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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    LOL, it's our money that the EU were so kind to return a small part of to invest in shitholes like Sunderland. Same with farmers subsidies which if you stopped reading left wing rags would know that Dorris has guaranteed to farmers the same amount of loot they are receiving now till 2024.
    Your ignorance is almost as big as that fucking goitre currently masquerading as your brain.

    The UK contribution towards the EU CAP is around £3 billions. The thing is, this is more or less the same the UK paid into the UK agriculture industry in 1971/2 to finance the various intervention boards and subsidy schemes preventing bankruptcies leading to the disastrous cycles of feast or famine. The Ministry of Agriculture received £700 million in 1971/2 which allowing for inflation equates to the current £3 billions or thereabouts.

    When/if a hard Brexit takes place, the industry is going to have to accept that subsidy will continue but this time they will have to export to their 500 million EU customers in the knowledge they could be paying 30% more in added tariffs. Don't quite think the punters are going to swallow that, har har.

    Just as 130,000 British businesses have now understood that they will be paying VAT etc up front on all their EU imports when we leave the single market, the British farmer is going to face the awful fact his only significant viable customer is going to be the British consumer.

    But I daresay those crazy mofos such as Mogg, Gove, Johnson, Fox and Davis will probably believe riches beyond the dreams of Croesus will lie in the sub-continent markets where the British farmer will sell his pork products to the Pakis and the Banglas, and beef to the Hindu wobble heads.

    Har, har.

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    UK officials fear loss of asset-management business
    UK ministers and Bank of England officials are concerned about losing a substantial part of the asset-management business after Brexit as delegation emerges as a major source of contention.

    https://www.ft.com/content/d2cde5e6-...0-857e26d1aca4

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    EBA forms plan for post-Brexit staff retention
    The European Banking Authority is trying to prevent more staff from leaving when it relocates to Paris after Brexit by restructuring into specialized teams and by creating a "reserve list" of external experts to tap.

    https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/eb...rexit-20180104

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    Told you no one wants to work and live in Paris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    EBA forms plan for post-Brexit staff retention
    The European Banking Authority is trying to prevent more staff from leaving when it relocates to Paris after Brexit by restructuring into specialized teams and by creating a "reserve list" of external experts to tap.

    https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/eb...rexit-20180104

    They could move straight into Goldman Sachs' offices? Save time in the long run

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    Farage... I thought that scumbag had run off and hidden back under his rock.

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    Nigel Farage has called for a second EU referendum to shut up all those pesky remoaners and put the debate to rest once and for all for a generation, because if the boot were on the other foot and he was on the losing side, I’m sure he’d have accepted the will of the people and never spoke of Brexit again.

    On the surface this is a seemingly magnanimous offer from the shifty eyed, Pole provoking, toad gurner. But is it really that simple, that black and white, is he really as confident for a second win as he’s making out?

    I find it odd that for months he has been (quite rightly) defending democracy and the will of the people. However much I myself disagree with the final decision, it has been made. After all, this isn’t best of three.

    So why now, so recently after meeting the EU’s top Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, has he decided to give credence to the views of the likes of Tony Blair and Nick Clegg? He doesn’t need to. He won, they lost and should get over it, a rhetoric he’s been repeating for 12 months.

    It begs the question, what has he learned? It’s a surprising change of tune for Farage. Have his eyes been opened, or does he now realise what a massive clusterfuck Brexit is going to be for the UK?

    http://tuckered.co.uk/2018/01/11/farage-meets-barnier-then-calls-for-second-referendum/
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    I think he is worried about his MEP pension pot more than the will of the 'everyday man' that he claims to represent.

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    I think Mr Farage has finally realised that the UK will still be paying a substantial budget to the EU for the financial services sector to keep passporting rights, on top of the lump sum they have just promised.

    He keeps saying: "The EU needs us more than we need them", even though it is pure bullshit, and he knows it is pure bullshit.

    The Maybot is doing the same as she did as Home Secretary, saying one thing to the public and another to the EU.

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    Saw interview this AM. Nigel's reasoning, such as it is, seems to be the concessions made to date are far from what brexiters voted for. A complete break.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I think Mr Farage has finally realised that the UK will still be paying a substantial budget to the EU for the financial services sector to keep passporting rights, on top of the lump sum they have just promised.
    Yep. That's it.

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    Yes let's have a second referendum but if leave wins again which they will do by an even greater margin then we have a new government who support actually leaving. And remoaners will accept the result and stop fighting against the interests of their own country and will work for Britain's future post Brexit as otherwise what is the point.

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    Britain Would Vote 55% To REMAIN If 2nd EU Referendum Was Held, Says New Poll

    Britons have changed their mind on Brexit and now back Remain, a fresh poll on EU membership suggests.


    A flash ComRes/Daily Mirror poll of more than 1,000 people found 55% back staying in Europe and just 45% would vote Leave.


    More than half (51%), however, said they do not back a re-run of the divisive 2016 referendum which saw the country narrowly back breaking away from the bloc.


    The poll comes after former UKIP leader Nigel Farage’s shock admission that he is close to backing a second referendum, saying it would “kill off” the Remain campaign for a generation.


    Speaking on the Channel 5 talk show The Wright Stuff, Farage said: “What is for certain is that the Cleggs, the Blairs, the Adonises will never ever, ever, give up.


    “They will go on whinging and whining and moaning all the way through this process.




    “So maybe, just maybe, I’m reaching the point of thinking that we should have a second referendum on EU membership... and we may just finish the whole thing off.


    “And Blair can disappear off into total obscurity.”


    He even claimed “the percentage that would vote to leave next time would be very much bigger than it was last time round”.


    Pro-EU campaigners have said support is growing for a second referendum, while others, including Tory MP Heidi Allen and Labour MP Ali McGovern, have said Farage wants a second Leave to torpedo any notion of a soft Brexit.


    Leave.EU founder, Arron Banks, supports a re-run. He said that to avoid sleepwalking “into a faux Brexit” people should “go back the polls and let the people shout from the rooftops their support of a true Brexit”.


    But Farage’s UKIP colleagues do not all agree with the Farage floating the idea. Former deputy chairwoman Suzanne Evans described his comments as “epically stupid”.


    Labour MP Chuka Umunna, of the pro-single market Open Britain campaign, however, said: “For perhaps the first time in his life, Nigel Farage is making a valid point.


    “In a democracy like ours, the British people have every right to keep an open mind about Brexit.”


    Downing Street said: “We will not be having a second referendum.”

    Britain Would Vote 55% To REMAIN If 2nd EU Referendum Was Held, Says New Poll

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    Personally, I don't agree with referendums being used at all. The average Joe does not have the information available to make a sound judgment.

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    Britain Would Vote 55% To REMAIN If 2nd EU Referendum Was Held, Says New Poll

    Britons have changed their mind on Brexit and now back Remain, a fresh poll on EU membership suggests.


    A flash ComRes/Daily Mirror poll of more than 1,000 people found 55% back staying in Europe and just 45% would vote Leave.


    More than half (51%), however, said they do not back a re-run of the divisive 2016 referendum which saw the country narrowly back breaking away from the bloc.


    The poll comes after former UKIP leader Nigel Farage’s shock admission that he is close to backing a second referendum, saying it would “kill off” the Remain campaign for a generation.


    Speaking on the Channel 5 talk show The Wright Stuff, Farage said: “What is for certain is that the Cleggs, the Blairs, the Adonises will never ever, ever, give up.


    “They will go on whinging and whining and moaning all the way through this process.




    “So maybe, just maybe, I’m reaching the point of thinking that we should have a second referendum on EU membership... and we may just finish the whole thing off.


    “And Blair can disappear off into total obscurity.”


    He even claimed “the percentage that would vote to leave next time would be very much bigger than it was last time round”.


    Pro-EU campaigners have said support is growing for a second referendum, while others, including Tory MP Heidi Allen and Labour MP Ali McGovern, have said Farage wants a second Leave to torpedo any notion of a soft Brexit.


    Leave.EU founder, Arron Banks, supports a re-run. He said that to avoid sleepwalking “into a faux Brexit” people should “go back the polls and let the people shout from the rooftops their support of a true Brexit”.


    But Farage’s UKIP colleagues do not all agree with the Farage floating the idea. Former deputy chairwoman Suzanne Evans described his comments as “epically stupid”.


    Labour MP Chuka Umunna, of the pro-single market Open Britain campaign, however, said: “For perhaps the first time in his life, Nigel Farage is making a valid point.


    “In a democracy like ours, the British people have every right to keep an open mind about Brexit.”


    Downing Street said: “We will not be having a second referendum.”

    Britain Would Vote 55% To REMAIN If 2nd EU Referendum Was Held, Says New Poll

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    Personally, I don't agree with referendums being used at all. The average Joe does not have the information available to make a sound judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Nigel Farage has called for a second EU referendum to shut up all those pesky remoaners and put the debate to rest once and for all for a generation,
    http://tuckered.co.uk/2018/01/11/farage-meets-barnier-then-calls-for-second-referendum/
    That wasn't how the BBC presented his remarks.
    Last edited by Neverna; 12-01-2018 at 08:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Yes let's have a second referendum but if leave wins again which they will do by an even greater margin then we have a new government who support actually leaving. And remoaners will accept the result and stop fighting against the interests of their own country and will work for Britain's future post Brexit as otherwise what is the point.
    I actually couldn't give a toss about the sovereignty of England; it's stronger economically and socially in the E.U. On a personal level I am a massive supporter of the freedom of movement. The ability to work and live withing the E.U state with little bureaucracy is a huge boon. Brits can work and live in 26 member states- shit, if you can't make a success out of your life with that then I don't think it's immigration that is the issue.

    When I was temping before mass immigration from Poland et al it was always a struggle to find recruits willing to do jobs such as catering assistants, cleaning, basic office work and odd shifts at local factories. Plenty of jobs but few applications from the locals, it wasn't like the pay was terrible either. Pure laziness.

    Now it looks like Trumpy isn't going to be offering us any trade deal anytime soon. Japan thinks it's a bad idea, too. I can't see the economic sense in leaving such a large trading block with no trade deals signed and no viable plan on the table about what to do next. Guess the Maybot can sell more weapons, tho! Allegedly, trade deals with India and Pakistan will only go ahead if we grant more working visas to folks from these countries. Brexit will result in more immigration from countries where values and cultures are very different- now, personally I have no problem with this at all- but your average Brexiteer is going to have a snowflake moment when the reality becomes apparent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Allegedly, trade deals with India and Pakistan will only go ahead if we grant more working visas to folks from these countries. Brexit will result in more immigration from countries where values and cultures are very different
    But that's just not factually true. It's only project fear rhetoric.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    I can't see the economic sense in leaving such a large trading block with no trade deals signed and no viable plan on the table about what to do next.
    We had a referendum. The result was clear. Now the UK has to deal with it and implement it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    But that's just not factually true. It's only project fear rhetoric.


    We had a referendum. The result was clear. Now the UK has to deal with it and implement it.
    Yup, not a vote or legally binding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Yes let's have a second referendum but if leave wins again which they will do by an even greater margin then we have a new government who support actually leaving. And remoaners will accept the result and stop fighting against the interests of their own country and will work for Britain's future post Brexit as otherwise what is the point.
    can we vote too ? because we wouldn't want you fookers have second thoughts for Brexit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    “They will go on whinging and whining and moaning all the way through this process.
    Like Nigel did for the last 10 years when he was BNP and then UKIP ? what a little fraud he is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Downing Street said: “We will not be having a second referendum.”
    oh thank god

    let the stupid Brits pay for their mistakes, shooting at their own foot, for our pure entertaining pleasure

    Go Brexit, go

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    oops, things are starting to look bad

    London's financial job vacancies plummet
    Job openings in London's financial-services sector plunged 52% last month, the sharpest decline in three years, according to a survey by Morgan McKinley. A slowdown in hiring during the holiday season is nothing unusual, Operations Director Hakan Enver says, but "for it to be such a seismic drop is alarming."


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ew-study-shows

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    The bitch is fooked, asking for her next marching orders from the big financial institutions

    May plans Brexit meeting with financial execs
    British Prime Minister Theresa May is meeting with chairmen and CEOs of major financial firms Thursday to discuss a Brexit deal covering financial services. Executives from Aviva, Barclays, HSBC and Prudential are expected to participate, along with Chancellor Philip Hammond.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-b...-idUSKBN1EZ1FS

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    May can squeal, but we are not responding to her silly demands

    UK: Blocking Brexit deal could trigger financial crisis
    The EU could send the world into a financial crisis if it refuses to give the UK a Brexit trade deal that covers financial services, two UK ministers say. Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond and Brexit Secretary David Davis have written in German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung that a broad trade deal covering goods and services would ensure a catastrophe such as the 2008 financial crisis doesn't repeat.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...deal-u-k-warns

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