Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

well you will be fucked, that's for sure, but at least you will be leaving in some way, even if in name only

as long as you don't get to vote on anything EU related, it's a win for the EU27

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I'm worried that the BBC remoaners have been positive - must be a terrible deal...

It will be a bad deal, whichever side of the fence you're on. Compromises are always bad deals. This one is just so that the brexit camp don't lose face completely. It has been the biggest waste of money for a worse position ever negotiated.

There is some truth in that. We should just leave then negotiate deals later. There is no way you can negotiate from one side with 20+ others...

Verified a lot of this viral post. Deleted everything I couldn’t confirm. Sources at bottom:

“”Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.

Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU loan.

Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU support, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds.

Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU support

British Army’s new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU support, rather than Britain.

Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU support.

Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.

Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.

ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs

Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using EU finance for the purchase.

JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU ‘regeneration’ grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.

UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.

Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.

Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.

The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.

Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it’s Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.

The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc.

Then there is the betrayal of Britain’s fishing to the European Union and now Spanish fishing fleets are over fishing our fishing grounds.

Then we had black Wednesday…….Black Wednesday occurred in the United Kingdom on 16 September 1992, when John Major’s Conservative government was forced to withdraw the pound sterling from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM) after it was unable to keep the pound above its agreed lower limit in the ERM. In 1997, the UK Treasury estimated the cost of Black Wednesday at £3.4 billion.

How about the butter mountain……..people should research that.

Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn’t paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK.
Only 23% of the nation voted to remain in the EU”
Writers’ note: “The facts are bad enough. What’s freaking me out is just how many pro EU blogs are “debunking” it – they come up every time I’m researching.

It’s weird.”

sources: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...-milk-12457521

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/1002...Transit_plant/

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...akian-13124138

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...losed-12298655

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...hicles-7928358
https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/defence_en

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/n...-betrayal.html

https://www.ft.com/content/74ab02a6-...9-00144feab49a

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/loc...ss-300-2793347

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/busine...hoover-8524442

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rm-Arriva.html

https://www.lovemoney.com/guides/223...ergy-companies

^ https://nyebevannews.co.uk/i-fact-ch...o-a-brexiteer/

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Verified a lot of this viral post. Deleted everything I couldn’t confirm. Sources at bottom:

People will read this as meaning YOU have verified it and put sources at the bottom.

Well, people who may not know you're a shameless plagiarist, anyway.

Can you really not see the problem?

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Only 23% of the nation voted to remain in the EU”

This means only slightly more than 23% voted to leave.

Reason enough to leave?

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc.

How is this the EU's fault?

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.

Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company

or this?

Or any other of these things about ownership? A decision was made to sell them. Blame the people who made the decision if you don't think it was the right decision.

How about Man City being owned by Arabs? Is the EU to blame for that too? Or is it the fault of the GCC?

Man City have brought money in and the EU keeps taking out.

Jeez your inability to see the bigger picture is discombobulating.

apparently a deal is imminent, Barnier to speak in news conference

^^ An equally long list could be made of companies that have set up in the UK with the help of the EU.

The Japanese in the North East for example.

A more perceptive reader can immediately see the lack of balance in your copy pasted ‘argument’.

A lack of balance!!!
Give me an argument for remaining!

That isn't the way it works with change.

You don't understand how it works anyway.

I've just countered 'your' post, but you haven't really read 'your' post anyway.

No argument then, no answers.
Typical Remoaner bollocks

Seems that the EU is now satisfied with the concessions offered by the ERG/DUP scum but the latter are having second thoughts. I suspect Cummings thinks that despite Mogg's bollocks the numbers don't add up and he wouldn't want to be batting on a sticky wicket and the game not worth the candle - being shown up as a bullshit wanker and capitulating before the EU is one thing but to do it and get blown out by your own Tories is another.

Oops! The DUP are now claiming a breakthrough in the negotiations to be bollocks and BoJo is now asking for an extension. One wonders if he will then eat shit and immolate himself in a ditch.

When you choose a clown as PM I suppose you have to expect a shitshow.

Deal or no deal???
No deal or deal????

Oh ffs

So pretty much back to where we were 2 years ago.

Originally Posted by Norton

So pretty much back to where we were 2 years ago.

It's like the "Magic Roundabout" that won't stop and no one can get off...

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

One wonders if he will then eat shit and immolate himself in a ditch.

I wonder how long Dominic Cummings will last as Bojo's brexit adviser..

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

No argument then, no answers.
Typical Remoaner bollocks

That's because it's just a waste of time trying to explain to those who won't understand.

Brexshitters underestimated the NI factor right from the beginning, a fact that is hardly surprising since the whole movement springs from the diseased mind of xenophobic geriatric Little Englander class of wart-ridden, fat-arsed Blimps wrapped up in the delusion white Britannia rules the fucking waves.

Another GE will see the DUP fucked though when even the Protestant farming community turn against them - they will be crucified if the border returns with a hard Brexit.

Originally Posted by lom

That's because it's just a waste of time trying to explain to those who won't understand.

Particularly when they aren't even capable of making any input that they've come up with themselves. Anyway, I clearly did counter his copy paste.

Obviously everyone else deemed it not worth the effort, which was proven to be the correct decision.

Incidentally, I note that current data now shows the true rate of unemployment in Britain is not the massaged and ludicrous figure of 3.5% as stupidly vaunted by the Tory filth but is nigh on 14%, a figure you will see is the one I gave many months ago when countering the blatherings of our resident bathchair warrior Blimp, Tax.

As ever, one is proved right.

Brexit is Ebola and there it is.

Originally Posted by Norton

So pretty much back to where we were 2 years ago.

Not quite.

looks like the imminent deal didn't happen after all,

what did I tell about last minute surprises by the treacherous Brits