plan B for Brits is always to flee the crime scene :)
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plan B for Brits is always to flee the crime scene :)
Law of averages says eventually some doom monger or remoaner or clueless economist will actually get some prediction right. They ain't doing very well so far though.
They don't currently have a plan A...Quote:
Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
a.k.a. doing a FarageQuote:
Originally Posted by Dragonfly
When people voted they were voting for a clear plan but sadly the politicians elected to enact the clear plan didn't actually agree with what the people they are suppose to serve voted for. The referendum question was perfectly clear and totally unambiguous, politicians from all sides of the political divide made it perfectly clear during the campaign what would happen in the event of vote to leave, it's just that none of them thought it would actually happen and when it did politicians being politicians do and say anything to stay in and gain power. Basically there should be no remoaners in government, but we have a remoaner PM and a cabinet stuffed full of remoaners hence the people will never get what they voted for. Not under this regime anyway but the fight will go on and this is still a much better start (the referendum result) than any of us would have dreamed of even a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
What did Farage actually flee from? He still turns up to the Euro parliament and makes his funny speeches. People (remoaners) seem under some misguided notion that Farage was the prime minister or something, now if you said Cameron fled you would have a valid point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
it was 350 million quid a week extra to the failing NHS :chitown:Quote:
Originally Posted by buriramboy
Good find amongst all that unparagraphed, appallingly written drivel.
Bumbumboy is somewhat typical of the intellectually challenged who fell for the gimcrack claptrap spouted by the tenth rate Brexit demagogues appealing to their innate prejudices and bigotry. The dumbo mofo twats actually believed that leaving the EU was a simple process after which they would all have longer dicks, more money, better tattoos and cheaper holidays.
Those who voted to remain were of course much more intelligent and better educated people who knew full well that continued membership of the EU was the best option and rightly believed that ending it would be impossible without grievous economic loss, the ending of the peace process in Ireland, the curtailment of rights exercised lawfully for decades by 3 million EU nationals in the UK and a further 3 million Brits in Europe, and the prevention of future generations of British nationals from ever enjoying unfettered access to opportunities afforded by 27 countries on their fucking doorstep.
So, here we are, nearly 20 months down the line and everything we remainers have said would happen has happened or almost certainly will happen once we hit 30 March 2019.
But what do the Brexshitters now say? It's all the fault of the traitors in government, the media and evil EU witchdoctors casting spells from fucking Brussels, and without them all would be peachy and nice and those fairy tales spun by the loony Kipper/Right wing nazi Tory weirdo shitkickers would all come true. They're like fucking Hitler ranting and raving at his generals when they tried to tell him, he and Germany were fucked.
There was no plan, there was no strategy, there was nothing but some vague, ill-formed, incoherent, anachronistic and xenophobic desire to leave expressed through the bellyaching of a bunch of sclerotic old right wing Tory tuskers whining and bitching for the past 45 years together with their bastard, chinless-wonder progeny salivating over the prospect of power that otherwise would be denied to them.
And it's a fucking mess, an irretrievable, bone-achingly, stupid mess.
If only the people you refer to had voted 'leave' it would not be happening.
Wonder how those idiots at Nissan Sunderland and elsewhere feel now.
One minute they're part of a revival, the next they've issued themselves their own P45.
Actually, very few if any of the predictions made by you or anyone else have come to pass, it has been threats followed by promises followed by retractions, all based on the biased and flawed assumptions of the pundits and self promoting politicians and industrialists of both sides.Quote:
So, here we are, nearly 20 months down the line and everything we remainers have said would happen has happened or almost certainly will happen once we hit 30 March 2019.
As the endgame approaches, pragmaticism and common sense will prevail and a way through the morass will be navigated.
Ive read the runes and thrown the chicken bones, all will be well.
So take it easy.
And just who among the motley collection of miscreants and nonentities on display will be providing those qualities, one of which I presume is meant to be 'pragmatism'?Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
and only 1 year to go :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
Do you know anyone who voted leave for that reason as I've never even heard it mentioned? But as I'm sure you well know that money won't be available till we actually leave. Plus if you are that concerned about the NHS ask why £13 bill is given away every year in foreign aid including to nuclear armed Pakistan and India.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dandyhole
As always thanks for your valued contribution to the thread you pointless lifeless boring tedious potless TEFLer.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrille
you presume wrong.Quote:
I presume is meant to be 'pragmatism'?
again
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Pragmaticism is a term used by Charles Sanders Peirce for his pragmatic philosophy starting in 1905, in order to distance himself and it from pragmatism, the original name, which had been used in a manner he did not approve of in the "literary journals".
Peirce in 1905 announced his coinage "pragmaticism", saying that it was "ugly enough to be safe from kidnappers" (Collected Papers (CP) 5.414). Today, outside of philosophy, "pragmatism" is often taken to refer to a compromise of aims or principles, even a ruthless search for mercenary advantage.
Peirce gave other or more specific reasons for the distinction in a surviving draft letter that year and in later writings.
Peirce's pragmatism, that is, pragmaticism, differed in Peirce's view from other pragmatisms by its commitments to the spirit of strict logic, the immutability of truth, the reality of infinity, and the difference between (1) actively willing to control thought, to doubt, to weigh reasons, and (2) willing not to exert the will, willing to believe.[2] In his view his pragmatism is, strictly speaking, not itself a whole philosophy, but instead a general method for the clarification of ideas.
see!
Why is one not surprised that Tax favours the anachronistic.
nothing anachronistic about that.Quote:
pragmaticism ..... by its commitments to the spirit of strict logic, the immutability of truth, the reality of infinity, and the difference between (1) actively willing to control thought, to doubt, to weigh reasons, and (2) willing not to exert the will, willing to believe
the first benefits of Brexit :)
https://www.politico.eu/pro/eu-audit...locs-finances/
EU budget should be transparent, auditors say
The EU should make budget preparation more transparent and fully open to democratic oversight, the European Court of Auditors says. The budget should present a clear picture of "costs, benefits and net balances of EU membership," auditors say.
https://www.politico.eu/pro/data-tra...-uk-regulator/
No-deal Brexit endangers data transfers, UK official says
Billions of pounds of digital trade could be threatened if the UK leaves the EU without a data-transfer agreement, says Steve Wood, the UK's deputy information commissioner. British businesses are asking whether they need legal authority for UK-EU data exchanges after Brexit eliminates their automatic right to cross-border transfers, Wood says.
You mean the auditors will finally be able to sign off on the EU finances. :rofl:
You're joking, I hope. The Battle bus with the £350m/week to NHS slogan was one of the main attractions for supporting the leave campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by buriramboy
The morning after Farage interview, where he agreed the figures were a mistake and retracted the promise, was the biggest anti-climax of all.
Many of the elder generation felt that the waiting times for treatment would reduce if this money went to the NHS instead of the EU.
Let's hear it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ktojE6WQA
As for the £13.4bn in foreign aid, well that's more than the net contributions to the EU, so suggesting we pay too much to the EU becomes laughable.
Troy I don't know if you are actually stupid or it's all an act. As you well know there were 2 leave campaigns the official one that got funding led by Johnson, Gove etc. And the unofficial one led by Farage, UKIP etc. Care to hazard a guess which one the bus was attached to?
I never heard anyone mention NHS funding as a reason to vote leave from people at Work, in the pub or on forums. Maybe all your friends who you work and socialise with that was their reason but I find that hard to believe. Anyway wasn't it shown that it's actually £387 million a week and not 350 sent to the EU and whatever government is in power when we finally leave it will be at their discretion how the money is spent. All a non issue but I do understand 18 months on the butt hurt of democracy hating remoaners is stronger than ever.
I am the one being stupid?
The UK paid £8.1bn net contribution in 2016/17, which is ~156m/week.
Now explain how you are going to give £350m/week extra to the NHS without making Mr Micawber miserable.
The point was you were trying to associate the bus with Farage. His campaign the unofficial one had nothing to do with it which i see you conveniently ignored.
Regards the NHS it gets a stupid amount of money thrown at it as it Is and the wastage alone is more than the GDP of a third world country, it needs reforming from top to toe but it won't be done because of vested interests.