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    So, the fuckup that is Brexit is the fault of a distant war, a disease every other swinging dick has forgotten about and the White House?
    Tax, have you no shame?
    It’s a disaster brought upon the country by the stupid and credulous deceived by the arrogant and deluded.
    You have lost well over 15% of your annual total value in traded goods in re-erecting trade barriers with your nearest neighbours 22 miles distant numbering a market potential of 450 million consumers who all share your cultural and social proclivities.This cannot be made up by trading with an imaginary market of assorted coons, savages and nignogs or Americans.
    Get your head out of your arse Tax, wipe your nose, rub your eyes and see the fucking world as it is.
    And for the umpteenth time of asking, what is it you are going to sell to the fucking world now that you couldn’t before Brexit, you silly geriatric.
    In every sector of the economy there has been a reduction in value. Our labour supply has been choked off and debt is anathema.
    Brexit was a mistake and one that has been compounded by fucking idiots incapable of accepting they were wrong to have supported it.
    Tax, the world is laughing at you.
    You are a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    So, the fuckup that is Brexit is the fault of a distant war, a disease every other swinging dick has forgotten about and the White House?
    Tax, have you no shame?
    It’s a disaster brought upon the country by the stupid and credulous deceived by the arrogant and deluded.
    You have lost well over 15% of your annual total value in traded goods in re-erecting trade barriers with your nearest neighbours 22 miles distant numbering a market potential of 450 million consumers who all share your cultural and social proclivities.This cannot be made up by trading with an imaginary market of assorted coons, savages and nignogs or Americans.
    Get your head out of your arse Tax, wipe your nose, rub your eyes and see the fucking world as it is.
    And for the umpteenth time of asking, what is it you are going to sell to the fucking world now that you couldn’t before Brexit, you silly geriatric.
    In every sector of the economy there has been a reduction in value. Our labour supply has been choked off and debt is anathema.
    Brexit was a mistake and one that has been compounded by fucking idiots incapable of accepting they were wrong to have supported it.
    Tax, the world is laughing at you.
    You are a joke.
    good Lord, has another key broken on your keyboard?

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    It’s a disaster brought upon the country by the stupid and credulous deceived by the arrogant and deluded.
    For gods sake man, take off those blinkers, open your eyes, discard your illogical prejudices and see the light.



    Pitiful UK growth cannot be blamed on Brexit.


    Pro-Brussels obsessives have deluded themselves into thinking the only way to boost the economy is to rejoin the EU

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    11 February 2023 • 10:00pm

    Britain’s noisy band of pro-EU obsessives rarely need an excuse to launch yet another attack on Brexit, but in recent months their arguments have become more hysterical than ever.

    Every bit of bad economic news is turned into a further reason to abandon the UK’s newfound independence and to return to the European fold.

    For people who give every impression of considering themselves intellectually superior to their fellow voters, they show remarkably little curiosity about the true causes of Britain’s economic woes – or indeed the world beyond our borders.

    Their latest piece of “evidence” is the UK supposedly being the only major economy whose GDP is still lower than it was pre-pandemic. This, they argue, is solely due to leaving the EU. As the economist Julian Jessop has convincingly pointed out, they are plain wrong. For example, the Spanish economy – which, like the UK, endured a harder hit in 2020 than other European countries – has similarly failed to recover its lost ground.

    Britain has also been particularly badly affected by the energy crisis because the way that energy prices are set makes us especially vulnerable to surging gas costs. The UK data may look worse than that of other countries because our national statisticians measure the output of public services more accurately. Public sector productivity, incidentally, has collapsed in recent years – a domestic failure that even the most fanatical Rejoiner would struggle to blame on Brexit.

    Not that any of this will matter to those who want to drag the UK back into Brussels’ orbit. They have convinced themselves that the only policy change that will have any impact on the UK’s economic growth rate is rejoining the single market and customs union. They have no answer when it is pointed out that the UK economy performed appallingly during the period when it was most closely aligned with that of the EU: between the financial crisis and Brexit. Theirs is an ideological conviction that Britain is incapable of governing itself.

    So they are not interested in promoting policies that might compensate for any short-term economic cost from leaving the EU, particularly the consequences of Brussels’ ultra-protectionist restrictions on trade. There was nothing inevitable about the barriers that the Eurocrats decided to erect to trade with Britain, their largest export market, for all their pious talk about protecting the “integrity” of the single market. They rejected perfectly sensible proposals for mutual recognition of standards and regulations, in part because they were determined to punish the UK for daring to break away.

    Knowing that this was always likely to be Brussels’ attitude, British governments should have spent the past seven years pursuing massively pro-growth changes to domestic policy – across tax, regulation, welfare, and even monetary policy – in order to radically improve the country’s competitiveness. Instead, they have gone in the opposite direction, most recently with the ludicrous decision to increase the rate of corporation tax, which is vanishingly unlikely to raise the sums of money the Treasury believes while driving business and investment overseas.

    If the Conservative Party loses the next general election, as everyone – including the Government – seems resigned to, not only will they be replaced by a party even more prone to imposing damaging new taxes on innovation, work and enterprise, but one whose commitment to staying outside the EU is highly dubious. The Brexit dream is being squandered, and time is running out to save it from being extinguished forever.

    The Telegraph.

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    Tax, will you please kindly desist from cutting and pasting utter tripe from that silly propagandising rag that no-one of any intelligence either reads or believes.
    Brexit created barriers to trade erected by the Tories who under the ERG diktat withdrew from not only the single market but the customs union, and is in the process of dismantling our entire socio-economic legislative framework that led to our successful membership of the worldís greatest economic trading bloc.
    Look, which bit of the manufacturing sector accounts for 9% of UKís GDP, 49% of which was derived from trade with the EU do you dinosaurs not fucking understand.
    The UK is fucked.
    Just accept it, take whatís coming and enjoy.
    I said Sterling devaluation was an inevitable consequence of Brexit together with stagflation. It will not go away.
    Trussonomics of course turbo charged the spiral but it will remain a feature.
    Cutting ourselves off from unfettered trade with 450 million customers a mere 22 miles distant and excluding them from our labour supply was a catastrophe.
    You guys fucked up.
    Eat it up and take the fucking consequences like a man and stop this fucking moaning about those nasty-wasty foreigners not wanting to tickle your bloody arse anymore - youíre out of the club, go suck Asian cock, why donít you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Theirs is an ideological conviction that Britain is incapable of governing itself.
    Five PMs since the Brexit referendum speaks for itself...


    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    The Brexit dream is being squandered,
    The "Brexit dream" has turned out to be the nightmare those looking at it objectively predicted.

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    Fook me next you'll be arguing about the merits or not of the norman invasion. Its history good or bad. Move on FFS. Your whinning pissing and moaning has changed what in the last 7 years? ZERO!!!!!! Noone will really know for at least 10 years covid and Russia have seen to that.

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    What is it that you think will happen in the next decade that will offset the disaster of Brexit?

    Brexit was not some inevitable historical imperative developed from supranational forces altering the trajectory of our post industrial revolution and fall of empire. It was nothing other than an aberration triggered by domestic politics whereby the stupid combined with the bigoted under the banner of jingoistic prejudice and xenophobia.

    It can and will be undone not least because even the dumbest English twat who voted for it realises it was a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Tax, will you please kindly desist from cutting and pasting utter tripe from that silly propagandising rag that no-one of any intelligence either reads or believes.
    Brexit created barriers to trade erected by the Tories who under the ERG diktat withdrew from not only the single market but the customs union, and is in the process of dismantling our entire socio-economic legislative framework that led to our successful membership of the world’s greatest economic trading bloc.
    Look, which bit of the manufacturing sector accounts for 9% of UK’s GDP, 49% of which was derived from trade with the EU do you dinosaurs not fucking understand.
    The UK is fucked.
    Just accept it, take what’s coming and enjoy.
    I said Sterling devaluation was an inevitable consequence of Brexit together with stagflation. It will not go away.
    Trussonomics of course turbo charged the spiral but it will remain a feature.
    Cutting ourselves off from unfettered trade with 450 million customers a mere 22 miles distant and excluding them from our labour supply was a catastrophe.
    You guys fucked up.
    Eat it up and take the fucking consequences like a man and stop this fucking moaning about those nasty-wasty foreigners not wanting to tickle your bloody arse anymore - you’re out of the club, go suck Asian cock, why don’t you.
    You continue to make the same intakes inevery diatribe. The EU is not a sovereign state. It is an amalgam of loosely coupled countries, some of who do reasonably well, and others who hold it back. Hiding behind the EU badge covers up the paucity of national economic excellence enjoyed by only a few large member states.

    It hides the threadbare economy of countries like Greece, Italy, and the balic states, along with the reluctance and itrabsigence of Hungary and Poland.

    Stop pretending it is a collective success, when, quite clearly,it isn’t.

    Resume your faulty rant whenever you want, just stop being a twat about it.
    Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.

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    There are many reasons why BREXIT was a mind numbingly stupid idea as we can judge it now, not in ten years time.

    Below, a notorious lefty explains...

    Last edited by cyrille; 12-02-2023 at 04:03 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    You continue to make the same intakes inevery diatribe. The EU is not a sovereign state. It is an amalgam of loosely coupled countries, some of who do reasonably well, and others who hold it back. Hiding behind the EU badge covers up the paucity of national economic excellence enjoyed by only a few large member states.

    It hides the threadbare economy of countries like Greece, Italy, and the balic states, along with the reluctance and itrabsigence of Hungary and Poland.

    Stop pretending it is a collective success, when, quite clearly,it isnít.

    Resume your faulty rant whenever you want, just stop being a twat about it.
    You gormless, addled headed old fool, in 2021 Italyís manufacturing output was valued at $314 billion dollars, 14.9% of GDP, whereas in Brokendownbrexitbritain it was $274 billions, 8.7% of GDP.

    You silly old xenophobic Engerlandia grunters still wallow in your daft old prejudices, donít you.

    Chas, Englandís a fuckup, an economy with a slow puncture that is Brexit.

    Back to being the sick man of Europe and itís only three years since Brexit.

    Har, har. You English, so fucking stupid,

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    There are many reasons why BREXIT was a mind numbingly stupid idea as we can judge it now, not in ten years time.

    Below, a notorious lefty explains...

    The only more useless Brit than him I can think of is you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    You gormless, addled headed old fool, in 2021 Italy’s manufacturing output was valued at $314 billion dollars, 14.9% of GDP, whereas in Brokendownbrexitbritain it was $274 billions, 8.7% of GDP.

    You silly old xenophobic Engerlandia grunters still wallow in your daft old prejudices, don’t you.

    Chas, England’s a fuckup, an economy with a slow puncture that is Brexit.

    Back to being the sick man of Europe and it’s only three years since Brexit.

    Har, har. You English, so fucking stupid,
    Thank you for doing exactly what I asked and expected.

    You choose to ignore anything that does not fit your persistent but boring narrative. Your ignorance is truly astonishing. EU is great, and anywhere outside the EU is a bit shit.

    Well, as someone once coined the phrase, ‘ignorance is bliss’ you make sure you continue such blissful and willful ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    The only more useless Brit than him I can think of is you.
    That’s the level of ‘input’ that you bring.

    You didn’t even know BREXIT had happened until six months later.

    You have already demonstrated countless times that you haven’t got a clue on this topic, you silly old duffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    That’s the level of ‘input’ that you bring.

    You didn’t even know BREXIT had happened until six months later.

    You have already demonstrated countless times that you haven’t got a clue on this topic, you silly old duffer.
    Oh my. The irony of yet another shallow brained socialist with tunnel vision. If only he were honest and had a reputation..

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    And I don't even need to read that to know you're just chuntering on in your usual witless fashion.

    Anything but talk about all of those BREXIT promises that were total

    £350 million for the NHS per week, anyone?


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    Somewhat amusingly the Brexit loons, Farage, Frost and Redwood, are claiming that the current Tory participation in cross party discussions on restoring a more constructive relationship with the EU is a “sellout “.
    Now, I know Brexiteers are quite stupid, utterly deluded and generally hidebound but in what fucking universe would you actually describe an attempt to extricate yourself from an economic disaster that has incurred losses of £100 billions annually, haemorrhaged over half a million workers away from the economy and devalued your currency by 20% as a “ sellout “.

    They really are a fucking death cult of the terminally stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    You gormless, addled headed old fool, in 2021 Italy’s manufacturing output was valued at $314 billion dollars, 14.9% of GDP, whereas in Brokendownbrexitbritain it was $274 billions, 8.7% of GDP.

    You silly old xenophobic Engerlandia grunters still wallow in your daft old prejudices, don’t you.

    Chas, England’s a fuckup, an economy with a slow puncture that is Brexit.

    Back to being the sick man of Europe and it’s only three years since Brexit.

    Har, har. You English, so fucking stupid,
    The figures you quoted for Italy and UK comparison are for the manufacturing aspect of GDP.

    Services in UK have resumed an increased proportion of GDP. I wonder why your choices are so selective. I wonder why you choose to ignore all the other EU basket case economies that I mentioned.

    For sure UK is struggling right now, along with many other countries. The saving grace for UK is that it will never have to put up with spineless wankers like you and Cyrille.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Services in UK have resumed an increased proportion of GDP. I wonder why your choices are so selective.
    You are welcome to show the effects of Brexit, since 2016, on the Service Sector.

    Spoiler Alert...The figures are not good and expected to get worse rather than better.

    You are also welcome to show all the benefits of Brext, which I have must have missed.

    It's time for the UK to swallow its pride and admit the stupid mistake it made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    It's time for the UK to swallow its pride and admit the stupid mistake it made.
    Pride is often the reason folks and governments do things that are not at all in their best interests. Brexit just another in a long history of pride driven actions bringing loss to a nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    You are welcome to show the effects of Brexit, since 2016, on the Service Sector.

    Spoiler Alert...The figures are not good and expected to get worse rather than better.

    You are also welcome to show all the benefits of Brext, which I have must have missed.

    It's time for the UK to swallow its pride and admit the stupid mistake it made.
    Just pointing out SA’s fixation with one aspect of current GDP.
    Services took a hit immediately after the referendum. They then climbed back above the pre referendum rate as a proportion of GDP.
    Why else would he point to the manufacturing element of GDP? It suits his narrative to do it that way.

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    'The UK has suffered a loss in business investment since the 2016 Brexit referendum of £29 billion, according to a study by a senior Bank of England official'.

    http://https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/13/brexit-hit-uk-growth-by-29bn-says-bank-of-england-rate-setter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Just pointing out SA’s fixation with one aspect of current GDP.
    Services took a hit immediately after the referendum. They then climbed back above the pre referendum rate as a proportion of GDP.
    Why else would he point to the manufacturing element of GDP? It suits his narrative to do it that way.
    You dribbling old fool, services sector grew in relation to the rest because the rest fucking shrank, you dozy twat.
    Manufacturing, fisheries, processed food production, agriculture, SMEs, the NHS, hotels, pubs and restaurants, you name it, all fucked by Brexit.
    It’s what happens when you rip up an economy based on unfettered trade and free movement with a market of 27 countries populated by 450 millions a two hour ferry ride from your largest port that handled over 18% of Britain’s entire trade in goods, an economy established for over 43 years.
    And all done without any plan, any strategy or doctrine beyond cheap rhetoric and fantasies woven from the deranged minds of charlatans and poundland demagogues.
    There is no good news, only the promise of less pain, the future is grim, another lost decade is heralded and for what?
    A stupid fucking idea sold to the ignorant and lumpen by a bunch of self serving creeps most of whom never believed the British would be THAT fucking dumb to believe them.
    Chas, the next ten years for Blighty will be at best a period of rehabilitation and little else.
    Brexit losses by 2025 will amount to £1 trillion.

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    Hang on...is twitch actually claiming a 'BREXIT gain' because services made up a bigger proportion of GDP?

    GDP which shrank faster than a rent boy's knob when he shows up?

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    Indeed, he is. He, like all Brexiteers, is really that stupid.

    Next to a tattoo on the forehead proclaiming “ I am a twat “, knowing that someone voted to Brexit or supports it is the current best indicator of idiocy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Indeed, he is. He, like all Brexiteers, is really that stupid.

    Next to a tattoo on the forehead proclaiming “ I am a twat “, knowing that someone voted to Brexit or supports it is the current best indicator of idiocy.
    No he isn’t. As neither of you can read or comprehend, I will repeat.

    SA chooses to highlight Italian manufacturing figures in a gdp comparison. Because that best suits his narrative.

    I point out that, apart from a period post referendum, services gdp has continued to rise ever since. I made no comparison with manufacturing here, or elswhere. Stop jumping to false conclusions.

    If Cyrille had anything ‘emotive or insightful’ to contribute, I might consider a reply to him, but he never does.

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