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    ^^That's the himbo who was 'surprised' how important Dover was to cross-border trade, so I wouldn't take his word for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    A50 is not about a clean Brexit, it's an exit arrangement pending a negotiated deal

    only in your alternate reality you took this as a hard Brexit,

    now, why did Maybot invoked A50 unprepared, that's another issue, a mistake
    You are wrong as usual. A50 is a mechanism for negotiation. Its shelf life expires on 31 March 2019. If UK wants to change it, legislation would be required.
    Do you have any more fake news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    It's written in clear English you leave after 2 years, if haven't negotiated a deal within those 2 years then you leave without a deal. Everyone was clear on this and knew what they were voting for, there is no room for misunderstanding. They all voted for a clean Brexit if a deal couldn't be reached.
    they either changed their mind after the failed negotiation, or didn't know what they were voting for, or both

    either way, they can ask for an extension, which will be granted for sure

    people have the right to change their mind, and so another REF2 might be necessary to confirm the choice of the British people

    maybe in 2 years, so that would be 5 years between REF, not a bad thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    You are wrong as usual. A50 is a mechanism for negotiation. Its shelf life expires on 31 March 2019. If UK wants to change it, legislation would be required.
    Do you have any more fake news?
    and can be extended easily, and it will. Hard Brexit is not going to happen, that's a pipe dream for all the nutters like you

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    and again it can be written all over the place, it doesn't mean it has to happen or will happen automatically

    above all when all your MPs are against a hard Brexit,

    confusing again what is written on a piece of paper as gospels, the signature of gullible followers

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    listen, you are in a small boat in a middle of a shit storm, and you guys are arguing about the accuracy of the passenger manifest

    that's how fucked up you are

    and everyone in the EU is laughing at you,

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    the core of matter remains, your Exit deal is not going to be any better, no matter the tantrum or the options chosen to exit

    otherwise it's REMAIN, and we can't let that happen

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    Quite a big boat we are in actually, that being the 5th or 6th biggest economy in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    they either changed their mind after the failed negotiation, or didn't know what they were voting for, or both

    either way, they can ask for an extension, which will be granted for sure

    people have the right to change their mind, and so another REF2 might be necessary to confirm the choice of the British people

    maybe in 2 years, so that would be 5 years between REF, not a bad thing
    You are talking and not listening again. Just piss off with your no mark lack of knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Quite a big boat we are in actually, that being the 5th or 6th biggest economy in the world.
    actually 6th or 7th can't remember, since France claims to be 5th

    the shit storm you are facing is going to put you in 10th with Pakistan and India

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    You are talking and not listening again. Just piss off with your no mark lack of knowledge.
    listening to what? your crap? go fooking change your shit filled diaper, you silly pensioner tyrant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    and can be extended easily, and it will. Hard Brexit is not going to happen, that's a pipe dream for all the nutters like you
    You know the anwer to a question that has not been asked yet. Neither the UK parliament, nor the 27 remaining states have been asked to extend A50.
    You are talking shite and not listening to answers again.
    Just quit with your personal agenda of hatred and the trolling on this thread. Don’t forget your poodle when you fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    listening to what? your crap? go fooking change your shit filled diaper, you silly pensioner tyrant
    Plenty of people on here have knowledge and understanding that exceeds your amoeba like excuse for a brain. You can’t even think of original or effective insults. Anyway, why are you still here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    actually 6th or 7th can't remember, since France claims to be 5th

    the shit storm you are facing is going to put you in 10th with Pakistan and India
    If you cannot provide credible links to all your thin air claims on this post, either shut up or fuck off. There’s a good little golliwog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    listen, you are in a small boat in a middle of a shit storm, and you guys are arguing about the accuracy of the passenger manifest

    that's how fucked up you are

    and everyone in the EU is laughing at you,
    Show links or piss off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    and again it can be written all over the place, it doesn't mean it has to happen or will happen automatically

    above all when all your MPs are against a hard Brexit,

    confusing again what is written on a piece of paper as gospels, the signature of gullible followers
    Article 50 was drafted approved and passed into law by your beloved EU, you total fucking muppet.

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    of course it will be extended, what's the alternative? hard Brexit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Article 50 was drafted approved and passed into law by your beloved EU, you total fucking muppet.
    doesn't mean it will not be extended or an automatic legal apparatus will not be found to avoid hard brexit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    If they kept the freedom of goods and services, they could change the rules on free movement within the guidelines of the EU.
    Freedom of movement is one of EU's pillars, I doubt they will allow any changes to it.
    It is a package and you can't pick only one of the free movements, it is all of them or none of them.

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    BBC Parliament - but some shit you just can't make up - 3rd sentence



    Business kicks off in the Commons shortly, with MPs asking questions of Scotland ministers.


    We'll keep you updated with that, after which Theresa May returns to the House for Prime Minister's Questions at noon.


    After that, a ten minute rule bill will be introduced by Conservative MP Vicky Ford (it's about banning low-level letterboxes), before MPs begin to debate a motion of no confidence in the government.


    Voting will start at around 19:00 GMT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    doesn't mean it will not be extended or a legal apparatus will not be found to avoid hard brexit
    As I have already said, you have not been listening. Your personal hatred index seems to forbid it. I will use upper case just for you numb nuts.
    ARTICLE 50 CAN ONLY BE EXTENDED BY THE UK GOVERNMENT PASSING LEGISLATION. IT ALSO REQUIRES THE AGREEMENT OF ALL 27 MEMBER TO APPROVE IT. THE TIME FOR LEGISLATION HAS ALMOST PASSED. AFTER THE NO CONFIDENCE VOTE, AND MAYS PLAN B NEXT WEEK, THE TIME TO LEGISLATE WILL HAVE GONE.

    You can say shit all you like, it’s just wishful thinking on your part.
    IT IS NO LONGER AN OPTION.

    You can go now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    As I have already said, you have not been listening. Your personal hatred index seems to forbid it. I will use upper case just for you numb nuts.
    ARTICLE 50 CAN ONLY BE EXTENDED BY THE UK GOVERNMENT PASSING LEGISLATION. IT ALSO REQUIRES THE AGREEMENT OF ALL 27 MEMBER TO APPROVE IT. THE TIME FOR LEGISLATION HAS ALMOST PASSED. AFTER THE NO CONFIDENCE VOTE, AND MAYS PLAN B NEXT WEEK, THE TIME TO LEGISLATE WILL HAVE GONE.

    You can say shit all you like, it’s just wishful thinking on your part.
    IT IS NO LONGER AN OPTION.

    You can go now.
    He's not very bright you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    The backstop issue is what makes the deal toxic for many, while that's not all that's wrong with the deal it is the deal breaker for many. If the EU weren't such boneheads on the issue and hadn't used Ireland as their pawn to extract concessions that were never going to be acceptable then Doris would probably have got her deal through.

    Will the EU agree to scrap the backstop, unlikely but only way Doris deal is ever going to get through.
    EU overplayed a good hand dealt to them by two incompetent PMs. The defeat was so overwhelming that May and the gods have little to zero wiggle room; no way can they 'clarify' the backstop in such a way as to make it acceptable, and any attempt to do so would be viewed for what it is, a bully confronted, u-turn, weakness, loss of face, and worse, a signal to others eyeing the exit.

    The past two years have shown us who are 'friends' are; would anyone here trust any of them to hold the water while you're crossing a desert?

    Now we need to get as far away as possible before the first of PIIGS turns up with begging bowl and razor at wrist for the illegal non repayable loans that Frau has made clear she will not sign off. But no need to panic, it might not happen for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    the core of matter remains, your Exit deal is not going to be any better, no matter the tantrum or the options chosen to exit

    otherwise it's REMAIN, and we can't let that happen
    Do you believe the EU gods want us to leave? May did not conspire in negotiations to produce this deal so that she could hand over 39bn as a golden handshake on our way out; there never was a way out; the deal she negotiated was designed to be so transparently rotten that even a bunch of easily intimidated MPs would reject it, and the only surprise was the record number of votes against.

    EU is bust, they need us and our money, and hopefully she steps down for a Brexit leader so they don't get it.

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