Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

^Collateral damages...
(However worth of it, similarly like the Albright declared about the dead kids in Iraq during blockade of medicine supplies - that had taught the dictator...)

Originally Posted by buriramboy

If no deal doesn't happen on Oct 31 it will be for one of 2 reasons either the remoaners have managed to successfully block it or the EU have capitulated and offered terms on a deal the UK can accept.

I think the former is more likely, don't underestimate the remainers resolve, BoJo is only PM, not god, and your system is not as permissive as the US or the French one for the head of state

Macron can get away with a lot of things that BoJo could only dream of,

also the Queen could intervene to preserve her Kingdom unity, which Brexit could break up completely

Brexit is serious business, the Brits still think they can win WW2 by themselves, even though Churchil was about to surrender

you didn't win WW2, and you are not going to win that battle either

blame the fookers in 1975 who made you join the mad house

Brexit wont break up the UK as Wales have no desire to leave and Scotland is a basket case financially under the SNP and wouldn't fit the criteria for EU membership as an independent country.

I'm well aware the remoaners will do all they can to stop Brexit hence I posted it as one of the 2 reasons that could prevent us leaving with no deal on 31 Oct. Parliament is back next week and there is a court case also next week instigated by remoaners to try and stop Boris, also Corbyn has met with all other party leaders today to discuss their strategy to stop Boris. Will they succeed, who knows but not long to find out.

UK PMs don't have that much power, the UK system is parliamentary, like Italy, there is little a PM can do without parliament approval

Boris is suffering from the same problem as Doris, hence he is not going to deliver anything he promised

hence why REMAIN is the default, since NO DEAL would be illegal, and Doris DEAL is not approved

No deal isnt illegal, how many times does this need explaining to you, MPs voted for the brexit bill and to invoke A50 which now says we leave on Oct 31 deal or no deal, that is the law as it currently stands.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

No deal isnt illegal, how many times does this need explaining to you, MPs voted for the brexit bill and to invoke A50 which now says we leave on Oct 31 deal or no deal, that is the law as it currently stands.

and how many times have I explained to you that is not true and it's only your interpretation, nothing factual or real legally or otherwise

you are a chav and a blue collar, your lots never learn

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Think some people on here actually need to read the relevant part of A50 so they actually know what they are talking about. As in all costs, liabilities, obligations or whatever you want to call them end the day we leave as in legally we owe the EU fuk all on leaving.

I think our former glorious leader announced early on that UK would cough up regardless, as part of her brilliant strategy of entering negotiations by giving away everything in the hope getting a bit back.

Just as well, as the EU keep insisting, nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.

https://www.facebook.com/carlosmanwe...1356266235984/

^ quite entertaining

Taking Back Control...

Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s first minister, has compared the actions of Downing Street today to those of a dictatorship.

“It’s absolutely outrageous. Shutting down parliament in order to force through a no-deal Brexit which will do untold and lasting damage to the country against the wishes of MPs is not democracy. It’s a dictatorship and if MPs don’t come together next week to stop Boris Johnson in his tracks then I think today will go down in history as the day UK democracy died,” she told the BBC.


Speaking in Edinburgh, the SNP leader said she had listened to Boris Johnson in the morning and rarely had she heard a more flimsy “cover story”.


“Everybody knows what this is about. It’s about restricting the power parliament has to stop a no-deal Brexit.”


Noting that Johnson was unelected and had come to power after being selected by Tory MPs, Sturgeon said enacting new laws or anything that could stop Johnson had to be a priority.


There was now a narrow window of opportunity to act on a plan that opposition parties had discussed yesterday, she said, to try to take control of business in the House of Commons and pass primary legislation.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eculation-live

Let's get sovereignty back by shutting down parliament.
Nice one, you can keep your cuntree, I'll hang in Mongolia for awhile longer.

Originally Posted by Norton

Seems BJ has thown a spanner in the remainers gears. Got all of them with hair on fire. Unconstitutional accusations, he be a dictator stuff, undemocratic and on, and on.

3 years for parliament to sort it and they have done fuck all. Time someone kicked them in the butt to get on with it. BJ is in fact doing something very democratic. Supporting the will of the people who btw voted and won the referendum to leave. If any are acting undemocratically and dictatorial, it is those members of parliament who have from day attempted to tharwt the will of the people.

This is essentially the truth right there.

What we have currently is government of the people for greedy self-serving cuntos by greedy self-serving cuntos.

Regardless of your view on the merits of Brexit, it was voted for and should already have been implemented.

the REF was not binding, and yet you went for it, on a narrow margin

and not giving people another REF to make sure they made the right decision is democratic? hello pink unicorn?

anyway, NO DEAL is not the default and would be undemocratic if it was forced in some ways, without the UK parliament, basically creating the conditions for a self embargo

at least Boris is forcing the MPs to take actions and build momentum instead of sitting on their fat arse,

Go Boris, Go

Why? The UK is a not a plebiscite, it is parliament's job to act for the best of the country, not what the "people" want. Campaigning for parliamentary reform before Brexit would have made much more sense.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

anyway, NO DEAL is not the default

Brexit is default. If nothing is done to change it GB will be out of the EU in october. If we interpret doing nothing includes not signing the agreement NO DEAL Brexit is indeed the default.

Originally Posted by Norton

Supporting the will of the people who btw voted and won the referendum to leave.

There is a majority, if small, for leaving EU but there is not a majority for crashing out of EU. Not among the voters, not among the PM's.
You can start with the 48% who voted remain and then add on the part of Brexiters that expected Britain to do an orderly exit.

Sure there is a poll somewhere but uncertainty is the bane of any business. Stay or leave business will cope and move on. This endless uncertainty is paralyzing to business growth.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Brexit is default. If nothing is done to change it GB will be out of the EU in october. If we interpret doing nothing includes not signing the agreement NO DEAL Brexit is indeed the default.

Dont waste your breath as this has been explained to him hundreds of times.

Originally Posted by lom

You can start with the 48% who voted remain and then add on the part of Brexiters that expected Britain to do an orderly exit.

Admit I really don't know what folks expected but what was put to the voters made no mention of "an orderly exit".

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https://whatukthinks.org/eu/question...t%2Bany%2Bdeal

The Brextrimist are 25%..