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Ken Clarke has a damn sight more respect for his constituents than BoJo does.
Amusing that you should single out Clarke when there are so many clearer examples of the contemptuous.
Perhaps you don’t actually understand ‘who put him’ in the HoC?
Clue: It was nobody in Sunderland.
Clarke's valedictory interview last week, in the Times I think it was, resolved to a sorrow, not for times past, but for a House that has been demeaned by an intake of MPs who are, putting it politely, a bunch of self-serving mediocre cvunts with no notion of public service or sense of the common good, but his real regret was for the fact that Brexit has paralysed parliament which reflects the stasis in the country divided into three groups, the brain-dead mofo Brexit dingleberries, the visionary and intelligent Remainers who stubbornly cling to their lifebelts of sanity in the turbulent waters of Brexit idiocy, and the rest who are weary of it all and simply want to think of something else in much the same way a monkey under stress hangs from a tree holding its dick having a consolatory wank.
Sad to see such a sensible man lose the will to tolerate any longer the buffoonery of his party leading the country to ruin under the banner of Brexit imbecility.
Still, life goes on but what I am increasingly amused by is the spurious proposition that hard Brexit under the clown BoJo would be better than any Brexit under Corbyn, as if dying from fucking Ebola is somehow a better option than croaking it from Green Monkey disease.
Getting out of the EU is an imperative. The how, not so much. At least Johnson is trying to worry the EU more than May did.
In the end, he will get some kind of managed Brexit, just by threatening a hard one.
When are you retarded imbeciles going to get it into your thick skulls, the EU could not give a fuck how you fucking leave but if you want to be treated as a third country with retained benefits then you will have to do as you are fucking told. If you don't then fuck off and get on with your lives but you will get fuck all but grief from NI and Scotland.
The EU negotiating team has wound up, Barnier is moving on and Weyand has been given the trade supremo job. The Withdrawal Agreement is the only deal on the table. You sign and get a few cherries, but if you don't then fuck off.
The EU does not give a rat's ass for Britain, it's fucking insignificant, it's worth 3% of EU's combined GDP.
27 countries and 450 million citizens are not concerned about a bunch of ersatz, pseudo, second rate, fat-arsed would-be Americans living on a grey island adrift off the NW coast of Europe.
Geddit now, dumbo?
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Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
One could use more polite wording. But basically you are spot on. The best deal the UK can get is on the table. Take it or leave it. But leave - or not. But get on with it.
The deal on the table is best for the EU not the UK, Doris deal is not in the UK interest hence hasn't been able to pass through parliament and is detested by leavers and remainers alike. That deal is dead, will not be brought back to Parliament so no idea why still under discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takeovers
the deal is not perfect for the UK, but again it was going to be a EU deal since it's a deal about EU privileges, so the EU obligations were always going to be thereQuote:
Originally Posted by buriramboy
if the UK wants to be completely free, they have to go hard Brexit, but that seems impossible now
so at the end, it was always going to be a bad deal, now the question is how deep you want it and how much can you swallow :)
It is the best deal the UK will get from the EU. Take it or leave it. It is deeply delusional to believe the UK can get a better deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by buriramboy
They can play with some wording at the fringes but not change the substance.
You gormless idiot bumbumboy, the deal was voted down by a majority of 149 comprising Labour, SNP and the LiBdems who wanted to precipitate a fall in the government, and by the Tory Brexit loons.
The WA in practical terms was merely a transitional device to stabilise an exit while trade protocols are negotiated, a process that would take around a decade to complete given the extensive integration of our socio-economic societies that has been established over the past 45 years.
Frankly, excluding Brexit Tory jackasses pissing on it for doctrinal reasons, no one really minded the agreement which even the EU said would be interpreted flexibly to facilitate an expedited resolution to the negotiations.
You folk are really no more than fluff in the navel of the Brexit demagogues milking you for the saps you are.
So what? If the deal is out the choices are hard brexit or remain. Your choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
I was rebutting the contention that the deal represented an existential threat to Brexit and the interests of the UK which Bumbumboy claims was a perception shared by all in the fucking HoC..
That's fucking what.
we all know it's going to be REMAIN at the end, sadly
Not sure about that at all - the rump of fuckwittery in the Tory Loon party have it firmly in mind that a hard Brexit assures them of continued power in government.
As Clarke opined earlier on several occasions, his party has taken leave of its senses and there it is.
When a fucking raving nutter goes berserk and holds a gun to his head threatening suicide if no-one gets him a fucking a bowl of cherries, you let him blow his fucking his head off.
The monkey fucker Brexiteers need to do that before the rest of we normal folk can get our lives back.
Not only is there economic risk but the unity of the Kingdom is at stake, so don't think the Queen is going to let hard Brexit happens if there is a chance her whole United Kingdom explodes
What the fuck has Elton John got to do with it.
cute, but I find it hard to believe that the Queen will stand there and do nothing while the plebes are burning down her kingdom
Butters, she has no political power whatsoever. The thing we had with Charles 1 and Cromwell kind of sorted that out 450 odd years ago. Her job is to wave, smile, meet coons from the commonwealth, and be old. When Charles 2 hits Buck House then he'll be doing the meeting and greeting but as regards power, forget it.
You are simply making yourself look like a fucking septic with all this Queen shit.
she has more power than you think, and she is everywhere without saying a word, and her influence is not absent, not even in the Commons
and yet, defining silence with Brexit
her influence is so present, you are used to it and you don't even feel it. That's real power, right there :)
We will prove Vladimir Putin wrong by leaving the EU by October 31
BORIS JOHNSON
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Vladimir Putin has described liberal values as obsolete. What tripe CREDIT: YURI KADOBNOV/ AFP
It is a matter of economic fact that, when Vladimir Putin says that liberalism is obsolete, he is talking the most tremendous tripe. Liberalism is alive. It is well. It is delivering prosperity on a scale unimaginable to previous generations.
That is because a society that is free and inclusive and open will – on the whole – be the best place to start a business. It will be the safest place to invest. It will be the best place to start a family. It will be the best place to live. And there could be no better example of the triumph of liberal values, of course, than Britain today.
There are all sorts of reasons why London and the South East are the most productive regions of the whole of Europe....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...eu-october-31/
Model exit — Theresa May’s waxwork is voted out
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May’s wax statue shows her in Downing Street
The Maybot is facing her final meltdown. Theresa May’s waxwork at Madame Tussauds in London has been put into storage before she has even left No 10.
The fate of the £150,000 waxwork was sealed after the public were asked to vote whether it should leave or remain. The leave side won by a margin overwhelmingly greater than 52-48.
The museum has made a wax statue of every elected prime minister since 1855. Neville Chamberlain, Sir Alec Douglas-Home and Gordon Brown did not achieve the accolade because they never fought and won a general election.
May’s wax statue, unveiled in autumn 2017, was a gift for satirists. The Labour MP Angela Rayner quipped that the lifeless and rigid model would be more effective than the…
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he is taking the piss, right? England the best place to live? has he ever left his tavern to make such a bold claim? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
Seeking asylum has got himself so wound up over Brexit, he’s headed for stroke, so I think we should just leave him to wallow in his Pattyaya cesspit.
Jumping off a high balcony is much quicker, and if the GBP THB exchange rate dips just a little more, he’ll become anther jumping leg end.
Butterfly is a complete buffoon who thinks he understands the UK government and the monarchy. He doesn’t even realize that Paris is spelt with a silent s.
Neither of them will be living in UK either side of Brexit, so quite why they get so worked up about it is a mystery.
Seekingass can’t sell his crappy condo because, location, location, etc.
Butters doesn’t have a job, or he wouldn’t be trolling on here all day. Come on guys, what’s the attraction?
Of course I'm wound up you oaf, my income has reduced by 20%. You of course living like a coon under a fucking banana tree in some godawful rural Asian swamp amid savages and apes have simple needs and no doubt derive a pittance from your ditch digging days sufficient for the lower life form that you truly are but we superior species used to a higher standard of living require rather more. Obviously, with your outstanding warrants and ongoing police investigations you have no inclination to return to Blighty but we decent folk do like to travel and this devaluation is a fucking bore.
I simply cannot understand you Brexit british scum living abroad, are you simply too stupid to work things out? Tax I understand because he shafted the NHS and squirrelled the proceeds away in lock up havens fuelling his cornery deals but most of we decent chaps who lived honest lives are on £ denominated incomes taxed in Blighty.
How many baht to the Euro 3 years ago compared to today? And what % fall is that? You really are a clueless clown putting the current £/baht rate solely down to Brexit.