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    ‘No US-UK deal. PERIOD’ – Biden ally channels his Irish roots and slams UK’s Internal Market Bill

    10 Nov, 2020 13:07

    "A Democrat Congressman has warned Britain’s PM Boris Johnson that there will be no trade deal between a Biden administration and the UK if Westminster pushes ahead with its Internal Market Bill.

    Pennsylvania Representative Brendan Boyle told the UK’s Channel 4 News that the Democrats would rule out a trade deal between the US and the UK if Boris Johnson’s government implements the controversial Internal Market Bill
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    If the UK moves forwards with this Internal Market Bill and decides to whip up the withdrawal agreement they negotiated and signed less than a year ago, then there will be no US-UK trade deal… Period.

    Boyle, who is of Irish decent, stated that President-elect, Joe Biden, wanted the UK to extract itself from the European Union in a way that would not impact the Good Friday Agreement, adding that the Internal Market Bill is “a clear red line for us, for President-elect Biden and Speaker Pelosi.”

    Biden and the Democrats have been very clear in their demands for the UK not to renege on the 2019 Northern Ireland Protocol, which aimed to prevent the creation of a hard border on the island of Ireland when Britain transitions out of the EU on December 31. The Internal Market Bill aims to ensure Northern Ireland remains in a customs union with the rest of the UK, potentially meaning a hard border with the Republic of Ireland.

    As such, the prospect of a trade deal between the UK and US appears greatly reduced under a Biden administration. President Trump, a son of a Scottish born housewife, had talked up the chances of a deal between the age-old allies.

    Prominent British politician, Nigel Farage, said on Saturday that the UK has missed its chance to do a deal with the pro-UK Trump. Farage tweeted “As you can see from this clip, Biden hates the UK,” as he shared a video of Biden turning down an interview with the BBC, proclaiming “The BBC? I’m Irish.”

    Biden’s ancestral links to Ireland are far from recent with the Irish Times noting that his ancestors left for America in the 1840s and 1850s.

    First on the agenda for the UK is the conclusion of a post-Brexit trade deal with the EU. Negotiations are intensifying again this week with EU chief negotiator, Michel Barnier back in London to thrash out an agreement on fisheries, dispute resolution and state aid."

    ‘No US-UK deal. PERIOD’ – Biden ally channels his Irish roots and slams UK’s Internal Market Bill — RT UK News
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    You cant even be bothered to make shit up anymore. Just go straight to personal insults. How reassuring.
    Who is making things up, you dolt? I quoted from Fat Cow's own post of 19353 you dribbling oaf. The only reassurance you need is a fucking nappy.

    Anyway, as i have said over many weeks, BoJo and his festival of clowns will have no deal with the Americans if they breach the WA protocols in respect of NI, the GFA and the RoI.
    Looks like the internal-let's-fuck-over-the-Withdrawal Agreement-market bill is destined for the U-Turn trash heap that represents current Tory/Brexshit policy.

    Britain either sucks EU cock when it's told or you is fucked.

    Period.

    As our Dem. chums have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Who is making things up, you dolt? I quoted from Fat Cow's own post of 19353 you dribbling oaf. The only reassurance you need is a fucking nappy.

    Anyway, as i have said over many weeks, BoJo and his festival of clowns will have no deal with the Americans if they breach the WA protocols in respect of NI, the GFA and the RoI.
    Looks like the internal-let's-fuck-over-the-Withdrawal Agreement-market bill is destined for the U-Turn trash heap that represents current Tory/Brexshit policy.

    Britain either sucks EU cock when it's told or you is fucked.

    Period.

    As our Dem. chums have it.
    Very poor impression of Windsor Davies. As usual, your post is littered with ifs and buts.
    Nice to see you have your fantasy mojo back.
    The post of yours that I quoted was laden with insults and nothing else. Top form for you

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    My post incorporated a quote from Fat Cow belying his subsequent bollocks, you dull witted idiot. A case of res ipso loquitur but of course that would presume some intelligence in the reader.

    I rather think you should get yourself back to Blighty and get your synaptic linguine analysed for amyloid plaques etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    My post incorporated a quote from Fat Cow belying his subsequent bollocks, you dull witted idiot. A case of res ipso loquitur but of course that would presume some intelligence in the reader.

    I rather think you should get yourself back to Blighty and get your synaptic linguine analysed for amyloid plaques etc.
    I can return to blighty when I want to. You on the other hand ........

    ..... are an unwanted slag, with nothing to recommend your return, other than in an urn. Even that is pushing it.
    Just fuck off and die, you objectionable turd.

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    Looks like bo-jo has lost on both fronts now.

    Is there another move or is it checkmate and no deal with the EU or the USA.

    Time to backpedal??

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    What was Joe Bidens tweet about the Good Friday agreement all about ? It was one of the first things the demented seppo boomer retard tweeted as president elect

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    ^ Cue clueless ...

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    The Brexshit Tory arseholes might try to plough on and assert their detachment from reality by sealing trade pacts with Vanuatu and Belize in preference to the EU and Uncle Joe, they're that fucking inept.
    It really is quite amusing, isn't it? After four years it has come to this: a ginormous lorry park in Kent acting as a huge fucking sleeping policeman hampering access to the EU markets worth over 250 billions annually, equating to 48% of Britain's entire manufacturing output, because of a few poxy fishing rights worth little more than a boiled haddock, rights that can never be protected because the English have a Pugwash navy the French will sink in a heartbeat. And what price is this grievous act of economic self harm? Yep, they're going to save 9 billions a year in EU membership contributions but rip off British traders by charging them over 16 billions annually in HMRC tariff fees.

    Truly the dumbest government in modern British history elected by the dumbest voting population in the developed world imposing the greatest act of socio-economic folly since Russia sold off Alaska to the US.

    So appropriate that the English have a dribbling, bumbling, fat-arsed buffoon for a PM whose only skill is to lie and cheat so he can get to have a shag on the sly and shack up with a horse-faced binte the age of his daughter who could chew a fucking apple through a tennis racquet.

    Seedy, sleazy, decrepit and dysfunctional.

    BrokndownbrexshitBritain indeed.

    Oh, and that barometer of success, the sterling, is back down to 39 baht.
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    ^ I'm afraid the amusement has gone now it is close to the long drawn out, and soon to be bitter, end. I'm too old to go through any extra hoops the Vogons may lay in my path and too peeved to return to Blighty. It's time to grow rice and look after a few chickens instead...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Seedy, sleazy, decrepit and dysfunctional.
    Add the word ‘deluded’ and you have described yourself to a T.

    Interesting that while the sterling rate for THB is falling, both dollar and Euro are enjoying excellent exchange rates. No where near your oft forecasted ‘parity’.
    Typical of your forecasting accuracy. Remove the personal sleights, and what have you got? A bitter, retired old fart who enjoys living in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The Brexshit Tory arseholes might try to plough on and assert their detachment from reality by sealing trade pacts with Vanuatu and Belize in preference to the EU and Uncle Joe, they're that fucking inept.
    It really is quite amusing, isn't it? After four years it has come to this: a ginormous lorry park in Kent acting as a huge fucking sleeping policeman hampering access to the EU markets worth over 250 billions annually, equating to 48% of Britain's entire manufacturing output, because of a few poxy fishing rights worth little more than a boiled haddock, rights that can never be protected because the English have a Pugwash navy the French will sink in a heartbeat. And what price is this grievous act of economic self harm? Yep, they're going to save 9 billions a year in EU membership contributions but rip off British traders by charging them over 16 billions annually in HMRC tariff fees.

    Truly the dumbest government in modern British history elected by the dumbest voting population in the developed world imposing the greatest act of socio-economic folly since Russia sold off Alaska to the US.

    So appropriate that the English have a dribbling, bumbling, fat-arsed buffoon for a PM whose only skill is to lie and cheat so he can get to have a shag on the sly and shack up with a horse-faced binte the age of his daughter who could chew a fucking apple through a tennis racquet.

    Seedy, sleazy, decrepit and dysfunctional.

    BrokndownbrexshitBritain indeed.

    Oh, and that barometer of success, the sterling, is back down to 39 baht.
    Lol at Russia selling Alaska. It was gun boat diplomacy. Under threat of war

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    It was gun boat diplomacy. Under threat of war
    From who ?
    Britain ?

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    Whatever uncle Joe might say, and no matter how spuriously he claims attachment to his distant ancestors from Ireland (who feel absolutely no kinship to him), it changes nothing. It is the duty of the incumbent UK government to deliver Brexit, as per the People's mandate. Or are we all closet Trumpistas now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ‘No US-UK deal. PERIOD’ – Biden ally channels his Irish roots and slams UK’s Internal Market Bill

    10 Nov, 2020 13:07

    "A Democrat Congressman has warned Britain’s PM Boris Johnson that there will be no trade deal between a Biden administration and the UK if Westminster pushes ahead with its Internal Market Bill.

    Pennsylvania Representative Brendan Boyle told the UK’s Channel 4 News that the Democrats would rule out a trade deal between the US and the UK if Boris Johnson’s government implements the controversial Internal Market Bill
    .
    If the UK moves forwards with this Internal Market Bill and decides to whip up the withdrawal agreement they negotiated and signed less than a year ago, then there will be no US-UK trade deal… Period.

    Boyle, who is of Irish decent, stated that President-elect, Joe Biden, wanted the UK to extract itself from the European Union in a way that would not impact the Good Friday Agreement, adding that the Internal Market Bill is “a clear red line for us, for President-elect Biden and Speaker Pelosi.”

    Biden and the Democrats have been very clear in their demands for the UK not to renege on the 2019 Northern Ireland Protocol, which aimed to prevent the creation of a hard border on the island of Ireland when Britain transitions out of the EU on December 31. The Internal Market Bill aims to ensure Northern Ireland remains in a customs union with the rest of the UK, potentially meaning a hard border with the Republic of Ireland.

    As such, the prospect of a trade deal between the UK and US appears greatly reduced under a Biden administration. President Trump, a son of a Scottish born housewife, had talked up the chances of a deal between the age-old allies.

    Prominent British politician, Nigel Farage, said on Saturday that the UK has missed its chance to do a deal with the pro-UK Trump. Farage tweeted “As you can see from this clip, Biden hates the UK,” as he shared a video of Biden turning down an interview with the BBC, proclaiming “The BBC? I’m Irish.”

    Biden’s ancestral links to Ireland are far from recent with the Irish Times noting that his ancestors left for America in the 1840s and 1850s.

    First on the agenda for the UK is the conclusion of a post-Brexit trade deal with the EU. Negotiations are intensifying again this week with EU chief negotiator, Michel Barnier back in London to thrash out an agreement on fisheries, dispute resolution and state aid."

    ‘No US-UK deal. PERIOD’ – Biden ally channels his Irish roots and slams UK’s Internal Market Bill — RT UK News
    Another enlightening and of course totally unbiased piece of reporting from Russia Today (RT).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    Another enlightening and of course totally unbiased piece of reporting from Russia Today (RT).
    being from RT it is of course biased but can you point out any error(s) in the article?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    being from RT it is of course biased but can you point out any error(s) in the article?
    Actually I can, in respect of the "The Internal Market Bill aims to ensure Northern Ireland remains in a customs union with the rest of the UK, potentially meaning a hard border with the Republic of Ireland." The IMB will facilitate trade between NI and the rest of the UK, tarrif free, only in the event that the EU doesn't agree a deal with the UK. Again for clarity, a hard border North and South will only be imposed by the EU. Biden and the Democrats would be better canvassing Brussels rather than London.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    The IMB will facilitate trade between NI and the rest of the UK, tarrif free, only in the event that the EU doesn't agree a deal with the UK
    but not in the event that UK doesn't agree a deal with EU? You a bit biased?
    There is no legal limitation on how and when the IMB can be used, your "only in the event" is not worth the paper it isn't written on..


    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    Biden and the Democrats would be better canvassing Brussels rather than London.
    Biden and the Democrats are canvassing the ones who signed a WA and then broke the agreement with a bill that overrules the WA.
    EU can not withdraw the IMB, UK can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    but not in the event that UK doesn't agree a deal with EU? You a bit biased?
    There is no legal limitation on how and when the IMB can be used, your "only in the event" is not worth the paper it isn't written on..




    Biden and the Democrats are canvassing the ones who signed a WA and then broke the agreement with a bill that overrules the WA.
    EU can not withdraw the IMB, UK can.
    The IMB is, if you like, the UK's 'Backstop' should the EU deem it necessary to use NI for political and fiscal mileage against the UK. The bill itself doesn't break the WA agreement, implementation rather than purely having it in the reserve toolbox, would contravene international law (which the UK would be prepared to due to maintain the integrity of the nations of the UK).

    The EU is still trying to force the UK to be bound to EU standards virtually across the board, not only for trade between the UK and EU, but for the UK and the rest of the World.

    An excerpt from an article in The Times this morning:

    A UK government source said one of the most difficult issues was state aid. We have a different view from the EU on what is appropriate on level playing field issues, the source said. We have been clear that we can look at common principles for our different subsidy systems and perhaps even at the ability to act if a major subsidy genuinely distorts trade.

    What we cant agree to are arrangements which would require us to operate systems of laws equivalent to the EUs and make us pay a penalty if we moved away from them.

    We need policy space to decide what is in the UKs interest in the future. That is the very essence of what Brexit is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    which would require us to operate systems of laws equivalent to the EUs and make us pay a penalty if we moved away from them.
    One need to just look across the Atlantic to identify such "penalties" for "moving away" the newly adopted RULES established by a government and the world is bound by them or penalties/sanctions

    Brexit - It's Still On!-original-jpg

    are applied, unilaterally, by the said government.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    Actually I can, in respect of the "The Internal Market Bill aims to ensure Northern Ireland remains in a customs union with the rest of the UK, potentially meaning a hard border with the Republic of Ireland." The IMB will facilitate trade between NI and the rest of the UK, tarrif free, only in the event that the EU doesn't agree a deal with the UK. Again for clarity, a hard border North and South will only be imposed by the EU. Biden and the Democrats would be better canvassing Brussels rather than London.

    You are quite simply talking out of your arse.

    The WA was not contingent upon a future deal, you idiot.

    If the Brexit rabble proceed with this dismantling of the WA then the UK will be sanctioned by the EU, and, it seems, the US.

    If the UK dos not operate a border in the Irish Sea then it will be in breach of the WA and the consequence will be a de facto border between NI and Ireland which negates the GFA, a prospect to which the Brxit ERG scum and BoJo seemed indifferent.

    The British government agreed that NI would remain in the EU customs union. It is now breaking that agreement scarcely a year later, a fact admitted by its own cabinet members.

    You Brexiteers are really quite stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    The IMB is, if you like, the UK's 'Backstop' should the EU deem it necessary to use NI for political and fiscal mileage against the UK. The bill itself doesn't break the WA agreement, implementation rather than purely having it in the reserve toolbox, would contravene international law (which the UK would be prepared to due to maintain the integrity of the nations of the UK).

    The EU is still trying to force the UK to be bound to EU standards virtually across the board, not only for trade between the UK and EU, but for the UK and the rest of the World.

    An excerpt from an article in The Times this morning:

    A UK government source said one of the most difficult issues was state aid. “We have a different view from the EU on what is appropriate on level playing field issues,” the source said. “We have been clear that we can look at common principles for our different subsidy systems and perhaps even at the ability to act if a major subsidy genuinely distorts trade.

    “What we can’t agree to are arrangements which would require us to operate systems of laws equivalent to the EU’s and make us pay a penalty if we moved away from them.

    “We need policy space to decide what is in the UK’s interest in the future. That is the very essence of what Brexit is about.”
    For fuck's sake, if the UK wants the benefits of trade then it has to agree to abide by the majority view of the association offering that fucking trade. If the UK does not want to play ball then it should just fuck off and trade under the WTO and stop with its fucking whining.

    Either way, NI remains in th EU trade bloc or the UK is fucked by the septics.

    The lumpen morons decided to quit the EU but after four years it is only now they are just beginning to comprehend the consequences.

    Trade subsidy by governments destroys trade and is a form of protectionism inhibiting competition.

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    Lee Cain, director of communications for Boris, and a Vote leave campaigner friend of Cummings has resigned. Sounds like there's discontent in the Brexit camp with the end getting closer and alternate plans having to be thrown out.

    I can see the impossible extension getting more likely.

    It's time for some punitive EU measures to hit the UK during a covid winter....That'll scatter the pigeons...

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    Scarcely surprising that a coterie of deluded ideologues, whose only experience of public administration was contriving the car accident that is Brexit, are now proven to be incapable of servicing the machinery of government. Cummings and his weird crew of misfits are history and the jackass clown BoJo will be forced to return to the very civil servants he previously sought to exclude from their ministries. It seems 10 Downing St is now to be led by his PR influencer baby mother and a string of callow backbenchers.

    Truly, a worthy government for the very soon-to-be Brokendownbrexshitbritain.

    I see the is heading back to 38 baht.

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