Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

A second screen indicating the countdown time until the local, UKGE, polling station close.

Might be an additional, more pertinent, reminder.

One hopes, whatever the UK citizens choose, it is by a large majority.

I suspect we'll be having another referendum, Nige seems to have spaffed Brexit up the wall. Still, at least his hasn't lost to a dolphin...yet.

Can somebody please explain to Shitty that the date the UK leaves the EU is simply the date on which negotiations shall commence to secure Britain's future relationship with the EU member states in regard to trade and compliance with standards. This is a complex process that will involve international multi lateral negotiations with diverse lobby groups, inter-departmental agencies, pan-industrial consultations and public involvement leading to cross-party consensus or parliamentary debate depending on whether ramifications impinge on new legislative requirements outside the scope of any pre-existing enabling legislation.

Early estimates suggest resolution will take a decade or so.

As I have said so many times before, FTAs take a long time to conclude - the Sino/Australian FTA took ten fucking years and that was when the issues were relatively simple: the chinks get to buy Oz and Oz carpetbaggers and their shills get rich.

I suspect in that scenario they wouldn't be brushing everything off the table to start from scratch, but rather preserve the status quo as they install workable interim measures, until the final product is agreed. Fex, in your example of the Sino/Australian FTA, I would guess the parties were still trading during that decade, rather than stockpiling and eventually dumping their rotted produce for lack of a fully qualified FA.

I think even politicians have learned it isn't easy to simply dismantle and replace one long term system with another.

Err, the services sector is not included by the way but if it is the intention that UK employment laws are to be repealed as indicated by the ERG nazis at an early stage and the UK is to construct some quasi tax free zone competing with the EU then I rather think the imposition of tariffs, from 10-30%, will be pretty much immediate and any future dismantling will be subject to negotiation expected to take some years involving concessions from the UK. Given that the UK currently exports 48% of its entire annual manufacturing output to the EU I rather think the impact on UK companies, SMEs and otherwise, will range from the onerous to the fucking calamitous.

ERG fanatics and Brexshit Kippers seem incapable of processing the fact that the UK focused trade represents just 3% of the EU's combined GDP whereas, vice versa, EU trade represents 13% of the UK's GDP.

The loss of those EU markets together with around £30 billions in services sector revenue will not be replaced from trade elsewhere - the US market is simply not aligned with what the British are offering and certainly Asia couldn't give two fucks.

Economically, Brexit is Ebola and socially it is going to impoverish millions more as stagflation takes hold.

The only benefit anyone can see is the increased offshoring of wealth in tax free havens used as safety deposit boxes for Brit carpetbaggers exploiting vulnerable markets in an ethic-free environment.

Quite why anyone who is not an unscrupulous millionaire would want that is mystifying. Perhaps my theory is indeed the right one after all, Brexshitters are simply stupid.

In that case I'm glad we have you, otherwise nobody would understand the finer points of Brexit, politics, economics, and whatever else you're good at.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Can somebody please explain to Shitty that the date the UK leaves the EU is simply the date on which negotiations shall commence to secure Britain's future relationship with the EU member states in regard to trade and compliance with standards. This is a complex process that will involve international multi lateral negotiations with diverse lobby groups, inter-departmental agencies, pan-industrial consultations and public involvement leading to cross-party consensus or parliamentary debate depending on whether ramifications impinge on new legislative requirements outside the scope of any pre-existing enabling legislation.

Early estimates suggest resolution will take a decade or so.

As I have said so many times before, FTAs take a long time to conclude - the Sino/Australian FTA took ten fucking years and that was when the issues were relatively simple: the chinks get to buy Oz and Oz carpetbaggers and their shills get rich.

indeed, Brexit is going to be the next political generation thing, to be debated and negotiated for the next 30 years

Originally Posted by jabir

In that case I'm glad we have you, otherwise nobody would understand the finer points of Brexit, politics, economics, and whatever else you're good at.

I can still write my initials in the snow with my piss.

There ya go, best I can manage is a few blobs.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Asia couldn't give two fucks.

Asia possibly, China and Russia would love to have the Brits in there BRI trade/financial/legal area.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Err, the services sector is not included by the way but if it is the intention that UK employment laws are to be repealed as indicated by the ERG nazis at an early stage and the UK is to construct some quasi tax free zone competing with the EU then I rather think the imposition of tariffs, from 10-30%, will be pretty much immediate and any future dismantling will be subject to negotiation expected to take some years involving concessions from the UK. Given that the UK currently exports 48% of its entire annual manufacturing output to the EU I rather think the impact on UK companies, SMEs and otherwise, will range from the onerous to the fucking calamitous.

ERG fanatics and Brexshit Kippers seem incapable of processing the fact that the UK focused trade represents just 3% of the EU's combined GDP whereas, vice versa, EU trade represents 13% of the UK's GDP.

The loss of those EU markets together with around £30 billions in services sector revenue will not be replaced from trade elsewhere - the US market is simply not aligned with what the British are offering and certainly Asia couldn't give two fucks.

Economically, Brexit is Ebola and socially it is going to impoverish millions more as stagflation takes hold.

The only benefit anyone can see is the increased offshoring of wealth in tax free havens used as safety deposit boxes for Brit carpetbaggers exploiting vulnerable markets in an ethic-free environment.

Quite why anyone who is not an unscrupulous millionaire would want that is mystifying. Perhaps my theory is indeed the right one after all, Brexshitters are simply stupid.

According to you, the UK has no manufacturing base to speak of. If it's as small and insignificant as you say, the deal will be over next year.
You can't have it both ways dipstick.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

I can still write my initials in the snow with my piss.

Respect!

Oh look...Boris has been lying again.

Boris Johnson has been accused of misleading the public about his own Brexit deal, after footage emerged of him telling exporters in Northern Ireland they will not need to fill in extra paperwork.


After a rocky start to the general election campaign in which Jacob Rees-Mogg had to apologise for his comments about victims of the Grenfell Tower fire, and the Welsh secretary, Alun Cairns, resigned, footage emerged of the prime minister regaling businesses with the benefits of his deal.


The video, shot on Thursday night in Northern Ireland, showed him reassuring worried exporters they will not have to fill in customs declarations when they send goods across the Irish Sea. In answer to a question from an exporter about whether his business would have to complete extra forms, Johnson said: “You will absolutely not.”


He recommended that if any business is asked to fill in such paperwork, they should telephone the prime minister “and I will direct them to throw that form in the bin”.


That appeared to flatly contradict the Brexit secretary, who gave testimony to the House of Lords recently that businesses would need to complete “exit summary declarations” when sending shipments from Northern Ireland to the rest of the UK.

At what stage one wonders will the gormless, terminally thick British Brexiteer/Tory Kipper voter finally comprehend BoJo the Clown is a fucking idiot who makes things up quite literally as he goes along.

Stupidest election in 250 years of parliamentary history. Surely, only a retard could possibly vote Tory?

John Crace in the Guardian epitomises that party when he describes Rees Mogg as the idiot's thinking man.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

At what stage one wonders will the gormless, terminally thick British Brexiteer/Tory Kipper voter finally comprehend BoJo the Clown is a fucking idiot who makes things up quite literally as he goes along.

Stupidest election in 250 years of parliamentary history. Surely, only a retard could possibly vote Tory?

John Crace in the Guardian epitomises that party when he describes Rees Mogg as the idiot's thinking man.

Johnson/Corbyn is a bit like Trump/Clinton.

People will vote for the one they dislike the least, or not at all, and the crazies will vote for their man whether he's a blithering tory dunderhead or a treasonous communist rat.

So another hung parliament, probably.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Oh look...Boris has been lying again.

I don't think he knowingly lied, more like he simply doesn't understand the finer details and consequences of his brilliantly plagiarised version of May's surrender treaty.

Some very insightful comment here:

jesus, couldn't make most of it, but it sounded funny

The pathetic chicken.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

At what stage one wonders will the gormless, terminally thick British Brexiteer/Tory Kipper voter finally comprehend BoJo the Clown is a fucking idiot who makes things up quite literally as he goes along.

Stupidest election in 250 years of parliamentary history. Surely, only a retard could possibly vote Tory?

John Crace in the Guardian epitomises that party when he describes Rees Mogg as the idiot's thinking man.

Here, have a mirror and see how ignorant and foolish you are.