Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

The EU doesn't want the UK to leave and it's made no secret of that. It therefore stands to reason that its strategy formation will have included discussions on the best way to get the decision overturned, and that would have produced the idea to play up the need for a hard EU border in Ireland and to tangle the UK up in accepting responsibility for solving it.

The EU's desire was shown as recently yesterday via Tusk's glee at the recent revoke petition and ref2 march. His choice of words where he said their national government wasn't respecting them so MEPs must because they are EU citizens (for two more weeks) was a clear swipe at national sovereignty and the approaching deadline.

that's quite a nice story you have here, and a nice demonstration of your right wing loon bias

it's a conspiracy by the EU

No, nige.

'Vicarious' means experienced only in the imagination, or done for another.

Observing something first hand is not vicarious. Reading about it from someone else's experience or observations is.

Neither did I post that the 'vast majority of Singaporeans have a low standard of living'.

Let's move on. You're clearly determined to see things in my posts that are not there, just as it's clear you struggle a bit with words.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

Are you saying that unless people have concrete plans in place for their future and know exactly what is going to happen they shouldn't get divorced?

One doesn't normally have a divorce with the expectations of remaining closely aligned. The UK wants to have access to the EU for trade, for security, for technology, but doesn't want to pay for the privilege. The analogy of wanting sex with your ex whenever you feel the urge is a pretty close one.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

You referred to Singapore as having a low standard of living for the vast majority. Untrue, but is that an indication of the type of person you associated with when living there?

You also indicated that the UK moving to a managed immigration policy and ending freedom of movement is inconsistent with Singapore's success. Untrue. Singapore ended freedom of movement when it left Malaysia and began to rapidly develop.

sounds like you don't know Singapore at all. Next you are going to tell us is a great democracy

jesus, what a frigging loon you make, are you sharing your password with someone else by any chance?

Originally Posted by Troy

One doesn't normally have a divorce with the expectations of remaining closely aligned. The UK wants to have access to the EU for trade, for security, for technology, but doesn't want to pay for the privilege. The analogy of wanting sex with your ex whenever you feel the urge is a pretty close one.

Do other countries who have free trade deals with the EU have to pay for the privilege? We don't want to be part of their political project, they are free to do what they want with us on the outside, so why the fuck should we be expected to pay to trade with an entity we have a massive deficit with?

Originally Posted by cyrille

^^Well you're making a lot of assumptions there, Nige.

Not sure why you're so keen to get personal.

One might almost think you were a returning poster with a grudge yourself.

Better to leave places that cannot be compared out of things and stick to your laudable aims of a UK with free trade.

I must admit, it would be great if there were a trading block which made this possible with the country's neighbours.

Oh wait...

well put, Nigel is living a pipe dream and a lie

probably a former TDer returning, was he posting on NTD or TC before ?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Do other countries who have free trade deals with the EU have to pay for the privilege? We don't want to be part of their political project, they are free to do what they want with us on the outside, so why the fuck should we be expected to pay to trade with an entity we have a massive deficit with?

The differences between being an EU member, being in the single market, and a free trade agreement have been explained several times to you. Why Dou you continue to think an FTA would provide the same benefits?

and what would be wrong to mix with real Singaporeans outside Orchard road while working there? even if they lived in government housing (most do)? wouldn't you want to look around and investigate the country you work in?

obviously you know nothing of Singapore, and the main reasons businesses are moving there

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

well put, Nigel is living a pipe dream and a lie

probably a former TDer returning, was he posting on NTD or TC before ?

He's posting in a very Smeg-like manner.

Can we get Chief Inspector Ant Robertson involved to take look..

Originally Posted by Neverna

He's posting in a very Smeg-like manner.

That was exactly what I thought.

The girl gang's spidey senses are tingling.

Originally Posted by Neverna

He's posting in a very Smeg-like manner.

yep, could be Noodles though, but wait aren't they the same??

Originally Posted by foobar

Can we get Chief Inspector Ant Robertson involved to take look..

he just needs to put a picture of his kids in this thread, and watch Smeg go into a frenzy and out himself

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

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A forum for civil discussion and exchange of ideas. All posts should include your opinion on the subject, not your opinion of the member posting.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

Thanks Admin.

That's it confirmed then. Welcome back, Smeg.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

We don't want to be part of their political project, they are free to do what they want with us on the outside, so why the fuck should we be expected to pay to trade with an entity we have a massive deficit with?

How much is the trade deal amount?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Do other countries who have free trade deals with the EU have to pay for the privilege? We don't want to be part of their political project, they are free to do what they want with us on the outside, so why the fuck should we be expected to pay to trade with an entity we have a massive deficit with?

Sure we should pay for the privilege of buying more from them than they do from us, or they'll end up selling their cars and blenders to some Nigerian prince.

Originally Posted by Troy

Stop jabbering complete bollox.

For an EU army to work, it would require all members to contribute, each according to its means. Personnel, hardware, finance and, probably a rotating leadership.
It would still suffer from the amalgamated and torturous decision making process that has stymied NATO deployment. That and common user nature’s of munitions, protocols and rules of engagement.

Very true words by Julia, let's bring on a general election and see who gets back into power - let the people just vote for the local MP who is pro-Brexit rather than a particular party.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

The EU enters into FTA's when it sees a benefit to doing so. There is no benefit to the EU in reducing its trade with the UK.

You're getting there. Any FTA would be in the EU's favour so the UK service industry would be taking the hit.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

If the UK leaves with no deal on 12 April the first thing the EU will do is remove the backstop and ask the UK to enter into the amended withdrawal deal because it knows the rest of the agreement including the money is better than nothing.

Its bluff needs to be called.

No they won't. They will shrug their shoulders and wait for the UK to come grovelling back.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

It won't happen like that. If parliament were dumb enough to accept an FTA that is on the other party's favour the British public would simply boycott EU products making the FTA meaningless.

Now you're being silly.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Very true words by Julia, let's bring on a general election and see who gets back into power - let the people just vote for the local MP who is pro-Brexit rather than a particular party.

Every MP would have to state categorically their intentions.

Then Brexit would be a real possibility led by MPs who will enforce the will of the British people.

^ Parliament is doing a good job of representing the people. Like the people they represent, they don't support any way forward with any authority. It's not as if 99% of the electorate voted to leave the EU.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ Parliament is doing a good job of representing the people. Like the people they represent, they don't support any way forward with any authority. It's not as if 99% of the electorate voted to leave the EU.

Parliament is a shambles and an embarrassment!

There would be some squeaky bums by a lot of MPs if a GE was called as their first priority is to themselves and their personal finances.

The new government could be called the Brexit Coalition.

Bring on the GE