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    that certainly sounds like you guys are going to hit a brick wall, it's going to be brutal

    like watching an episode of Top Gear where we can see James car breaking down and being left behind by his 2 friends and him acting totally cool with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Those 20,000 jobs aren't going to disappear, the administrators will just sell the profitable parts of the business and the majority will keep their jobs just employed by someone else.
    Carillion private sector employees have been told that as of tomorrow they will no longer be paid. Carillion owes large amounts of money to as many as 30,000 small businesses. None of them will be paid the full amount owed and it may be years before any payments are made. The effect on these businesses will be devastating. The collapse of Carillion will affect every aspect of the public sector including the health services, the emergency services, education, and transport. Pigeons are well and truly coming home to roost now. Staff have already been locked out of some hospitals and firefighters have been drafted in to serve school lunches in some areas. The inevitable result of years of corruption, privatization, reckless greed, austerity, lies, exacerbated by the boundless stupidy of allowing bigots, fools, racists, and opportunists to decide the economic and poltical future of the UK. This is only the beginning.
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    fucking awesome man

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    Government rules out Carillion bailout, no doubt because Carillion staff are mostly navvies rather than chaps we went to school with and are now something in the city. Creditors offered 1%. Now I know that to people who don't know what's happening here this may appear to be something of a storm in a teacup but the reason the Carillion/Tarmac collapse is important is that Carillion/Tarmac is almost entirely responsible for maintaining UK infrastructure. The roadbuilding substance, Tarmac, is named for the company, not the company for the sticky black bitumen based substance.

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    unfuckingbelievable, Maybot is really a clueless evil witch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    unfuckingbelievable, Maybot is really a clueless evil witch
    They'll probably end up selling it to the Germans if the Germans promise to stop making fun of Brit war movies or to the Chinese for a couple of Chairman Mao watches and a kilo of pangolin scales, like they've done with the rest of British industry, and the dimwitted chavs that make up half the British electorate will still swallow it because they've been trained over 40 years to enjoy the taste of shit.

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    Tomorrow 8,500 workers will be fired on the spot with no pay and no compensation. The first of many more. 20% has already been deducted from the pension fund. More to come. I notice that some wankers have said that this has nothing to do with Brexit. After the referendum the Carillion board warned that this is exactly what would happen. Of course Brexit is not the only reason, the Tories selling off the national infrastructure to their friends is the major cause but, hey, that's still better than "Socialism", eh? You thick chav bastards.


    In any country where the people still had some self respect they'd be marching on the Government offices. This being England they'll just blame the Bulgarians
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    Good to see the government allowing market forces to play out and not interfering as they did with the banks by bailing them out. If a company cant be run successfully deserves to go bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Good to see the government allowing market forces to play out and not interfering as they did with the banks by bailing them out. If a company cant be run successfully deserves to go bust.
    like the banks? What if the company has achieved a monopoly through corruption. What have market forces to do with PFI? What if 30,000 small businesses fail when this monopoly fails? What about the pension fund having been ransacked? Are you genuinely this stupid or is it just that you are incapable of understanding what is happening?

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    Why should the taxpayer foot the bill when companies go bust? Should everyone be able to start up a business risk free knowing if they go bust the government/ taxpayer will bail them out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Why should the taxpayer foot the bill when companies go bust? Should everyone be able to start up a business risk free knowing if they go bust the government/ taxpayer will bail them out?
    Who said the taxpayer should foot the bill? The issue is that the taxpayer has been footing the bill all along! Do you even know what Carillion do? They run hospitals, schools, rail, emergency services, roads, prisons. This is not Mario at the Kebab shop going bust. The nations infrastructure was hived to this company under PFI. The company has gone bust which now means that those things they were contracted to run will shortly have neither funds nor staff. Also their tens of thousands of subcontractors will not be paid, that means tens of thousands of businesses will also, through no fault of their own, go bust. Yet again a giant business given monopolies by its government cronies has stolen billions of our money. Of course they shouldn't be bailed out, I'm not saying they should, Im saying this is the inevitable result or years of corruption and economic stupidity crowned by Brexit. This will be an economic disaster but it's only the beginning. Serco next, followed by g4s, capita, and mitie.
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    Stop being such a drama queen, the contracts will get awarded to other firms although with more scrutiny and life will plod on as it always does. Just wish I'd gone with my gut and shorted Carillion when it was circa 45p a few weeks back but bottled it as thought Doris would cave in and bail them out, missed out on an easy circa £10k there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    with more scrutiny

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    They'll probably end up selling it to the Germans if the Germans promise to stop making fun of Brit war movies or to the Chinese for a couple of Chairman Mao watches and a kilo of pangolin scales, like they've done with the rest of British industry, and the dimwitted chavs that make up half the British electorate will still swallow it because they've been trained over 40 years to enjoy the taste of shit.
    looks like France is following that route since Sarkozy and Holland, completely destroyed our industry

    have to wonder why they are doing it, or even knows what they are doing

    Macron is now accelerating that process,

    fuck them all,

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Why should the taxpayer foot the bill when companies go bust? Should everyone be able to start up a business risk free knowing if they go bust the government/ taxpayer will bail them out?
    well, if that business has some kind of utility function, it has more to do with maintaining minimum public services, so it's a fooking tragedy and a big loss for you people

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    We have a bloated public sector in the UK thanks to the Blair/Brown years, also during those years pay and pensions especially pay for lots of lazy feckless jobsworth public servants who couldn't get a job anywhere else was massively increased. Massive state employment is a burden on society that needs culling with as sharp a knife as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    We have a bloated public sector in the UK thanks to the Blair/Brown years, also during those years pay and pensions especially pay for lots of lazy feckless jobsworth public servants who couldn't get a job anywhere else was massively increased. Massive state employment is a burden on society that needs culling with as sharp a knife as possible.
    What utter bollox! We have a massive private sector takeover in public services in the UK because of PFI. PFI was a John Major initiative but happily supported by all parties because it enabled them to pretend the government wasn't paying for public services while at the same time pushing billions in the direction of old friends who would later give them directorships once they resigned from politics. The public sector as such in Britain is tiny and if you think otherwise you are an absolute fool. Clearly you are either posting from 1973 or have absolutely no idea about what's actually going on here.

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    There are just shy of 5.5 million people employed in the public sector, now if you think that's tiny that is of course your prerogative. But to us sensible folk that is bloated and needs a massive cull to lower the burden on the rest of us that have to pay their wages and pensions. Now of course socialists would probably like to see public sector employment double with jobs for life and golden pensions for people spending a working life doing fuk all and a doubling of all benefits for the unemployed. And that's why you and your fellow Corbynistas will bankrupt the country should your messiah ever get anywhere near No.10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    There are just shy of 5.5 million people employed in the public sector
    Yes, IN the public sector but not BY the public sector. They are, or were, employed by Carillion, Serco, G4S, Civica, etc, etc. That's how the public sector now works and has done for 30 years. Private companies are contracted to do public sector works. You genuinely don't have a clue how any of this works, do you? As I said, you're stuck in the 1970s.

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    No Bob it is you who seemingly doesn't have a clue, the 5.5 million figure is the number of public sector employees, well actually just under 5.5 mill but who gives a toss about a few k. People employed by G4S regardless of whether they are working in a prison or guarding the local Tesco are private sector employees and not included in the 5.5 mill. I've tried to make that as easy as I can for you to understand but if you're still struggling you'll have to ask someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    No Bob it is you who seemingly doesn't have a clue, the 5.5 million figure is the number of public sector employees, well actually just under 5.5 mill but who gives a toss about a few k. People employed by G4S regardless of whether they are working in a prison or guarding the local Tesco are private sector employees and not included in the 5.5 mill. I've tried to make that as easy as I can for you to understand but if you're still struggling you'll have to ask someone else.
    I suggest you read any newspaper in the country or watch any news broadcast. The news has probably reached as far as woolyback country by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    In any country where the people still had some self respect they'd be marching on the Government offices.
    But I remember some 1 million in the London streets - who was that they came out to "welcome"? Now no longer so concerned...

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    We have a bloated public sector in the UK thanks to the Blair/Brown years, also during those years pay and pensions especially pay for lots of lazy feckless jobsworth public servants who couldn't get a job anywhere else was massively increased. Massive state employment is a burden on society that needs culling with as sharp a knife as possible.
    I always find it amusing to listen to uneducated ignoramuses spouting their uninformed bilge supporting their ill-conceived prejudices and bigotry.

    If long tailed macaques were articulate and literate they would surely sound and write like Bumbumboy.

    The British public sector is pretty much the slimmest in the developed world per capita and its civil service is certainly the leanest deriving incomes and pensions considerably less than those earned elsewhere. Indeed, the majority of current UK civil servants can only look forward to a half pension at best.

    Actually, the cadre of administrative British civil servants is relatively small numbering around 3000 at most based in Whitehall who are policy makers implementing government strategies and legislation - the 350,000 others are merely foot soldiers who make the machinery of government actually work. No society can function without public workers attending to its maintenance and most civilised developed societies require an increasingly sophisticated panoply of service personnel to provide for the expectations of its people.

    Only a fucking retarded moron from Crewe would actually think countries run by themselves.

    The reason why Brexit won't work you cretin is that there are no fucking civil servants left to make it function and the calibre of policy staffers is falling because the salaries, reward and pensions packages are increasingly shite.

    A fucking MI5 direct entrant Intelligence Officer in Central London has a starting salary of £30,000 per annum, for fuck's sake. A fucking McDonalds shift manager gets more.

    In truth, whereas the population has grown and the statute book increased over the past 10years, the Civil Service has in fact decreased in overall size by 25% since 2005 and is now around 400,000.

    You gormless ignorant twat. Also, the average income in the civil service is £25,000 and their pension is usually around £6,000.
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    Spoken like a true feckless lazy civil servant who wouldn't have been able to hack it in the private sector and spent his working life suckling on the government teat in charge of cemeteries and car parks.

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    British civil servants are nonexistent, yet they are everywhere, replaced by private companies drones, being more incompetent, cheaper, and as unhelpful.

    Yes a society running more efficiently is good, and less public workers doing fuck all is also good, but here we have people doing fuck all hired by a private company, and that private company capturing a big profit running that scam, because at the end it's more expensive to run than ever, and can only have a negative impact on the daily economic life of the average British citizen.

    All brought to you by treacherous Thatcher and friends,

    Your Torries are a really a bunch of thieves and cabals,

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