitious industrial strategy,” Faury said late Wednesday at a company event in London. “We see great potential to improve and expand our operations in the U.K. this year.”

Wings for all Airbus models are made in Britain, chiefly at sites near Chester and Bristol, as well as in Belfast at a plant previously owned by Bombardier Inc. and now operated by Spirit AeroSystems Holdings Inc. The U.K. will also play a vital role in helping Airbus transition to low- and zero-carbon technology, Faury said, while also praising its increased funding for the European Space Agency."