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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    So now the collapse of Monarch is down to Brexit is it? FFS you just can't make this shit up. Go and research the company a bit and you'll see why it collapsed but I'm sure all the staff will be able to find employment with Ryan air.
    'FFS', are you ever going to get a clue? Why don't you take your own advice?

    And spare us your boring bullshit about which sources you approve and disapprove of. You don't get to decide where other people 'go and research a company'. Try some research of your own.

    Monarch's problems can be summed up very succinctly: Falling revenues and rising costs, says Blair Nimmo of the airline's administrator, KPMG.[
    Many of the big costs of running Monarch, such as fuel and handling charges, are denominated in dollars.
    But the pound has fallen by about 10% against the dollar since the Brexit vote, meaning the airline is having to pay more to buy its fuel.
    At the same time, Monarch's sales have fallen due to increased competition.
    "Prices have been depressed for some time," says
    Mr Nimmo.
    "To give an example of that, the company flew 14% more passengers last year, but for £100m less revenue."


    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41466722



    [Quote]Marc Meyohas (Greybull Capital's founder) told the Telegraph that the combination of a weak pound since the Brexit referendum, the increase in terrorist attacks in the Middle East and Europe, and ongoing Brexit uncertainty proved to be "pretty large headwinds" that Monarch couldn't cope with because of its relatively small size.
    Weaker sterling has been an issue for all British airlines since the Brexit vote the slump in the pound has cost easyJet £90 million — and Monarch was no different. The weak pound both lowered the number of people able to afford a holiday and increased the airline's fuel costs.[/Quote]

    http://www.businessinsider.com/monarch-airlines-collapse-what-happened-explained-2017-10


    (And before you start on about me not knowing how to quote....quoting on this forum is fucked.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    So now the collapse of Monarch is down to Brexit is it? FFS you just can't make this shit up. Go and research the company a bit and you'll see why it collapsed but I'm sure all the staff will be able to find employment with Ryan air.
    You do have a habit of falling through all the trap doors don't you. I neither said, nor implied that the collapse of Monarch was due to Brexit. I said its collapse puts the UK in an even weaker position.

    Pilots are leaving Ryan air because they are unhappy with pay and conditions. I am quite sure pilots from Monarch would feel the same and find employment other than with Ryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    How have they backed down on citizens rights, everyone has always said anyone here should be allowed to stay but whether they will need visas or work permits is going to take time to sort out. Nothing to see here.

    Of course we won't have the clean exit many people want as you have a pro EU civil service and the government led by a remoaner.
    now your silly officials are asking for a transition period that is more than 2 years

    you bitches are going to pay up

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    An entertaining read if you all like getting a rise out of the garlic munchers with a yellow streak down their back.



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    nice try harry, what about the same version by the Indians with the Brits

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    (Mr Tice) said the BDI should be pressing German chancellor Angela Merkel to get the EU "to stop blocking trade talks... It is the EU27 who will suffer most in the event of no deal - Britain will thrive under WTO rules."



    Plan for a very hard Brexit, German firms told - BBC News
    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"

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    ^ Is that following the article in Süddeutsche Zeitung this week suggesting Ms May recognises she has lost her battle with the EU?

    Großbritannien - May ahnt, dass sie verloren hat - Politik - Süddeutsche.de

    The link is to the article I am referring but remember it's in German...

    Loosely translated, the article regards her speech at the Tory Party Conference as so pitiful even her enemies felt they had to help her out. It points out that the Tories still have no concrete plans re Brexit and failed miserably to come up with any constructive ideas during the conference. It seems as though PM May is resigned to the fact that she won't be able to make a deal with the EU [that also satisfes the Brexiters]. It looks like a no deal will be the outcome of the talks....

    In a way I think the UK deserves the fate that they have voted for. A hard Brexit in March 2019 and see who manages to pick up the pieces. The EU are not going to back down on any of their core principles whatever the UK press or die-hard Brexiteers think. It may simply require the UK to roll around squealing in their own manure for a few years before being hosed down and brought back to their senses

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    Who is asking the EU to back down on any of their core principles? They are free to do what they want, just we won't be a part of it. You still don't seem to accept we are leaving. Everyone should be happy with a hard Brexit as anything less isn't Brexit. And if and when the EU wants favourable access to our markets we'll listen to their proposals.

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    I agree, I don't see how it can be anything else than a hard brexit

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    ^^ You still don't understand do you...

    ...It is the UK that is trying to negotiate a trade deal with the EU after Brexit. It is the UK that will suffer the most if there is no trade deal. It is Germany and France and Eire that will benefit financially if passporting rights are lost in London. It will be EU Countries that will benefit if UK medicine rights are lost and transferred to an EU country. It is London that will lose out if a Hard Brexit occurs.

    Boris should read his book: Johnson's Life of London and remember the influence of trade and trade routes, remind himself of the way other cities self-destructed and think twice or even thrice about Brexit before flying off to Pattaya, booking in to the top floor of the tallest hotel and checking out his batman suit with a bellyful of Turkish delights.

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    Varoufakis was correct.

    brussels will tie the uk up in knots, refuse to budge and make any meaningful negotiations impossible, the situation is not helped of course by the bickering in the tory party and the way the press, both in the eu and the uk have come down on teresa may, and for fukks sake, she only had a coughing fit and a couple of letters fell off the slogan. 10 years ago such events would not even have been mentioned in the media, but with todays media led by the baying twitterati and the pitchfork bearing bbc, she didnt have a chance.

    we should be preparing for a hard brexit and not paying brussels one single penny. the eu has a whole raft of problems on the horizon that will slowly but surely fracture their ridiculously unworkable alliance over the next few years.

    history will show we made the correct choice, even though we may initially suffer.

    fukk the self important eurocrats and the greedy germans leeching off the backs of their supposed partners ... who are too dumb and institutionalised to stand up for themselves and say enough is enough.

    they have all become nothing more than serfs to the grandiose delusions of the overpaid ego driven brussels bureaucrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    fukk the self important eurocrats and the greedy germans leeching off the backs of their supposed partners .
    I intend to fcuk the Germans good and proper next year, throwing their own laws back in their faces whilst lounging on my veranda in Thailand. Just when they need me most, I will be planting my rice fields and being paid handsomely for it.

    It doesn't make Brexit any better though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    the situation is not helped of course by the bickering in the tory party and the way the press, both in the eu and the uk have come down on teresa may, and for fukks sake, she only had a coughing fit and a couple of letters fell off the slogan. 10 years ago such events would not even have been mentioned in the media, but with todays media led by the baying twitterati and the pitchfork bearing bbc, she didnt have a chance.
    Letters falling off a sign behind an accident-prone PM leading a serially incompetent party?

    That would make the news everyday that even you have been alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    You still don't seem to accept we are leaving.
    I'm sure everyone accepts by now that Britain is leaving, it's the lack of planning and ludicrous bluster from UK.Gov that is the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    In a way I think the UK deserves the fate that they have voted for. A hard Brexit in March 2019 and see who manages to pick up the pieces.
    At which time I will be considering my move out of the ME and the choice will be Germany, France or UK... and there's no fucking way I'm heading to the UK under such economic uncertainty. It's ridiculous and somewhat disturbing the way Brexiters think things will just naturally fall in to place for the UK, starting a new golden age to benefit the population.. as if social and economic prosperity where ever evenly distributed anyway.

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    That would make the news everyday that even you have been alive.

    in the twitter and facebook echo chambers that mould the opinions of the easily manipulated, infantile, bandwagon riding malleable oafs that seem to make up most of the chatterati these days it might.

    for the sensible battle hardened pragmatic realists amongst us it most certainly doesnt.

    a massacre of innocents at a concert in nevada or manchester is news of relevance.

    and a politician with a cough or a velcro'd letter falling of a display most certainly isnt.

    are you a tefler by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    history will show we made the correct choice
    like the last 2000 years as fractured bickering warlike states led mainly by euro drumpfs has proven

    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    teresa may
    she is being kept as the patsy to be thrown to the masses when they finally realise their pissing contest dribbled

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    in the twitter and facebook echo chambers that mould the opinions of the easily manipulated, infantile, bandwagon riding malleable oafs that seem to make up most of the chatterati these days it might.

    for the sensible battle hardened pragmatic realists amongst us it most certainly doesn't.
    So what makes the news is decided by what type of person reads it? Are you OK?


    are you a tefler by any chance?
    It seems you might need a brush-up.

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    cyrille, news is not insignificant occurrences exaggerated out of all proportion and made to fit the desired agenda by a biased media and presented to the public as earth shattering headline happenings, thereby snowballing public opinion in the direction desired by that media.

    events should be reported in an unbiased factual manner and the public left to draw their own conclusions.

    these days the public are mostly fickle gullible sheep whom, thanks to their dumbing down, brainwashing and inability to process anything more complicated than a football result or a celebrity's latest infidelity will believe anything they are told and for the most part are unable to form, hold and defend their own opinions in a logical manner.

    they, like yourself, believe that which they are fed.

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    Tax, what you fail to realize is that once you will fall with the Hard Brexit, you won't be able to stand up on your own

    you are simply fucked, and don't get me wrong, it couldn't happen to a better bunch of fookers, so I am in full support of Brexit

    that said, England strong culture and national pride is really incompatible with any union of any sorts,

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    events should be reported in an unbiased factual manner and the public left to draw their own conclusions.
    Yeah, good luck with that.

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    The pound has taken another little drop. Looks like there's a fear May is on her last legs as leader of the tories. Boris taking over is a scare but another GE with Corbyn taking over will be the scariest prospect.

    Is the Brexit drama going to take another turn before 2017 comes to an end?

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    I hope Boris take over,

    now the fun will begin

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    your hubris is typical of you franco belgian dreamers.

    in 5 years the eu will be on its knees, (just like you are most of the time i suspect), and the uk will be doing just fine. plodding along as usual, still grumbling and bitching, but no worse off than we are now.

    the torys will ride out this storm, a storm exaggerated out of all proportion by the media and gleefully jumped upon by the goalpost shifting eu mandarins in order to justify their obstinacy and inflexibility.

    fuck them. we will eventually be better off out and letting the eu stew in the problems it is making for itself in the future.

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    all the stupid britishers voted to leave the EU without even knowing what it was - ignorant cnuts

    Google said the search term was its second most popular EU-related question in the UK following the shock triumph of the Leave campaign.

    Eight hours after the polls closed, the internet giant also reported that searches for “What happens if we leave the EU?” had more than tripled.

    The run-up to the vote was marked by a bitterly divided campaign centred on fears over immigration and the global economy.
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3280581.html

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