Tonights votes, from the Guardian app so no link. My money, if any pass, is on Motion C although I would prefer E. None of these are Brexit.
Motion C: customs union
The Tory former chancellor Ken Clarke’s customs union plan requires any Brexit deal to include, as a minimum, a commitment to negotiate a “permanent and comprehensive UK-wide customs union with the EU”. This was defeated by the smallest margin in the first round, falling just six votes short.
On 27 March, MPs voted against this option by 271 t0 265.
Motion D: ‘common market 2.0’
Tabled by the Conservatives Nick Boles, Robert Halfon and Dame Caroline Spelman, Labour’s Stephen Kinnock and Lucy Powell, and the SNP’s Stewart Hosie. The motion proposes UK membership of the European Free Trade Association (Efta) and European Economic Area. It allows continued participation in the single market, and a “comprehensive customs arrangement” with the EU – including a “UK say” on future EU trade deals – would remain in place until the agreement of a wider trade deal that guaranteed frictionless movement of goods and an open border in Ireland.
On 27 March, MPs voted against this option by 283 to 189.
Motion E: confirmatory public vote
Drawn up by the Labour MPs Peter Kyle and Phil Wilson, this motion would require a public vote to confirm any Brexit deal passed by parliament before its ratification. This option, tabled last time by the Labour former foreign secretary Dame Margaret Beckett, polled the highest number of votes.
On 27 March, MPs voted against this option by 295 to 268.
Motion G: parliamentary supremacy
The SNP MP Joanna Cherry joins the Tory former attorney general Dominic Grieve and MPs from other parties with this plan to seek an extension to the Brexit process, and if this is not possible then parliament will choose between either no deal or revoking article 50.
An inquiry would follow to assess the future relationship likely to be acceptable to Brussels and have majority support in the UK.
On 27 March, MPs voted against this option by 293 to 184.
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Doris is a pussy letting the cabinet abstain, should all be whipped to vote against all 4 options and anyone defies the whip resign or be sacked.
Collective responsibility, her deal is government policy and all cabinet members are obliged to support it in public anyway. Even though her deal is shit and not Brexit all these 4 options go against her deal and the cabinet should be whipped to vote against. But we all know the reason she won't as in she would lose a good % of her cabinet and no one left to replace them. GE in months if not weeks.
^ All cabinet ministers have been told to abstain, backbench Tory MPs have afree vote.
Only one way to get this sorted.
Well, as predicted by most intelligent people three years ago the Brexiter idiots have brought the country to a standstill, crippled parliament, and broken Britains representative democracy. In three short years they have managed to do what over a thousand years of warfare could not. And for all the immense damage they have done they insist on calling those who oppose them traitors. It will take decades to undo the harm done by these fools and their cynical and opportunistic masters. Fools worshipping thieves. Future history books will describe brexiters for what they really are, donkeys led by jackals.
Sadly for you Bob, the opposite is true. Self important members, helped by the sycophant Bercow, have just proved that giving people enough rope will make the government look stronger.
Indicative votes are an exercise in futility.
It now seems likely the the intransigence of May, and the spite of the EU, will combine to force the very evolution that everyone is scared of. A hard Brexit.
Members running the show has exposed the weaknesses in democracy.
Rank stupidity is the weakness of democracy, and brexiters have it in spades.
Aw I am detecting a little disappointment in our remainer cohort. Hopefully the wanker Berkcow will get ousted and they legislate against future speakers being able to hold parliament and governments to ransom. Now then, do i hear reinvigorated cries for a peoples vote or second referendum Bob, Cy, Troy..
Sadly for you switch, you use words you don't understand and it makes your posts look stupid.
Parliament can't agree on moving forwards, sideways, or even backwards. MPs appear to be voting with the referendum result very much in their minds rather than for the best for the UK.
Doris really needs to come out for leaving on WTO terms next Friday, she will get all Brexiteers back on side and remoaners hate her anyway so nothing to lose and all to gain. Brexit becomes a success because she chose to leave with no deal and might not even end up the worst PM in history.
that was a nice Michael Jackson move on that table
apes fighting is always funny to watch,
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It works by being a representative democracy, a concept that even after 200 years many people cannot seem to get their heads around. MPs are not there to do what constituents tell them. That has never been the way in the UK system. If there's one thing clear from this mess it is that most Brexiters have no idea at all how British politics and the British Constitution works.
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