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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Possibly, but with a majority of one and several Tory MPs likely to vote against the government, he is on thin ice. If an interim government is formed then brexit can be delayed until a more reasonable agreement can be made.
    You mean an extension, awwww...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    The only sensible approach is to leave with an agreed framework for future trade between the UK and the EU. The current idea of leaving without a deal is both messy and not in line with the referendum. It is the spoilt kid approach and doesn't belong in British politics.
    The best framework for future trade would be well served by a hard Brexit with no FWA.

    Done, and everything goes back on the table for future trade, but this time both parties are motivated to arrive at fair terms, one that desperately needs money to throw away while the other has a pile of it.

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    There is nothing in place regarding crucial issues like the N. Ire backstop.

    BoJo has not put anything forward!

    I know you'll mither on about the BBC, but here he is blatantly bullshitting on about the 'alternatives', while giving no detail whatsoever.

    The German MEP who sees right through him is worth listening to.

    Of course there must be an extension unless BJ can get real fast.


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    Not that I think he will succeed, but his strategy appears to be a bluff to the EU while covering his back by laying the ground to blame Parliament for obstructing his promise to deliver by 31 Oct.

    I hope he doesn't present a reworded May's surrender Treaty as his own work, with the real danger that Parliament, running scared as is, might just pass it.

    And such a fuss about prorogation for 5 weeks, look closer and he's effectively closing shop for less than a week; four working days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Not that I think he will succeed, but his strategy appears to be a bluff to the EU while covering his back by laying the ground to blame Parliament for obstructing his promise to deliver by 31 Oct.

    I hope he doesn't present a reworded May's surrender Treaty as his own work, with the real danger that Parliament, running scared as is, might just pass it.

    And such a fuss about prorogation for 5 weeks, look closer and he's effectively closing shop for less than a week; four working days.
    Well yes...he’s already voted in favour of May’s treaty. The prorogation is symbolic of how reality is so far apart from BREXIT dreams.

    When he said it was time to take back control people thought he was talking about the UK electorate being in control, not parliament being muzzled.

    Lies upon lies upon lies...that’s his house of cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    And yet you continue to claim (incorrectly) that none of this can happen without the EU's permission? So why are they bothering to try and stop something that the EU can fix so easily.
    Hoist by your own petard, powder monkey.
    because they are incompetent and have no clue what's going on at the EU level,

    the last thing they need is to witness the EU saving the UK again from their own self-destructing behavior, a sure win for the majority in the next GE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    Word on the street is there's gonna be massive disruption and protests all over the country.
    It'll make the poll tax riots look like a tea party

    We'll see
    unlikely, Brits are sheeps, they will take it silently from their glorious leaders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    unlikely, Brits are sheeps, they will take it silently from their glorious leaders
    Is that why as history shows we always kicked your ass (1066 being an exception) in wars and saved it in a couple more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    because they are incompetent and have no clue what's going on at the EU level,

    the last thing they need is to witness the EU saving the UK again from their own self-destructing behavior, a sure win for the majority in the next GE
    As usual, your post makes absolutely no sense at all, so i will try again. Just for you numb nuts.

    1. You claim that the UK cannot leave the EU without the permission of the member states. Yes, it's difficult to believe you said that but you did, on more than one occasion.

    2. Despite that stupid and blatant falsehood, why would the commission and it's de facto leaders, the Germans and the French, be trying so hard to keep the UK in the broken, collapsing EU?

    You might think that you answered that already. Read your reply again, and you might understand why it is that your answer is nonsense.

    Eurochav thicko strikes again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Is that why as history shows we always kicked your ass (1066 being an exception) in wars and saved it in a couple more?
    you never saved the ass of anyone, except barely you own. Next you are going to tell us that the UK liberated France all by herself

    what about France who saved you from collapse by granting you access to the CU after years of vetos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    There is nothing in place regarding crucial issues like the N. Ire backstop.

    BoJo has not put anything forward!

    I know you'll mither on about the BBC, but here he is blatantly bullshitting on about the 'alternatives', while giving no detail whatsoever.

    The German MEP who sees right through him is worth listening to.

    Of course there must be an extension unless BJ can get real fast.

    Not much point in putting forward aything. Just so the EC can reject it?

    It's a bit like a man who divides his time between Chiang Mai and the sandpit, reading the Guardian for answers. Answers to a question that doesn't affect him in the slightest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    As usual, your post makes absolutely no sense at all, so i will try again. Just for you numb nuts.

    1. You claim that the UK cannot leave the EU without the permission of the member states. Yes, it's difficult to believe you said that but you did, on more than one occasion.
    and you don't even see what's wrong with your statement? hello earth maybe you could prove me wrong with links etc... unless the truth hurts and you can't face it

    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    2. Despite that stupid and blatant falsehood, why would the commission and it's de facto leaders, the Germans and the French, be trying so hard to keep the UK in the broken, collapsing EU?
    falsehood? maybe you have evidence to the contrary? go head, show us

    and how is all this relevant with France and Germany keeping the UK in a broken EU? you have completely lost your marbles, old man

    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    You might think that you answered that already. Read your reply again, and you might understand why it is that your answer is nonsense.

    Eurochav thicko strikes again.
    speaking of losing it, here is another clear indication that you are not well

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    anyway, another day, let's see what Boris has for us today

    Boris, best PM ever !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    you never saved the ass of anyone, except barely you own. Next you are going to tell us that the UK liberated France all by herself
    Hitler assured his generals, turn back if they fire one shot in your general direction.

    And that is why France needed liberating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    and you don't even see what's wrong with your statement? hello earth maybe you could prove me wrong with links etc... unless the truth hurts and you can't face it


    falsehood? maybe you have evidence to the contrary? go head, show us

    and how is all this relevant with France and Germany keeping the UK in a broken EU? you have completely lost your marbles, old man



    speaking of losing it, here is another clear indication that you are not well
    Why do you insist on being such a complete buffoon?

    The reason there is nothing to support you claim in favour of the EU or the EC, is because no such mechanism exists. If it did, you would be able to find it and c&p it on here numbskull.

    It is a fantasy of your own making. THE EU CANNOT STOP BREXIT. Like you, they are completely powerless under the articles that they drafted and put into EU law. As much as you would like it to be true, the fact is, they have no means to stop brexit, other than bending over and taking it up the bum. Surely that thought pleases you?

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    There is no mechanism for a divorce where both parties are involved? are you really there?

    so what is Article 50 then? at one stage, both parties will have to agree to part, deal or no deal. Both parties, that is the UK and the EU, even for a no deal. Read the damn thing, you fool

    THE EU CANNOT STOP BREXIT.
    it doesn't need to, if no deal was found, and there is no vote by the EU27 for a no deal exit, then the default is REMAIN.

    You don't leave an agreement without a vote by both parties. What so hard to understand that you need both sides to agree for an exit. So far the EU has granted an exit with a deal, but not granted an exit with no deal.

    Eat that, old man

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    meanwhile Merckel is laughing as she has Boris by the balls,

    again my bet is Boris is either trying to force Doris deal to MPs or prepare for a FULL REVOKE when the legality of NO DEAL will be impossible to ignore, even for a blind Tory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Boris, best PM ever !!!
    Early days for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    There is no mechanism for a divorce where both parties are involved? are you really there?

    so what is Article 50 then? at one stage, both parties will have to agree to part, deal or no deal. Both parties, that is the UK and the EU, even for a no deal. Read the damn thing, you fool


    it doesn't need to, if no deal was found, and there is no vote by the EU27 for a no deal exit, then the default is REMAIN.

    You don't leave an agreement without a vote by both parties. What so hard to understand that you need both sides to agree for an exit. So far the EU has granted an exit with a deal, but not granted an exit with no deal.

    Eat that, old man
    You really are stupid beyond words, the Belgian version of bsnub. A50 is perfectly clear, if after 2 years no deal is reached then the country leaves with no deal. Try reading it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    There is no mechanism for a divorce where both parties are involved? are you really there?

    so what is Article 50 then? at one stage, both parties will have to agree to part, deal or no deal. Both parties, that is the UK and the EU, even for a no deal. Read the damn thing, you fool


    it doesn't need to, if no deal was found, and there is no vote by the EU27 for a no deal exit, then the default is REMAIN.

    You don't leave an agreement without a vote by both parties. What so hard to understand that you need both sides to agree for an exit. So far the EU has granted an exit with a deal, but not granted an exit with no deal.

    Eat that, old man
    The default is, and always has been leave for the UK. Why do you think the EU keeps extending the deadline? You fucking drunken stupid muppet?

    Produce the evidence to support your claim or fuck off. Simple really.

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    Imagine if the remoaners, with the help of the speaker, manage to take control of government next week and either:

    1) force through some kind of revoke bill.

    2) delay Brexit again.

    3) force a General Election.

    4) force a second referendum.

    At no point would any of those options be something the British people want or something that makes the situation better.

    Let's then imagine that through these mechanisms the HoP somehow manage to stop Brexit and just revoke. What then?

    Some bedwetting snowflakes seem to think that everything will be great, British people will be happy and out parliamentary system would be working again - all roses. In reality, and it's very obvious, the HoP/HoL would be in utter crisis and may not survive. 50%+ of the population will be absolutely livid and Britain will suffer a terrible depression as strikes, protests and riots ensue. Businesses would be in turmoil, unemployment rates would rise, there might even be martial law with soldiers on the streets and curfews.

    I just don't understand how any of the bedwetting remoaners cannot understand that there simply is no choice - we must leave, and now. You may not agree with Brexit, and you may not support Johnson as PM, but there is no solution other than Brexit on 31st October that doesn't lead to disaster.

    The first referendum was terrible, family members stopped talking to each other, another referendum would be even worse and surely become violent. Revoke would mean the end of the UK's parliamentary system.

    I'm sick and tired of the bedwetters wanting revoke - it simply isn't possible at this stage.
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    Parliament should be good viewing next week with Jacob Rees Mogg up against remoaner speaker Bercow. My money is on Mogg making Bercow lose the plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    The default is, and always has been leave for the UK. Why do you think the EU keeps extending the deadline? You fucking drunken stupid muppet?

    Produce the evidence to support your claim or fuck off. Simple really.
    we are extending the deadline so the UK can have their DEAL. EU is against NO DEAL, and because of that you will never leave because NO DEAL is not feasible for the EU and the UK.

    Why are you guys so blind and delusional over this? read Article 50, it's quite clear that NO DEAL was never the default option, only an option, and this option has to be voted with EU27

    and it's not there,
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    the EU27 is going to vote unlimited extension before OCT 31, basically REMAIN, so there is nothing you can do

    if the EU27 really wanted you to leave or go for hard Brexit, they would have a vote now to void Doris deal

    NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN, the EU wants the UK to fulfill all political and financial obligations it has

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    If had to choose one outcome would you prefer having a new referendum and voting to remain in the EU
    You all ready that that choice and it was to leave. FFS. Get over it you losers/remainers.

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