Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Simple Sybil showing how dumb he is again. The trouble with simpletons like you is you fail to take into account the massive cost to business of EU rules and regulations which ends up costing us all more, that is the true cost of the EU not the £250 mill net we send them every week.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

sheet for gross indecency in the 1960's

Still is in some Scandinavian countries

Originally Posted by buriramboy

The trouble with simpletons like you is you fail to take into account the massive cost to business of EU rules and regulations....

It is strange then ...how The Confederation of British Industry is 100% opposed to Brexit and how UK companies only started leaving the UK in their droves when Brexit seemed likely.

Not to mention the staunch Brexiteer, Jacob Rees-Mogg( Chair of the ERG ) ....who due to Brexit, moved all his assets to the safety and stability of the EU.

That's before we get to the shark attack on the GBP over the last 3 years.

Yes, but it's being part of the EU that hurts UK businesses ...right Buffy?

Originally Posted by foobar

It is strange then ...how The Confederation of British Industry is 100% opposed to Brexit and how UK companies only started leaving the UK in their droves when Brexit seemed likely.

Not to mention the staunch Brexiteer, Jacob Rees-Mogg( Chair of the ERG ) ....who due to Brexit, moved all his assets to the safety and stability of the EU.

That's before we get to the shark attack on the GBP over the last 3 years.

Yes, but it's being part of the EU that hurts UK businesses ...right Buffy?

I guess there was no winner today in the fight between you and simple Sybil for the family brain cell. Why do you think Europe has lower growth than other regions of the world? Why is it uncompetitive? I'll help you out here, rules and regulations that stifle business. Who you voting for FuFu, you seem to avoid answering for some reason.

Doris speech just now has just completely finished the Tory party, wouldn't surprise me to see the Brexit party top 35% of the vote on Thursday now, maybe higher if a low turnout.

Originally Posted by cyrille

THE EU COSTS YOU THE SAME AS NETFLIX

Yep, the death of yet another industry

'One last chance' to get Brexit done, says PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48357017

Theresa May has told MPs they have "one last chance" to deliver Brexit, as she set out a "new Brexit deal".

MPs will get a vote on whether to hold another referendum if they back the EU Withdrawal Agreement Bill, she said.

The bill also contains new guarantees on workers' rights, environmental protections and the Irish backstop as well a customs "compromise".

If MPs reject the bill, she warned them a negotiated exit would be "dead in the water" and Brexit could be stopped.

MPs have rejected the withdrawal agreement negotiated with the EU three times.

In what is seen as a last roll of the dice, Mrs May is now bringing the Withdrawal Agreement Bill - legislation required to bring the agreement into UK law - to Parliament in early June

in case someone missed it,

If MPs reject the bill, she warned them a negotiated exit would be "dead in the water" and Brexit could be stopped.

game over Brexit

The European Parliament's advisory committee will look at whether Mr Farage broke rules by accepting funding from Leave campaigner Arron Banks.

Nigel Farage said he did not declare the £450,000 sum to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.

Can I ask those that are currently working in the UK if they have to clock-in and clock-out every day and a rough idea of skill level...no details just professional, skilled labour or non-skilled.

I ask because the Germans have been enforcing a 10-hour rule that favours the employer not the employee and it appears the EU are trying to enforce clock-in, clock-out for everyone. I am absolutely against such regimented rules and even more so when they favour the emploer to the point workers carry on unpaid and possibly uninsured after the time limit.


These rules kill productivity, kill creativity, and kill competition. These rules are so bad that they alone are a good reason for voting Brexit. I personally lose out 30% of my earnings or 3-4 months time-off per year due to rules designed to turn people into mindless fooking robots...

That's no reason for voting for Farage though, who is only interested in making his fame and fortune out of this shite...

May as well face it Troy, the western party is over:

Jack Ma, founder of e-commerce giant Alibaba (BABA), has spoken out on social media in recent days in support of the Chinese work practice known as "996." The number refers to working from 9 am to 9 pm six days a week and is said to be common....

I read somewhere else, that everything worked above 40hrs is unpaid to conform to China's labour laws.

How can the EU compete?

If you are struggling in the economic success that is Germany, just imagine what working conditions are like in the rest of the EU.

Not to mention the bonfire of worker's rights the Tories have planned, one of the main reasons why hardcore Tories want Brexit so much is to escape from under EU working standards.

^ As a professional I was able to work 16 hours a day in the US, Asia and UK, seven days a week, and in the EU 6 days a week, until two years ago.Things changed dramatically in Germany with a 10-hour day being rigidly enforced and only 5 days a week. Recently, they have reduced it to a 35-hour fooking week, which is only just above 2 days in old money...

^So the hourly rate hasn't changed, just the limit on the number of hours you can work?

Originally Posted by Troy

^ As a professional I was able to work 16 hours a day in the US, Asia and UK, seven days a week, and in the EU 6 days a week, until two years ago.Things changed dramatically in Germany with a 10-hour day being rigidly enforced and only 5 days a week. Recently, they have reduced it to a 35-hour fooking week, which is only just above 2 days in old money...

So you resent the Germans for forcing you to spend more time with your family? At your age unless got debts to clear you should be happy with a 35h week.

^ Silly fooker...

I used to work long hours to get 4 months a year off with the wife's family. Looks like I'll have to go back to working in the US again.

I don't see any downside.
You can go self employed with your free time if you need more money, you're hourly rate should increase if you play it right, and it adds flex into your working life. It means not all your eggs are in one basket ..because who knows what the future holds in these turbulent times.

Or fook off all together and go self employed if being controlled is not your thing.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ Silly fooker...

I used to work long hours to get 4 months a year off with the wife's family. Looks like I'll have to go back to working in the US again.

Engineer of some sort arent you if I remember? Then why not go work offshore and only work 6 months of the year, month on month off and can base yourself in Thailand.

^^ I was self-employed!! They banned it two years ago due to union pressure.

^^ I think I'll be moving back to Boeing They look like they could do with some control system engineers...

Obviously the UK has the working time directive which states you can only work so many hours a week 48 I think but I'll stand corrected on that but you can sign your rights away so free to work as many as you want. If I have nothing better to do especially through the winter I generally do 60h weeks. Had a 4 month contract last year think ended up doing on average 320h a month.

^ The EU directive, which the UK now has to adopt, is an average 48 hours per week over a 4 month period. It also means 10 hours per day and a 24 hour break after six days, not necessarily Sunday. However, these rules are not so rigidly enforced and are for the benefit of employees not employers.

The rules are stupid and being turned to favour employers who don't pay after 10 hours but expect people to continue working. It destroys the working relationship and the importance of individual choice of working arrangements.

None of that shit in the UK, they cant force you to work over 48h and every hour worked you get paid for. I always sign my rights away as I'm happy to binge work then enjoy my time off, generally I only like to work 8-9 months of the year but think only had 2 weeks off in last 12 months due to doing a solid 4 month contract then going straight into current job about 6 months ago. Due a 2-3 month break soon.

Originally Posted by Troy

^^ I was self-employed!! They banned it two years ago due to union pressure.

that's funny, same here in France about 10 years ago, and same 35h non-sense for the last 10 years

a lot of high skilled worked weren't happy and fucked off,

now we only employ low skilled low paid North African engineers and everything has gone to shit !!!

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Obviously the UK has the working time directive which states you can only work so many hours a week 48 I think but I'll stand corrected on that but you can sign your rights away so free to work as many as you want. If I have nothing better to do especially through the winter I generally do 60h weeks. Had a 4 month contract last year think ended up doing on average 320h a month.

I think 60h a week in British chavs terms is the equivalent of a 35h a week in Germany or France

Did the prime minister just make it worse? It hardly seems that would have been possible.

Her agreement with the EU had been sharply kicked out several times by MPs. She'd promised that she would quit and get out of the way if that bought more support. Then she took the risk of talking to the political enemy to try to get a different deal.

But those measures failed - leaving her hope this time to dangle a bauble to each of Parliament's different Brexit tribes in the much more extensive plan of how she'd actually put our departure into law.

But even before she started talking, many MPs simply weren't listening.