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    and here we go

    Brexit: Preparations cost government more than PS4bn says watchdog - BBC News

    Government departments spent more than £4bn on preparations for leaving the EU, says the public spending watchdog.

    The National Audit Office said this figure included spending on staff, external advice and advertising.

    A Treasury spokesperson said the government had made "all necessary funds available" to ensure the country was prepared for leaving the EU.

    But the Lib Dems claimed "billions of pounds have been thrown away in a bid to paper over the Tories' Brexit mess".

    The NAO stressed in its report that it was not making a judgement on whether the spending represented value for money.

    It also emphasised that the figures represented a "minimum estimated level of spend" due to "limitations" in the data provided by departments.

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    looks like Boris and his team are already surrendering to EU demands,

    so much for independence and defiance

    EU-UK Brexit talks: Differences clear after first week - BBC News

    More than 100 British negotiators are heading home from Brussels after the first week of talks with the EU over the future relationship with the UK.

    The two sides sound quite positive and appear to agree on some technicalities in areas like transport and energy.

    But there are some big disagreements about some big things.

    The two sides agree that their new free trade agreement should include measures to ensure fair economic competition between them.

    The EU wants this to be done by referring to current EU standards in some policy areas - which are also UK standards - for now. They would be used as a "reference point" to judge whether future standards had changed or not.

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    @ MichelBarnier
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    An agreement with the #UK will be difficult, but possible. A lot more work needs to be done. Looking forward to seeing @DavidGHFrost in London on 18 March.

    �� My closing remarks following the 1st round of negotiations

    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/speech_20_402

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    Well the first round seems to be going OK, for both sides. Like I said- pragmatism is the order of the day. Seeing as UK trading standards are EU standards, and vice versa, I don't think this will prove a hurdle at all (contrary to the rhetoric). We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Well the first round seems to be going OK, for both sides. Like I said- pragmatism is the order of the day. Seeing as UK trading standards are EU standards, and vice versa, I don't think this will prove a hurdle at all (contrary to the rhetoric). We'll see.
    No doubt seeking ass will find some vague prediction, or opinion piece that he can cherry pick suitable supporting quotes from.
    More assumed fantasy, dressed as facts.
    His posture has not changed, despite real evidence to the contrary. lol

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    BoJo the Clown has never pursued anything except in the short term, whether it be friendship, integrity, fidelity or interest but he does want adulation and if this cannot be guaranteed then he moves on to what will satisfy his narcissistic conceit and self love.

    Intractable problems with 27 countries whose borders begin 22 miles distant from the UK will adversely affect millions of British and although he might keep the issues at arm's length through spouting his bullshit jingoistic splendid isolation trope he cannot paper over the chasm that would be the NI/Ireland border problems if the Anglo/EU conflict is not resolved.

    So, BoJo will end up compromising in much the same way he did when he conceded EU trade status for NI.

    Of course, everyone is wise to the fact that BoJo is a liar and not to be trusted but the EU will have already made clear that if the fat clown reneges then it'll b back to square one and in the end even the dimmest Brexit Orc will know BoJo will not have the stomach for it.

    Brexit was always about tax evasion, offshore havens and racism. As long as he can keep EU citizens out and let his chums salt away their profits BoJo actually couldn't care less about anything very much except of course himself.

    It's quite telling how weak and feeble he has been over the virus issue. The threat is not one that lends itself to his usual piffle-waffle jingoistic bombastic style and as we know apart from vacuous rhetoric and cheap sloganising he has little else to offer. That is why he has pretty much handed over everything to the real grown ups to resolve.

    EU negotiations are really just another virus for BoJo and he wants them gone asap - remember his cri de coeur " fuck business"? Well, that's the British PM, an intellectual moth attracted to the light of his own conceit and will see everything else burn before that is extinguished.

    BoJo will concede.

    He's a wanker, and there it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The threat is not one that lends itself to his usual piffle-waffle jingoistic bombastic style and as we know apart from vacuous rhetoric and cheap sloganising he has little else to offer. That is why he has pretty much handed over everything to the real grown ups to resolve.
    Well, he's handed it to the Health Secretary Matt Hancock who handed it to the grown ups in the NHS. Just as well as that prat is one of an entire cabinet that sat on its hands when parliament was prorogued, so clearly he'll do nothing in any other crisis...except more of the same.

    What a shower of shitheads.

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    Their entire style of government is no more than groupwank, every one of the egregious, slithering, sycophantic cabinet members asks BoJo for his permission before they can take a piss.

    In all my adult years I have never seen a British cabinet act in such a supine manner.

    It really is no more than a coon state sucking their leader's cock.

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    ^ ^^ ^^^

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    When will Bo Jo start blaming the EU for the coronavirus? It is obviously a conspiracy to get rid of the old and weak...his main support...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    When will Bo Jo start blaming the EU for the coronavirus? It is obviously a conspiracy to get rid of the old and weak...his main support...
    ???

    What a ridiculous comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Well the first round seems to be going OK, for both sides. Like I said- pragmatism is the order of the day. Seeing as UK trading standards are EU standards, and vice versa, I don't think this will prove a hurdle at all (contrary to the rhetoric). We'll see.
    indeed, the EU doesn't have a problem with the UK, it's the UK that seems to have a problem with the whole process, maybe they are starting to realize the errors of their way, and will nicely surrender to our demands, as they should

    we own the UK, and we will own it for the future to come

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    ???

    What a ridiculous comment.
    Not as ridiculous as Brexit Betty....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Not as ridiculous as Brexit Betty....
    to a % of the remoaners, despite all evidence to the contrary, despite all project fear projections proving false, I suppose it might. Anyways, my parents just sold a property in Spain, so I'm hoping that the pound tanks for them to send the monies over to the UK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    to my parents just sold a property in Spain, so I'm hoping that the pound tanks for them to send the monies over to the UK!
    Is it easier to access your inheritance from the UK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Is it easier to access your inheritance from the UK?
    I don't want their money... (well, maybe a little bit would be nice, but generally I prefer to work for my money, and they'll probably outlive me - good luck to them... )

    I suspect like many of us, our parents had massive wealth increases during their lifetimes due to the housing boom - my dad's first house, in London, was a 3 bedroom semi-detached that cost 12,000 pounds (just had a quick look at similar houses in London N21 and they are 650,000+ pounds... that's a massive increase in my parent's lifetime)- must've been very early 70s. They just sold their holiday home in Spain for close to a million euro... Not big earners, just were lucky on the housing ladder and kept moving to bigger houses, more land, as their finances allowed. I doubt they've ever had a mortgage of more than 100,000 pounds or so - that would get us sweet FA in the UK nowadays...
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    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    ^ Betts consider the baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    ^ Betts consider the baby
    Mendip's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Anyways, my parents just sold a property in Spain
    They're moving back to the UK because you told them utopia awaits them now?

    No, seriously. They're moving back to the UK or another place in Spain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    They're moving back to the UK because you told them utopia awaits them now?

    No, seriously. They're moving back to the UK or another place in Spain?
    UK - they had 20 years in Spain, it was nice, but a bit boring. Now, they are back in the Shires, but I suspect they may not enjoy the winters...

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    Apparently the UK will be leaving EASA at the end of the year and go back to CAA for all aircraft related approvals, pilot licences and etc. That's going to take a bit to get back to times of old. Not sure of all the implications yet...


    ================================================== ==

    BBC Report out now:

    UK will leave EU aviation safety regulator at end of 2020 - BBC News
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Seeing as UK trading standards are EU standards, and vice versa, I don't think this will prove a hurdle at all
    One suspects the "other" trade deal, currently being imposed by an empire across a 3,000m wide ocean, to it's west, has somewhat different "standards".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Not sure of all the implications yet...
    If the CAA is reconstituted as previously no problem. If outsourced to FAA/Boing Boing/foreign politicians (Congress/Senate/Presidential edict ....) RR Engines will be history.

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    I hadn't realised before; the UK will also be leaving Euratom, the European nuclear agency. Not sure of the full implications of this either but wondering how UK will manage future Uranium imports and nuclear waste.

    I was under the impression the UK would negotiate into both of these institutions. Apparently not as that would allow freedom of movement in these industries....aren't they um specialist enough?

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    ^^ Are you sure? I think JAR/EASA rather than FAA.

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