Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by lom

The Brextrimist are 25%..

Fair nuff. A poll which indicates folks have changed their thoughts and want a redo but fact remains vote had leave majority. Ok redo. Then what? Another redo if vote is the wrong answer. This could go on forever.

Originally Posted by Norton

Fair nuff. A poll which indicates folks have changed their thoughts and want a redo but fact remains vote had leave majority. Ok redo. Then what? Another redo if vote is the wrong answer. This could go on forever.

That's the point, Norts, the remoaners dress it up in various ways, cut it up, reframe the question, it goes on and on, but Leave always has the majority. The remoaners offer no solution which is gonna win any vote or be accepted by the majority; the remoaners are just causing endless problems when the entire business community and population at large just want to get on with leaving.

dragonfly

at least Boris is forcing the MPs to take actions and build momentum instead of sitting on their fat arse,

Go Boris, Go

exactly.

instead of pissing around for another 3 years, boris, has taken the bull by the horns and wants to get us out of the eu by the end of october, hopefully with a deal, but if not then with no deal.

this is what the referendum result instructed the government to do, and now we have a prime minister who intends to act on it and put an end to the uncertainty that has paralysed the uk for the past 3 years. bring it on. reboot the uk and within a couple of years we will be in a much better position than before.

the country will benefit from a government led by a decisive prime minister like boris.

corbyn and his cronies attempted to close down boris and his plan with their ridiculous government of national unity charade that was no more than an undemocratic power grab, they have now been comprehensively outsmarted and from what i understand, proroguing is completely within the law.

fuck the socialists and their lefty liberal bullshit. it is the divisive liberalism, the identity politics and its the touchy feely snowflake mentality that is responsible for all the ills that infect british society today.

fuck them and fuck them good.

Looks like Her Maj wants rid of the c u n t s as well.

Queen Elizabeth has approved Prime Minister Boris Johnson's plan to suspend British parliament, a statement from the official body of advisers to the Queen, known as the Privy Council, says.

The statement confirmed that parliament would be suspended on a day between September 9 and September 12, until October 14.

"It is this day ordered by Her Majesty in Council that the Parliament be prorogued on a day no earlier than Monday the 9th day of September and no later than Thursday the 12th day of September 2019 to Monday the 14th day of October 2019," the statement said on Wednesday.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Looks like Her Maj wants rid of the c u n t s as well.

Are we in a constitutional crisis yet? I just want to know when I'm supposed to start wringing me hands.

Even more remainers tears today than when they lost the referendum. What a great day with Boris one step ahead of the remoaners in the Brexit battle. Remoaners are pretty fucked now, call and win a no confidence vote and Boris calls a GE sometime in November with Parliament shut till then or still try stop Brexit if the few weeks of Parliament time left.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

It is hilarious how the people who want to ignore the referendum result - and don't make any mistake here, the remoaners are not after anything other than stopping Brexit 100% by any means possible - are the same people crying foul...

so why are you afraid of another REF?

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Brexit is default. If nothing is done to change it GB will be out of the EU in october. If we interpret doing nothing includes not signing the agreement NO DEAL Brexit is indeed the default.

nope, it's not. EU27 would not to approve the hard Brexit. It's a boycott of a deal at best, hence the current legal framework, that is the EU, is the default, hence REMAIN.

Watch it happen

Originally Posted by David48atTD

How about this ...

Corbin and all the Labor voting people leave GB and move to Northern Ireland.

All the Brexiteers in Northern Island return to the 'Mainland' (England). Yep, even the Micks.

Northern Island is then fused back to Ireland and remain in the EU.


BINGO ... England has solved two problems at once.

The Irish backstop is removed and you have pissed off Corbin ... simples

Fuck all those "Scottish" catholics back off to Ireland as well and you've nailed it.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Dont waste your breath as this has been explained to him hundreds of times.

your opinion is not fact, buriram, get that in your blue collar brain

REMAIN is the default, simply because hard Brexit would have to be voted by the EU and the UK to happen

if you do nothing, and the EU does nothing, then it's business as usual, you are still part of the EU

Originally Posted by Norton

Fair nuff. A poll which indicates folks have changed their thoughts and want a redo but fact remains vote had leave majority. Ok redo. Then what? Another redo if vote is the wrong answer. This could go on forever.

REF2 is a better informed decision by the people, nobody said it had to happen every year, only Brexiteers are saying it, because that's their last line of defense and they are scared of the results (and we all know what they are)

Originally Posted by taxexile

dragonfly


exactly.

instead of pissing around for another 3 years, boris, has taken the bull by the horns and wants to get us out of the eu by the end of october, hopefully with a deal, but if not then with no deal.

this is what the referendum result instructed the government to do, and now we have a prime minister who intends to act on it and put an end to the uncertainty that has paralysed the uk for the past 3 years. bring it on. reboot the uk and within a couple of years we will be in a much better position than before.

the country will benefit from a government led by a decisive prime minister like boris.

corbyn and his cronies attempted to close down boris and his plan with their ridiculous government of national unity charade that was no more than an undemocratic power grab, they have now been comprehensively outsmarted and from what i understand, proroguing is completely within the law.

fuck the socialists and their lefty liberal bullshit. it is the divisive liberalism, the identity politics and its the touchy feely snowflake mentality that is responsible for all the ills that infect british society today.

fuck them and fuck them good.

I am all good for it and I have yet to meet a continental European who is not approving Brexit and want you fookers to be out of the EU ASAP

only one problem, you can't

and here we go, can this plan succeed?

I think Boris is bluffing, he won't go full embargo

at least he get things moving,

Parliament suspension: Queen approves PM's plan
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632

Parliament will be suspended just days after MPs return to work in September - and only a few weeks before the Brexit deadline.

Boris Johnson said a Queen's Speech would take place after the suspension, on 14 October, to outline his "very exciting agenda".

But it means the time MPs have to pass laws to stop a no-deal Brexit on 31 October would be cut.

House of Commons Speaker John Bercow said it was a "constitutional outrage".

The Speaker, who does not traditionally comment on political announcements, continued: "However it is dressed up, it is blindingly obvious that the purpose of [suspending Parliament] now would be to stop [MPs] debating Brexit and performing its duty in shaping a course for the country."

the UK MPs have all themselves to blame, they had the whole summer to prepare and debate, fuck, they had 3 years to debate, but instead they let Doris ran the show, and this is what you get, Boris the Ape

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Incorrect, as the latest polls show:



^ this shows that 80% of leave voters would rather leave with no deal than a Corbyn run government (and there simply is no other option than a Tory or Labour run government; Labour without Corbyn leading would get even less votes...). But, 23% of remain voters would rather leave with no deal than have a Corbyn led government. Even the LibDems, the remain party, have 18% of their voters who'd prefer to leave with no deal than the Corbyn option... 17% are unsure.

BTW, this graphic and the information shows exactly the opposite of Lom's ridiculous comments a couple of posts above...

Remain cannot win any kind of second referendum - unless the put May's deal (which everyone hates) against remain. No deal/any Boris deal is 10% above remain and a second referendum in poll after poll...


https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...eal-and-no-cor

Poll after poll has made it clear that if a second vote came and "leave with no deal" was one of the options that it would win...

Several polls of late have been very naughty with their leading questions. The one done by the DT was one that got some attention with their questions. They have been bad from both sides and made most of the figures unusable.

Use with a double pinch of salt...

The UK has officially become a banana-republic. Well done knob heads. Here's laughing at you!

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What is a Queen's speech and why has Boris Johnson called for one amid Brexit crisis?


British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has called for a Queen's Speech, angering opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is calling a Queen's Speech for October 14, a move his opponents say is an attempt to limit opposition to Brexit weeks before the country is due to leave the European Union.


Mr Johnson rejected the criticism as "completely untrue", saying the Queen's Speech would give him the chance to set out his domestic program while allowing ample time for discussion of Brexit in Parliament.


What is a Queen's Speech?


Queen Elizabeth II will read a speech written by the Government.


It is used by the Government to lay out plans for the coming year. It typically lists the main priorities and legislation the Government aims to pass.
Queen Elizabeth reads the speech, written by the Government. It is the highlight of a day of elaborate ceremony, known as the state opening of Parliament, which marks the beginning of a new parliamentary session.


While the Queen in theory has the power to block laws or pick a new Government, the convention is that she should not take political decisions on her own.
Queen Elizabeth is known for being cautious about intervening in any political matters.



What does proroguing Parliament mean?

Suspending or shutting down the Parliament.
According to a statement from the Privy Council, the UK Parliament is to be prorogued from no later than September 12 until October 14 — a little over four weeks.
The Guardian said it was the longest suspension of the British legislature since 1945.

At last!
A British Prime Minister with balls

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Is Boris doing anything unusual?



On the surface, no.Typically, a Queen's Speech is held every year. Mr Johnson is a new prime minister, who took over from Theresa May in July, and so would be expected to have his own legislative priorities.

Because of the volume of legislation that was anticipated ahead of Brexit, the current parliamentary session has lasted more than two years.

The last Queen's Speech was in 2017. The Government says a new program is overdue.

Mr Johnson's decision was slammed by some as the ploy of a dictator but Brexit supporters cheered it as a decisive move to finally bring the country out of the EU three years after the British people voted to leave.

Parliament is normally suspended for a few days ahead of a Queen's Speech. In recent years this suspension has lasted for between five and 20 days.


Why are people so angry about it?

Because of the timing.
Britain is weeks away from making its most important strategic decision in decades over how, and even whether, it leaves the EU.

The decision to hold the Queen's Speech on October 14 shaves several days off an already small number of parliamentary sittings before October 31 — the Brexit deadline.

The suspension would add to an already planned suspension — means that when MPs come back to work, they would have only a few days before they break up again, leaving them very little time to debate and pass legislation to keep Britain from leaving the EU without a deal on October 31.

Mr Johnson says he wants to leave the EU with an exit deal to smooth the transition, but if he can't get one, he'll leave anyway.

A narrow majority of lawmakers have shown they do not want a no-deal exit and are hoping to use parliamentary procedures to stop Mr Johnson and force him to request extra time from the EU.



Can Boris be stopped?



A petition opposing Mr Johnson's decision to suspend parliament gained more than 450,000 signatures in a matter of hours.
That easily exceeds the threshold of 100,000 that triggers a largely symbolic parliamentary debate.
Former British prime minister Sir John Major has also previously said he'd be willing to seek a judicial review in the event Mr Johnson suspended Parliament and plunged the Queen into the centre of a constitutional controversy.


It's unclear if British MPs can halt the prorogation, but they will try.
The BBC reports that some have asked Scotland's top civil court to block the suspension — they began legal action last month but have now filed a motion asking for Mr Johnson's bid to be stopped.


They could also call for a no-confidence vote in the Government, which if passed would normally cause it to collapse.
But Mr Johnson is likely to simply ignore that call, says Scott Lucas, professor of international politics at the University of Birmingham.


The MPs are likely to try to keep Parliament open by passing emergency legislation when they reconvene on September 3. And there will be battles in court starting immediately, he said. But they may not have enough time.


"This is the biggest constitutional crisis since the 1930s," when King Edward VIII abdicated, Professor Lucas said.

The EU cannot stop a no-deal Brexit either —Britain will leave the EU on October 31 unless one of three things happen:

1. the country's divorce deal with the EU is ratified by Parliament;
2. it asks for an extension to the date and the EU agrees;
3. or Britain withdraws its decision to leave the EU.

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What happens next?


Queen Elizabeth II has approved Mr Johnson's request to suspend Parliament amid a growing crisis over Brexit. Prime Minister Boris Johnson spoke to the queen on Wednesday to request an end to the current Parliament session in September.


Parliament returns from its summer break on September 3 and sits for at least a week.
On October 14 the Queen will formally re-open parliament and deliver the speech.


This will be followed by a debate lasting several days on the contents of the speech and culminating in votes on October 21 and October 22.
Winning these votes will be a crucial test of Mr Johnson's ability to govern.


However, if he loses and his Government is subsequently toppled by a vote of no confidence, he would have scope to delay his resignation and a new election until after October 31.


Between the speech being delivered and the votes upon it, Mr Johnson will travel to Brussels in search of a last-minute, renegotiated exit deal.
The summit takes place on October 17–18.



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three words: about fooking time

Boris just gave a kick in hornet's nest, this is going to be fun, watch the UK collapse on live TV

Originally Posted by Troy

The UK has officially become a banana-republic. Well done knob heads. Here's laughing at you!

the UK was on her way down since Cameron days on 2010, he is the one responsible for that mess

Boris is going to end it,

Vive le Boris