Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Bercow is a revoker.

There is no way he should have stopped that meaningful vote - absolutely disgraceful. It's his job to forward the government's business and afford the opposition a voice - he blocked both of those fundamental precepts of his job. Of course, everyone knew he would because he has politicised the Speaker's role to forward his personal business of blocking the referendum result.

indeed, you are right, but at the same time Labour would have been disruptive enough to ask for amendments and derail the whole voting session, so Bercow tried to avoid that shit

at least with the WAB, things are moving, yet too late, and why now when it should have been done in June

awesome !!!

the BBC crashed!!!

I am starting to think Boris is fooking right, and the GE is the only option at this stage

see below, it's going nowhere and the extension is going to bring only more problems

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50142367

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said his party would vote against the timetable, calling it "an abuse of Parliament and a disgraceful attempt to dodge accountability, scrutiny and any kind of proper debate".

Vote on timetable is going to be tight tonight. It could be decided on a margin of as little as 5 votes.

I want it to be passed so that parliament can get on with discussing this deal.

nope, it was rejected

and here we go with another layer

MPs reject Brexit bill timetable
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50146182

MPs have rejected a proposal to examine Boris Johnson's Brexit bill in the Commons in three days.

The Commons supported the Withdrawal Agreement Bill earlier, but have now voted against the short timetable.

Earlier, the PM warned he would seek an election if MPs dismissed the plan and the EU granted an extension to 31 October Brexit deadline.

After the vote, he told the Commons he would "pause" the legislation until he had spoken to EU leaders.

A spokesman from the European Commission said: "[The Commission] takes note of tonight's result and expects the UK government to inform us about the next steps."

Originally Posted by Troy

Vote on timetable is going to be tight tonight. It could be decided on a margin of as little as 5 votes.

I want it to be passed so that parliament can get on with discussing this deal.

322 vs 308

Not sure why Boris paused the bill. He should have continued progress and seen how far they got with it by the end of the week.

If the EU agree to extend the next step will be a GE and Boris will be on the high ground having a deal accepted by EU and parliament.

Farage will be trashed if there is a GE. That's one of the good outcomes.

Originally Posted by Troy

Farage will be trashed if there is a GE.

It's good to know that in these times of upheaval and uncertainty there's still one thing we can rely on.

The problem is that parliament don't want an election and will do everything to stop it.

Boris has done his job well in preparing for a GE, and to win that we would have to work with The Brexit Party to a No p;Deal Brexit - then he'd have a large majority in parliament.

Labour will be crushed. They'll probably get rid of Corbyn at that point, so an election would be the end of Corbyn as leader, he doesn't want an election... The Lib Dems might get more votes than before, but a Revoke at all costs is not gonna win an election.

Starmer is a sneaker & deceitful kunt in the mould of Blair - he will try to organize a referendum with revoke or revoke before an election then use Corbyn to get as many votes as possible, make promises with the Lib Dems then stab them in the back at the first opportunity and become Labour leader with a return to Blair economics and massive corruption.

You truly are quite addled.

This may all work out better when we have an election and then a No Deal Brexit - there really is no way for 1 country to argue against 20+ in a trade deal; Spain wants Gibralter, Holland wants all our fishing waters, Ireland wants Northern Ireland, Germany wants our army under control of their generals... it's endless.

The only way is to fuk off then start from scratch.

and now this, what a frigging roller coaster

looks like we should prepare for a very long extension and possibly an infinite extension

Brexit: PM to push for election if EU offers longer delay
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50148094

The PM will push for a general election if the EU proposes to delay Brexit until January, No 10 has indicated.

Boris Johnson "paused" his Brexit bill on Tuesday after MPs rejected his plan to get it signed off in three days.

Now EU leaders will consider whether to grant a delay to the 31 October Brexit deadline and what length it should be.

A letter Mr Johnson was forced by law to send to the bloc after failing to secure backing for his deal on Saturday calls for a three-month extension.

Justice Secretary Robert Buckland said it was "undeniably frustrating" to have lost the "programme motion" which would have given MPs three days to scrutinise the plans.

"We want to crack on. And if we can't crack on, regrettably it does seem that a general election is the only way to sort this impasse out," he told BBC Breakfast.

Mr Buckland said a no-deal Brexit was "still a real possibility" if the EU chose not to extend the deadline past 31 October.

it's too bad that the EU will not choose to stop the extension,

that's the only thing you fookers deserve, a no deal Brexit

C4 news, 45 minutes live from Parliament, 3 votes, 10 interviews, Johnny Foreigner telling us we don’t know what we are doing, Tory heavy says demokkkracy must be served and down with the traitors, Tory light says Tory Heavy are big bad bullies, Labour two different views, in the one interview, by the same person, SNP say och aye Jock the Tory’s are just pulling the wool over our fishes eyes and pissing in our oil, Lib Dem’s phone a friend to see what party they are with this week, DUP are walking around the halls to badly played flutes shouting FTPm and No Surrender (for less than £1bn) and Jon Snow finishes with and that’s that for another day in the House of Commons with a perplexed cross eyed look that says he, like every other motherfucker, hasn’t got the first fucking clue, Whats Going On! Cue music....

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nice video, made by French people

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

nice video, made by French people

The French don't make anything. They are too busy defrauding the CAP.

Originally Posted by Switch

The French don't make anything. They are too busy defrauding the CAP.

According to OECD statistics PPP productivity rate in France is around $70 per hour whereas the slothful Brit produces at the lesser rate of $60 per hour.
British manufacturing accounts for 10% of GDP, France is double that at around 20%.

France is the largest recipient under the CAP but this reflects the not entirely insignificant fact that France accounts for almost 30% of the entire EU agricultural output.

Once again, the Brexit bigot demonstrates his xenophobic ignorance and prejudice.

Facts are so inconvenient to them.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

According to OECD statistics PPP productivity rate in France is around $70 per hour whereas the slothful Brit produces at the lesser rate of $60 per hour.
British manufacturing accounts for 10% of GDP, France is double that at around 20%.

France is the largest recipient under the CAP but this reflects the not entirely insignificant fact that France accounts for almost 30% of the entire EU agricultural output.

Once again, the Brexit bigot demonstrates his xenophobic ignorance and prejudice.

Facts are so inconvenient to them.

You can pull as many statistics out of your bottom as you like. It proves that the French are good at massaging numbers. The CAP payments go to slush fund agri-conglomerates, not straw chewing onion sellers on bicycles. The country leads the EU in fraud and bribery. It's one of the main reasons UK residents want to leave a broken communist system. They can't even meet current EU budget rules, so they bend them for convenience.

The French people in general are a charming bunch. If they don't like a law, they ignore it. But it's a horrid place for bureaucracy, run by civil servants all the way down to village level.
That is not bigotry or xenophobia. It's reality that you wouldn't recognise from your ivory tower 'condo' in the best place to live in the world.
You're the one always sniping at the Thai peasants, and have the nerve to call me a bigot? Priceless.

Bercow really should be in the tower alongside Blair...

I'll add, I reckon Johnson's deal is fine, it works for a Brexit UK.

It's interesting to note that May's awful deal was quickly ratified by the EU because they got everything they wanted. But, the EU is now buckling, has given a real Brexit chance to Johnson, but they won't ratify it as long as there's a chance that the remoaners can change it more in the EU's favour - which is exactly what the HoP is trying to do now; water down Johnson's deal by adding amendments...

If Johnson's deal goes through and there's an election which brings a majority Brexit parliament (which it likely would) then Brexit is on a good course.

Of course, Bercow, Starmer, the SNP, LibDems and other extreme remoaners have to do anything they can to stop Johnson's deal going through as it is. If Bercow was not a remainer, and the the indicative vote had gone through earlier this week (which parliament had the nimbers for...) then it'd would have been ratified by the EU, an election called and a Brexit government bought back; Brexit done over the next couple of years.

The remoaners have to add ridiculous amendments such as staying in the customs union to ruin Johnson's deal. &, they will waste endless time trying to do so, to help the EU not to ratify a deal which is much better for Britain than May's deal. Johnson basically got that better deal by selling out/giving away Northern Ireland. It's funny how IRA supporters such as Corbyn and McDonnell are arguing against Johnson's deal which they know fully supports their ideology of a united Ireland...