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You two really are shameful anti-democrats.
As I keep repeating, imagine the Liberals win and revoke - what state will Britain be in then??? Worse than any possible Brexit outcome is the answer... Now, you'll have the Brexit party ramping up and 17.4 million voters, plus additional people that want democratic promises to be followed through, angry and feeling belittled by a minority in London. Due to the irresponsible actions of the minority who choose to work on behalf of the EU rather than the British electorate majority, it will get a lot worse now.
Cycling should be banned!!!
These people, full of spine and courage according to some, are now avoiding a General Election.
They will only maybe accept a GE by trying to parallel the EU's stance: force a deal through parliament before a general election saying what an elected party can and cannot do on Brexit...
This constant support of standing up for democracy and giving the say to the people is a total lie - they have ignored the people at every point and will now try to block Borris calling an election this week... Their sole intention is to take the say away from the people. Why won't Labour and the Liberals support a general election now, today??? The reason is that the British people would vote in Borris' new Tory party who will Brexit (ironically, he would have the numbers in parliament to bring the EU to the negotiating table and get a deal...).
But, no, Labour and the Liberals don't like the idea of a GE where the people decide what Brexit is - they want to add a law or two to take options away from the people. The have lied endlessly and continue to do so.
1) Remoaners won't allow a second vote with two clear questions: leave now or revoke.
2) Remoaners won't allow a general election where the British people get to choose if their prefer leave now, more deal time or revoke,
The fools on here who claim the remoaners are acting in some democratic manner are rather limited in the thinking department...
Labour have called for a GE for the last 2 years, well they have it, now - no, they don't want it until they have fixed the Brexit result in parliament first. Hmmm, the party of the people, they say...
Your first sentence - what a silly 'argument'; actually quite a nasty underlying thinking process.
Your second sentence - when people lie endlessly and refuse to have a General Election to get a mandate from the people then the representative democracy has moved to something else...it has failed, been bought down from the self serving petite bourgeois.
But, you have never pretended to support democracy. Like Dr Bobby, you prefer your personal view to be dominant rather than the view of the populous via referendums or elections.
Apparently, when the GE comes, the Tories might put up a candidate in that terrible little oink, Berclow's, constituency. Sounds like a good idea to me because the speaker has politicised that position far beyond anybody else snd should be outta that job a.s.a.p. - he's past his retirement time already, but won't retire until he has stopped Brexit...
Bercow was disgraceful yesterday, I said Mogg would get to him but it was Gove he flipped at outing where his kids go to school, funnily enough I know how Gove feels after someone stalked down where my daughter goes to school or did and posted it on here.
well, that was a brutal defeat for Boris
propagation nicely backfired, next stop: Tories loses the GE
a new day, a new shitshow for Boris
PM in new Brexit battle after Commons vote defeat
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49574217
Boris Johnson faces a new battle in the Commons after his first vote as PM saw him lose to rebel Tories and opposition MPs who object to a no-deal Brexit.
The Commons voted 328 to 301 to take control of the agenda, allowing them to bring a bill requesting a Brexit delay.
The PM said he would call for a general election if he was forced to request an extension to the 31 October deadline.
MPs will now vote on the Brexit delay bill. If it passes, the vote on whether to hold an election will follow.
Jeremy Corbyn said the bill needed to be passed to take the no-deal option completely "off the table" before his party would support the call for a general election.
Under the Fixed Term Parliaments Act, a prime minister must have the backing of at least two-thirds of MPs before a general election can be called outside of the fixed five-year terms.
Downing Street said the 21 Tory MPs who rebelled in Tuesday's vote would have the whip removed, effectively expelling them from the parliamentary party and meaning they could not stand as Conservative candidates in the election.
those 21 rebels are not going to vote for GE if they can't run
So they don't want a no deal Brexit.
They don't want the deal on the table, knowing full well that they won't get another deal. They can't be that delusional that to believe in a different deal, can they?
It is hilarious.
The majority of MPs don't want a Brexit, they want to stay in the EU. However, the referendum result means they can't outwardly admit it. Instead they fail to agree on the terms of the withdrawal agreement and request a delay until the terms are agreed. The Irish backstop is a nice excuse but if a solution were ever to be found a plethora of other excuses will be found to keep kicking the can until everyone tires of Brexit.
Brexit was never more than a pipedream for the deluded.
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