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    basically, without the EU voting for hard Brexit, you are not leaving and would still be legally bound to your financial and political obligations with the EU.

    Article 50 does not make hard brexit legal, it's a process where only both parties can agree, even if it's to agree that there is NO DEAL. Read the damn thing you Brexit idiots

    EU treaties are supranational agreements and supercede any local parliamentary act or laws. It doesn't matter what the UK parliament voted, if it's against the EU treaties, it's not binding or legal.

    hard brexit is against EU treaties and therefore illegal at the EU level and UK level.

    it's really that simple, so you are not leaving Oct 31

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    my bet is Boris is trying to demonstrate this to the MPs idiots, and to die hard Brexiters

    eventually, Boris is going to hit a legal wall and he is going to turn back and show it to his supporters

    "we can't leave, let's start over, but for this to happen we need to REVOKE"

    Big round applause by the usual Tories supporters,

    The End

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    My previous post removed because I strongly disagree with butterfly. That's fine, but he's still a cock and he's still wrong. We don't need no stinking EU permission to leave. You are not supranational, and you can't keep making shit up to suit your narrative.

    UK will leave on 31 October, no matter what specious and misleading posts you make. You shouldn't need to be told again, but we all know you will.

    Every time you post such rubbish. I will correct you. Numb nuts.

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    A clean brexit is on and Boris is going in hard cock!

    A few years down the line and Britain will be the envoy of the world.
    The £ will be reign supreme and all the naysayers will eat their hats with colmans mustard.



    He's playing the game correct, suspending parliament that carn't deliver the democratic electorates wishes.

    Go BJ!
    Go BJ'!






    Corbyn and Sturgeon can fvck right off

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    All the depth we've come to expect.

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    From the remoaner who didn't even vote

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    No deal, Brexit? That's all I've heard on NPR. So what does it all mean to you? Vent it here now please.

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    The only sensible thing left is a vote of no-confidence to be requested on the first day back. Boris has just commited suicide with this very irrational move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    The only sensible thing left is a vote of no-confidence to be requested on the first day back. Boris has just commited suicide with this very irrational move.
    About all MPs opposed to no deal have left. Boris has that covered as well. Bet he has enough support to have it fail and even if not he can delay election beyond 31 Oct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    The only sensible thing left is a vote of no-confidence to be requested on the first day back. Boris has just commited suicide with this very irrational move.
    Why?

    What sensible solution do you see from a remoaner perspective. Please detail a single workable solution that involves remain.

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    A lot of the duplicitous scumbags who are now BJ's trusty helpers were horrified by the idea of proroguing parliament just a few weeks ago.

    Matt Hancock ("I will not have it"), Amber Rudd ("absolutely outrageous"), Sajid Javid ("you can't just shut down parliament"), Liz Truss, Michael Gove ("wrong for many reasons"), Nicky Morgan ("clearly a mad suggestion") and Andrea Leadsom amongst them.

    But we know what 'principles' are to most tories.

    Something to be swallowed when the prospect of advancement is dangled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    The only sensible thing left is a vote of no-confidence to be requested on the first day back. Boris has just commited suicide with this very irrational move.
    Hope so, a GE called and Parliament shut till after the GE guaranteeing a clean Brexit.

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    Expect more austerity but a rise in MPs salaries.
    Working class leave areas will naturally be the first under the Borris Bus, it's the Tory way.
    I'd be more worried if I live in Sunderland or similar areas

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    ^ fuk me, not that utter moron again...

    Is that the kind of whinging twat you listen too???

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    That's certainly the level of rebuttal I expect from you.

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    ^ OK genius... Here's a simple question for you and your mighty intellect: Please detail a single workable solution that involves remain.



    Typical remoaner MP here:

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    What on earth are you on about with 'workable solutions that involve remain'?

    It's you half-soaked BREXITers who plan to rip up the fabric of the UK parliamentary system.

    The workable solution to that and to BREXIT is simply "Don't Do It!"

    Genius.


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    So, as I thought, you don't have an answer.

    The British people voted to leave, and we are now here as a result. May has been utterly useless in dealing with the EU (many experienced politicians explained how the proposed, and followed, framework, was unworkable), now it is time to leave. That is the will of the people, it was in 2016 and remains the case now, as all the polls indicate.

    If you think we should revoke and stay in the EU then explain how that is possible from where we are. &, no "Don't Do It!" is no kind of answer because we had the largest vote in Britain's history - just because the minority, like you, on the losing side, don't like the result, that does not solve the position we are in.

    Explain the process of a "revoke and stay" from this current position; explain how the 50+% of voters would just accept Cyrille's Minority Group's wishes... Despite endless propaganda from well-funded minority groups and London media groups, the majority of Britain wishes to Leave.

    Remember this:



    &, don't offer the pretence of a people's vote, that is a pure lie - people like you and the LibDem leader just want revoke at all cost. They don't accept the will of the people, would not accept a 2nd, 3rd or any referendum that doesn't support their personal wishes... &, then you claim that people that implement the wishes of the people, the result of the referendum, are betraying democracy...

    It's a lie and you know it. You don't want another vote. You don't want a better deal. You want revoke at all cost, and you don't give a fuk about the people that took part in democracy, expressed their wishes and won by majority vote.

    How do you people go through life, thinking that you can get your own way just because you shout more often and more abusively than the majority???
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    I've answered your question.

    Go back to the situation before we got a referendum result based on shameless lies.

    Now anyone not blinded by BREXIT dogma can see that was better than the dog's breakfast we are facing now.

    It's the BREXIT side that has had the whole of Europe waiting for detailed answers about what is proposed, and your question was about the future, not the past.

    As everyone has seen you do not have an answer.

    How do you go through life, referring to the tory party as 'we' in one post, then saying that you've never voted tory in the next?

    Whether it's BREXIT or cricket it's difficult to tell when you're trolling and when you're just showing yourself up as a simpleton.

    I know communicating with you is a waste of time, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I've answered your question.
    Where? Please quote the post number.

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    If Brexit flops then Brexiteers need to accept blame, it was their idea and they voted for it and won. Now own it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    If Brexit flops then Brexiteers need to accept blame, it was their idea and they voted for it and won. Now own it.
    Yes, you're right.

    Nobody has a problem with that.

    Leave on the 31st October, give it 36 months then reflect on our position - nobody knows where we will be at that point, but reflection and acceptance of the position would be right whether we're in a better position or a worse one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Expect more austerity but a rise in MPs salaries.
    Working class leave areas will naturally be the first under the Borris Bus, it's the Tory way.
    I'd be more worried if I live in Sunderland or similar areas
    What is this austerity you keep going on about? Boris is likely to pledge even more spending in the Queens speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    If Brexit flops then Brexiteers need to accept blame, it was their idea and they voted for it and won. Now own it.
    Quite happily if we get a clean Brexit and not a version of Doris deal which is Brexit in name only.

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