Brexit - It's Still On!

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Originally Posted by buriramboy

You really are too fucking moronic to correspond with, the same UKIP who won the last Euro elections as in highest % of the vote. The same UKIP who got best part of 4 million votes in the 2015 general election you gormless fukwit.

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Oh dear, another Brexiteer too dim to understand how a UK General Election result is calculated.

Let me repeat the facts:

UKIP have only ever had 1 MP in parliament at any given time out of a possible 650, which means in the 2015 General Election even though UKIP had 624 candidates contesting 650 seats, they were only able to secure 0.15% of parliamentary seats :) , which is a party failure rate of: 99.8% :).....your idiotic "4 million votes" just shows you don't understand the difference between a Referendum and a General Election. :)

Nigel Farage then went on and lost UKIP's only parliamentary seat even though he was the glorious leader of UKIP. :)

And, UKIP's sole remaining MP, Douglas Carswell, left the party in March 2017, and told Sky News’ Adam Boulton that there was “no point” to the party any longer.
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...I know from your previous failure to comprehend a simple xy graph that you have ongoing issues with basic numeracy so let me know if you need any help digesting these numbers and daddy will come and cut them up for you, I wouldn't want you to choke...

Downing Street has described as "extremely concerning" reports that Conservative backbenchers will propose legislation to stop a no-deal Brexit or suspend the process altogether.


One group, led by former Tory minister Nick Boles and Labour MP Yvette Cooper, is said to be attempting to block the possibility of the UK leaving the EU without an agreement about a future relationship.


A second group, led by former attorney general Dominic Grieve, wants to go further and suspend the Article 50 withdrawal process, the legal means by which the UK would leave.

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Originally Posted by Switch

Do you support the treasonous actions of Bercow, Grieves, Cooper et al?

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Treasonous acts indeed? You're worse than the gutter press sometimes with your atrocious, hyped-up adjectives.

I haven't heard of any resolution to remove the Speaker, nor of the quoted backbenchers losing the whip over their 'actions', although the backbenchers haven't actually done anything yet.

May I refer you to the EU Withdrawal Bill, amendment 19 (Meaningful vote) tabled by Viscount Hailsham:

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A new clause which says that Parliament must approve the withdrawal agreement and transitional measures in an act of Parliament and – if possible – before the European Parliament has debated and voted on this.
The clause also sets out specific deadlines for the Government for agreeing – and legislating for – the withdrawal agreement with the EU. If the Government does not meet those deadlines, the amendment says that it "must follow any direction" approved by a resolution in the House of Commons and considered in the House of Lords. This gives the Commons – not the Lords – the power to decide the next steps for the Government.

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Both Houses accepted the Government’s amendment in lieu which setsout how Parliament will approve the withdrawal agreement and that, if it does not approve, a minister will make a statement setting out how the Government “proposes to proceed” within 28 days.


In addition, the Government accepted that the Commons would have a vote on a motion ‘in neutral terms’ to consider this ministerial statement. It would also have a vote on a motion ‘in neutral terms’ to consider a ministerial statement if no deal is reached with the EU by 21 January 2019.


The big debate was whether this motion was amendable because a motion ‘in neutral terms’ is not amendable. To avoid a defeat in the Commons, the Government published a written statement confirming that it is the role of the Speaker to determine whether it is or not.

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BTW, treason does not include adhering to rebels or pirates...

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Originally Posted by foobar

Downing Street has described as "extremely concerning" reports that Conservative backbenchers will propose legislation to stop a no-deal Brexit or suspend the process altogether.


One group, led by former Tory minister Nick Boles and Labour MP Yvette Cooper, is said to be attempting to block the possibility of the UK leaving the EU without an agreement about a future relationship.


A second group, led by former attorney general Dominic Grieve, wants to go further and suspend the Article 50 withdrawal process, the legal means by which the UK would leave.

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Ah, but it's OK when it's not red terror Corbyn, foobar.

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Originally Posted by NamPikToot

But Troy, according to you and your buddies all those that voted leave are BNP far right loons, all 17 Million.

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I see you need to stand up and bend over slightly before you can speak.

“BTW, treason does not include adhering to rebels or pirates...”
Never mind that you didn’t abnswer the question, were you aware that an MP had colluded with a commons clerk to get Bercow to bring the amendment forward?

Parliament should be allowed to conduct ‘neutral businees’ Without bias, in the form of bent Bercow and his scheming duplicitous clerk.
That is not polemic. It’s a self evident fact that you refuse to see.

Let's keep copying and pasting.
The fact of the matter is that Great Britain has got the balls to change the rotten core of the EU.
The EU countries are shitting bricks.
Next time it'll be on our terms if we wish.

Move Brussels to Darlington :)

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Originally Posted by foobar

The referendum had nothing to do with Farage, no matter how much he pops up in the media and takes credit for it.

It came about as a result of a civil war within the Tory party between modern Tories and what Cameron described as the "swivel eyed loons" within the party. These loons are the type who watched their family's colonial fortunes dwindle over the last century and so harken back to the former glories of Empire etc, these retards really believe that leaving the EU will make this happen rofl! ...you asked earlier in the thread why people keep bringing up Empire in reference to Brexiteers...this is why.

Dave called the referendum because he was sure the British public would never side with the "swivel eyed loons" as their interests and concerns do not converge in any way shape or form. But, he didn't bank on the right wing, poorly educated and butthurt masses being so easily duped via the mainstream media that somehow the EU was to blame for all their ills and if only the UK could leave the EU and stop all those smelly foreigners coming into the country then somehow all the problems: trade deficit, austerity, national debt, job quality, hyper inflation etc would be somehow magically fixed.

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What a repulsive and ignorant post...

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Originally Posted by lom

The backstop is already a kicking of problems down the road.. You want a backstop backstop?

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My post said that the backstop needs to be removed - the EU say they don't want it, the Irish and us say we don't want a hard border ever. It suits nobody and needs to be removed. Rather, it does suit people who never wanted a deal in the first place, and just want to obstruct the deal making process...

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Originally Posted by Troy

^ Good summing up of the Maybot and why she is very much at fault . Brexit was never on Party lines but she failed to include all parties in her discussions. Even after such a heavy defeat in Parliament she is still failing to discuss solutions that the majority of Parliament would agree.

A compromise requires discussion and people to buy into it to succeed. She has failed miserably to discuss in a way that could unite her Cabinet or Parliament let alone open opportunities for compromise with the EU.

She really is not very good at leading and should have resigned...

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Yes, from day 1 it should have been a cross-party effort and been visible for parliament and the electorate.

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Originally Posted by foobar

Brexiteers need to stop repeating this nonsense slogan, it makes you sound incredibly stupid like you don't understand there is an agreed withdrawal period in place that hasn't expired yet.

Did you think the UK would leave the same day the referendum result was announced or?

So if we "just get on with it" and crash out of the EU on the 29th March with no deal, can you tell me what happens to the 54% of UK imports which come from the EU?

Maybe you can start with the fact the UK imports 30% of it's food from the EU as that is a rather pressing matter?

Bearing in mind that any blockage or slowing of these food imports will lead to empty shelves in UK shops.

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Nonsense. Neither the EU nor anybody else wants to stop food exports to the UK - this is childish comment. Legislation can be made in hours (as the French have already done) to support continued cooperation for basic commodities; we pay good money for the food and the EU (as well as the rest of the world) want to sell it to us.

I will not be responding to any more of your posts as they are ignorant, rude and trollish ad nauseam.

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Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

The fact of the matter is that Great Britain has got the balls to change the rotten core of the EU.

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No! The UK are running away from the challenge. They are running away because they don't have the balls to change the direction of the EU.

You're not very bright are you...

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

What a repulsive and ignorant post...

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I will not be responding to any more of your posts as they are ignorant, rude and trollish ad nauseam.

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Well at least buriramboy has a counterpart at last, though the lengthy list of expletive-laden insults is missing and foobar is clearly nowhere near as stupid.

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Originally Posted by Troy

No! The UK are running away from the challenge. They are running away because they don't have the balls to change the direction of the EU.

You're not very bright are you...

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We are not running away.

If it wasn't for Britain, there would be no EU.

We ate cutting the head of a venomous snake that has bled generations dry.
Brexit is for the long time greater good!

Not the short time hypocritical downward spiral of the far left communist sycophants.

We are talking about a reboot here back to the swinging sixties, you remoaners should stop being selfish and blinkered thinking about yourselves and think about the future of Great Britain :UK:

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Originally Posted by Switch

“BTW, treason does not include adhering to rebels or pirates...”
Never mind that you didn’t abnswer the question, were you aware that an MP had colluded with a commons clerk to get Bercow to bring the amendment forward?

Parliament should be allowed to conduct ‘neutral businees’ Without bias, in the form of bent Bercow and his scheming duplicitous clerk.
That is not polemic. It’s a self evident fact that you refuse to see.

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I did answer the question, with a direct quote from the government who allowed the Speaker to make a judgement on this in order to get the A50 negotiations underway in the first place.

It is the clerk's job to provide unbiased, objective answers to MPs questions.

Nothing treacherous, nothing wrong, just pissing off a sulking government that's all.

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Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

If it wasn't for Britain, there would be no EU.

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This isn't actually a reference book, Twitty...

https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2019/01/562.jpg

Sybill, stick to riding on smelly wobble heads.

It's what you do best, you clueless utter knob jockey :)

BTW check out cam08:sexy:

You're almost as repetitive as FRT.

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Originally Posted by cyrille

You're almost as repetitive as FRT.

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You are a repetitive boring troll that contributes zero to the forum.
You are a boring cvnt and always will be, so do us all a favour and fvck off you sad twat.

In fact I'll go one step further and say fvck off to a forum that you caneed bore to death and do tricks for a bottle of cheers beer you total wombat cockwomble .

It's not surprising you destroyed a forum with your toxic personality.

You are a twat.

You are a sad old twat.

You are a sad old limp twat.

:)
Now pretty please with knobs on, Fuck off

Proof that posting drunk at 3am is not advisable.

Also, further evidence that a thought lodges in your long-suffering brain, always first expressed by someone else, and you then spend literally years repeating it.

No wonder you left school with no qualifications.

You really are a dribbling wizards sleeve.
Go take a long look in the mirror.

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Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

We are talking about a reboot here back to the swinging sixties, you remoaners should stop being selfish and blinkered thinking about yourselves and think about the future of Great Britain :UK:

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You do know that is the Union Jack for GB and NI don't you?

Perhaps you would like to go back to this?

https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=26400&stc=1

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

My post said that the backstop needs to be removed - the EU say they don't want it, the Irish and us say we don't want a hard border ever.

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You have clearly not understood the problem, the backstop isn't needed if there is another acceptable solution to the border problem.
No one likes the backstop but it is what Britain, Ireland, and EU could come up with due to time constraint.

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

It suits nobody and needs to be removed. Rather, it does suit people who never wanted a deal in the first place, and just want to obstruct the deal making process...

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Make up your mind, either it suits nobody or suits somebody.

Yeah, Brexit is going to make the Tories suddenly care about the average Brit.
My hometown of Great Yarmouth is going to get hammered by Hard Brexit- which is laughably what they apparently voted for. No grant for the harbor or any infrastructure projects. To hell with improving the local collage and actually giving kids a very real route out of the awful poverty trap that the town can be. It would be a start if folk could stop yanking on their forelock in front of 1%ers like Mogg, Borris and Farage

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Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

We are not running away.

If it wasn't for Britain, there would be no EU.

We ate cutting the head of a venomous snake that has bled generations dry.
Brexit is for the long time greater good!

Not the short time hypocritical downward spiral of the far left communist sycophants.

We are talking about a reboot here back to the swinging sixties, you remoaners should stop being selfish and blinkered thinking about yourselves and think about the future of Great Britain

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You are representing just about everything that is wrong with and in Britain.

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Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Yes, from day 1 it should have been a cross-party effort and been visible for parliament and the electorate.



Nonsense. Neither the EU nor anybody else wants to stop food exports to the UK - this is childish comment. Legislation can be made in hours (as the French have already done) to support continued cooperation for basic commodities; we pay good money for the food and the EU (as well as the rest of the world) want to sell it to us.

I will not be responding to any more of your posts as they are ignorant, rude and trollish ad nauseam.

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Well said BB. I wish others would ignore him too. Responding just serves up another heap of attention for him to produce poorly informed childish speculation over.