Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Yah that's it jabby, we spend our days hoping our family and friends have shit lives.

How clever of you to have rumbled us.

I didn't rumble you, you lot rumbled yourselves.


Tell you what though, I wouldn't cross the desert with SA or butterfly carrying the water!

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Actually, if the Brits had capitulated, an act that would have been more or less certain had Guderian's tanks not been ordered to stop short of Dunkirk, then the US would not have had a base from which to launch an invasion of the Continent assuming of course the septics declared war on the krauts. With only one front to worry about it is doubtful Stalin could have withstood the onslaught in 1941 onwards.
The Germans would have had free rein of the Atlantic and with the French and British navies under Hitler's control it is unlikely that Roosevelyt could have mustered much domestic support for war. The Jap angle is interesting and one wonders how things would have panned out if a victorious Nazi regime pressured the septics into accepting Nipponese demands for concessions in the Pacific - essentially the entire European axis in colonial exploitation of SE Asia would have ben wiped out forever in 1940 leaving Japan free rein.

Indeed, the world would have been a very different place - possibly no nuclear weapons, no Middle East problems and an Africa subordinate to German imperialism with a Russia no more than a slave camp, similar to what China may well have become under Japan's occupation.

Yes indeed a different world. It is doubtful the Americans would've or could've entered the war without a base to operate from. With only one front the germans would've defeated the Russians as the Russians would've run short of military supplies with no help from "allies". I doubt America would have supplied USSR without cash up front.
With Europe subdued and the middle east oil supplies locked up, the Commonwealth countries would not have survived without the Allies. Canada withdrawing back to its borders and the rest split between Germany and Japan. With an isolationist America and a defeat Europe and russia by a "friendly" power,the japanese would have no need to attack pearl Harbour and would've eventually taken over Asia, leaving three powers. The Americas dominated by the USA. Europe/Africa/Russia dominated by Germany. Asia dominated by Japan. How long that would last until someone wanted the whole cake no one knows. Just my take on the alternative future.

Another good and very clear speech.

The British people did not support Brexit because of the Bastard Cash, the cognomen given by Major, but because they were deceived by a campaign of lies, deceit and dissembling from demagogues led by dinosaur racist right wing trash, such as Cash, and that same constituency of the credulous and the merely stupid have combined with another demographic that despised Corbyn for being a sclerotic old wanker and voted Tory in the election.

The Brexit issue was not resolved by the election, it was simply compounded by the ineptitude of Momentum Labour.

If Starmer had led a front bench of Cooper, Benn, Reeves, Thornberry, Phillips et al Brexit and 2020 would be a different kettle of prawns indeed.

Once the chaos of a BoJo Brexit finally unfolds and those Cash lies come home to roost we'll see a very different Britain indeed.

doesn't matter, it's a done deal, and you fookers will crash

game over, Great Britain

The French have won

^ France is still burning...

^^ The writer of the article below seems to disagree with you.

A Frog's eye view.

Brexit: leading the way to a Europe of nations - Briefings For Brexit

Although the article is dated June 2019, at the conclusion it states that it was translated from a French article dated July 2016. I wonder if the writer's views have changed in that time.

That website is Brexit propagandising shite and as a source as worthless as a Farage fart.

The mood music being played around Europe is that Britain's inanity is a salutary warning to all and most realise that the tawdry nationalism and cheap jingoism spouted by the Brit racist demagogues provoking the lower end into their stupid votes is not worth emulating and the right wings are getting a kicking.

When the Brit economy and social cohesion is undermined by the inevitable economic beggar-your-neigbour disaster that will be the UK's post-Brexit future, the EU will be further strengthened and I should think it will only be a matter of two elections before Britain is back in the fold.

People like Cash, Redwood, Bone etc will be dead or elsewhere and the ERGS will be social outcasts and out of politics.

In 20 years time BREXIT will be looked back on as the choice of isolationist philistines with bad skin and worse CDs.

Indeed Syb but you omitted racists, biggots and morons...there a more epithets if you trawl back through sausages posts.

I don't wince while reading them, at least.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Indeed Syb but you omitted racists, biggots and morons...there a more epithets if you trawl back through sausages posts.

Honestly, what more evidence of his loutish ignorance and oikish lumpen stupidity does one need, eh.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Honestly, what more evidence of his loutish ignorance and oikish lumpen stupidity does one need, eh.

None, some of us don't have all day stuck in a flat conjuring repetitive borefests, are you stalking me you odious old man.

Back to the subject under debate, it seems there is the suggestion that the EU will trade continued fishing rights in British waters in return for granting the UK passported financial services access to the EU's markets. This seems oddly disproportionate given the entire EU landings amount to around EUR 7 billions in 2017 whereas the estimated value of passported rights to the City is around the £30 billions mark. One hopes the EU boys drive a much tougher bargain than that minnow.....har, har.

The strength of Brexit Britain's thriving economy continues to impress, however, with a further contraction in growth recorded ( now I think the lowest in the EU bar one ) and yet another slide in the £'s value back to an abysmal $1.30 US, and 38 baht. Gosh, the Boris Bounce is working a treat, eh?

Manufacturing and the services sector are weakening but that's fine because 31 Jan 2020 will be Freedom Day and all the pixies will be out and about to spread their magic dust making the sun-dappled upland swards grow ever faster and those unicorns will be prancing about in joyous celebration of the dawning of the great new BoJo Empire.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Back to the subject under debate, it seems there is the suggestion that the EU will trade continued fishing rights in British waters in return for granting the UK passported financial services access to the EU's markets. This seems oddly disproportionate given the entire EU landings amount to around EUR 7 billions in 2017 whereas the estimated value of passported rights to the City is around the £30 billions mark. One hopes the EU boys drive a much tougher bargain than that minnow.....har, har.

The strength of Brexit Britain's thriving economy continues to impress, however, with a further contraction in growth recorded ( now I think the lowest in the EU bar one ) and yet another slide in the £'s value back to an abysmal $1.30 US, and 38 baht. Gosh, the Boris Bounce is working a treat, eh?

Manufacturing and the services sector are weakening but that's fine because 31 Jan 2020 will be Freedom Day and all the pixies will be out and about to spread their magic dust making the sun-dappled upland swards grow ever faster and those unicorns will be prancing about in joyous celebration of the dawning of the great new BoJo Empire.

You seem to forget that there are 8 european countries that depend a lot on fishing rights, even though this is a minnow matter for the UK. Those 8 nations include France and Spain. The EU wants no unrest there.

Anyway, your entire premise to remain is just taking the easy option for you personally. You hate any kind of change and your Whitehall roots would do anything to avoid extra work. Just keep muddling along taking the easy option every time.

The EU know they can never match the probity and expertise of UK financial markets. No one trusts them.

Oh dear, the inability of a Brexiteer to compute significance is truly depressing. France has a GDP of around $2.5 trillions. Of its total fish products sector, around 65% is derived from sea-going trawlers and the rest from aquaculture. The total average annual sea catch is in EUR terms worth around EUR 1 billion.

So, as a proportion of the sector's value to France's overall GDP, it is worth around 0.0005 of the economy.

Indeed, Chas, France depends on it for its very survival..........har, har.

Probity and expertise of UK's financial markets???

So, the destruction of Northern Rock, Bradford & Bingley and Halifax banks, the government bank bailout of £125 billions and the recent calamitous fund investments of Neil Woodford etc are all evidence of that "probity and expertise", eh?

Poor Chas, it must make your head ache.

It has nothing to do with damaging overall GDP. It's about damaging coastal communities. Whilst Macron is fighting the yellow vests and the pension protesters, the last thing he needs is the fishing communities up and down the french coast jumping on the protest bandwagon, as the french are prone to do with alacrity. Many of these coastal towns have no alternative forms of equivalent income. It will be a brave french politician that tells them the government is unconcerned because it only generates a small percentage of overall GDP in France.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

The prime minister has also said that the process will not be extended.

Where have we heard this before from the soap-dodging buffoon?

It seems df still hasn't yet worked out that the British PM is a pathological liar.

Boris Johnson has announced plans to project a giant clock face on to Downing Street on the evening of 31 January, in a bid to move on after a backlash over his failure to get Big Ben to bong for Brexit.


Diehard Brexiters, including Conservative MP Mark Francois and Brexit party MEP Richard Tice, had reacted furiously to news that Big Ben would not ring out to mark the UK officially quitting the EU at the end of this month.


Francois said earlier in the week that it was “inconceivable” that “the most iconic timepiece on Earth, which is Big Ben”, should not be used to mark Brexit.


Asked about the controversy on Tuesday, the prime minister said the government was “working up a plan so people can bung a bob for a Big Ben bong”.
Several crowdfunders were set up to help raise money, one of which had amassed more than £227,000 by Friday afternoon. But in an increasingly heated and farcical atmosphere, it subsequently transpired that the government had no such plan, and the House of Commons commission had no way of accepting public donations.


In a bid to draw a line under the row, No 10 has now arranged a light show, featuring a clock counting down the minutes until 11pm – midnight Brussels time – when Britain will formally leave the European Union.

Boris Johnson saves face over failed bid for Big Ben Brexit chime | Politics | The Guardian

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

It has nothing to do with damaging overall GDP. It's about damaging coastal communities. Whilst Macron is fighting the yellow vests and the pension protesters, the last thing he needs is the fishing communities up and down the french coast jumping on the protest bandwagon, as the french are prone to do with alacrity. Many of these coastal towns have no alternative forms of equivalent income. It will be a brave french politician that tells them the government is unconcerned because it only generates a small percentage of overall GDP in France.

Thank you for explaining it to the simple one. His experience is limited to shuffling paper in Whitehall, nothing in the real world. If he has any intelligence, it was left behind the moment signed the OSA.

Bunga Bob a Big Ben Bong

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

It has nothing to do with damaging overall GDP. It's about damaging coastal communities. Whilst Macron is fighting the yellow vests and the pension protesters, the last thing he needs is the fishing communities up and down the french coast jumping on the protest bandwagon, as the french are prone to do with alacrity. Many of these coastal towns have no alternative forms of equivalent income. It will be a brave french politician that tells them the government is unconcerned because it only generates a small percentage of overall GDP in France.

There is a long observed convention acknowledged by the international community that historical fishing grounds established through usage cannot be restricted unilaterally.

The point is, the French will not lose in any forthcoming conflict, only the English. And that is a racing certainty as indeed is the continuation of the Spanish fishing fleets who bought the fishing quotas from the Brits who cashed up and went to lie on a beach......in Spain.

The English can wave their increasingly tatty union jack as much as they want but there will be no renaissance of the fishing industry, an industry exceeded in value by the English mushroom cultivation. If they want to buy back into the industry they'll have to stump up with some serious dosh for the privilege.

Anyway, it is now looking likely services are to be excluded in the negotiations given The Bangla has definitively ruled out any alignment with EU regulations. So, goodbye to banking passporting and £30 billions of euro trade settlements in the EU by the City, and the death knell tolling for the end of frictionless trade has just been rung. So, goodbye to BMW, PSA and no doubt Toyota and Nissan..and of course Airbus.

Honestly, the sheer stupidity of this is beyond belief.

You sound like an amalgam of Napoleon and Hitler SA. Any relation? While oft pronounced throughout history, I feel that reports of the death of Brittania are premature, yet again.
The perfidious albion of shopkeepers will not have it's neck throttled like a chicken. Some chicken. Some neck.