Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Mandaloopy

Apparently, there is a new supermarket in England called "Jacks" unlike the normal Tescos it only has a line of 2500 items rather than the normal 25,000- sums Brexit up perfectly- a sad shadow of what we had and a bit shit.

We don't really manufacture much, anything that we could make China and the rest of the developing world could do cheaper and on a far grander scale.
When 27 becomes 26, who do you think is going to have more economic leverage? A relatively small island or a bloc of 26 countries who can offer a far better deal due to size, pre-existing market access, and financial clout?

Jack's has been brought about by Tesco as a response to the German Aldi and Lidl cut price supermarkets. Let's see how the venture progresses in the next few months.

WRT to economic leverage, sure, collectively the EU is significant, however of the current 28 nations (note, 28 not 27 that you're implying), only Germany has a larger GDP than the UK, and in fact the UK's GDP is greater than that of the lowest 17 nations of the EU put together. You need to get some perspective Mandy, and distance yourself from the 'little Englander' jibes and smug comments coming from our neighbours. Loss of the UK trade is a significant loss to the EU, but the reality is they will still trade with the UK and vice versa under WTO terms.

Originally Posted by jabir

Someone tell the Belgian guy to stop...

Two oddities, for sure.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Like hell we will. Only a few stoopid remoaners will keep moaning. The rest will breathe fresh air, eat curly bananas again and wish we'd told the Euro trash to fuck off earlier.

well it's funny because here in France, always been curly bananas, not sure why they were not on your side of the river

must be a British thing

Whoooossshhhhh.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

well it's funny because here in France, always been curly bananas, not sure why they were not on your side of the river

must be a British thing

Let's hope you can afford curly bananas after the next financial crash, life would dreadfully boring without you.

Originally Posted by PAG

Jack's has been brought about by Tesco as a response to the German Aldi and Lidl cut price supermarkets. Let's see how the venture progresses in the next few months.

WRT to economic leverage, sure, collectively the EU is significant, however of the current 28 nations (note, 28 not 27 that you're implying), only Germany has a larger GDP than the UK, and in fact the UK's GDP is greater than that of the lowest 17 nations of the EU put together. You need to get some perspective Mandy, and distance yourself from the 'little Englander' jibes and smug comments coming from our neighbours. Loss of the UK trade is a significant loss to the EU, but the reality is they will still trade with the UK and vice versa under WTO terms.

The truth of the matter is that France, Germany and Italy lead the UK in manufacturing and its only a matter of time when Spain leapfrogs Blighty.

Britain's decision to exclude itself from unfettered access to 500 million consumers in the wealthiest trading bloc in the world will fuck it for a decade to come during which its emergence from recession and the disaster of 2008 will reverse itself and spiral into a stagflation depression which will contract manufacturing further.

Devaluation, inflation, wage restraint, rising prices and increased taxation will fuck disposable income to a degree that our consumer led economy will collapse/\.

A busted flush, two bit economy based on debt and buying shit is the reality of modern UK.

Watching it crash and burn over the next year will be a pleasure to behold.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

how is that even relevant, you cretin chav ?

Who can name the leader of that spastic country Belgium, or even 4 famous Belgians? It's a nothing country of nobodies that never did anything

A good read if you're not a Belgian. https://pethatesblog.wordpress.com/2...omment-page-1/



Grow up Belgium

TBF I have enjoyed some good times in Belgium. The Ardennes is lovely at the right time of the year. Good food from nice restaurants that never take themselves too seriously. Local fast food is good too. The Belgian frikadelle is nothing like the kraut version. It’s a delicious sausage, great with fries and mayonnaise.
Belgians dont make beer, they make lager and all lager is piss, only fit for lager louts. They do produce some great pate, both coarse and fine, with Brussels and Ardennes being my favourites.

This is all to the good, but their biggest failing is exporting big headed fat twats like butterfly, who are so pitifully egotistical it beggars belief. He somehow manages to be a failure on every subject, and to do it with public regularity on here.
Not sure if that’s a win for Belgium or not. lol

At last count we have a French president distracting from his own scandals to accuse the Brits of lying, Frau Merkel dug in against the next financial down cycle and keeping a beady eye on other suspected recidivists, Greece due to apply for their next nonrepayable loan, Italy calculating how big their rightful mountain of free money should be, a Pole perfectly sums up the unelected EU dictators' contempt for the UK, its PM and people, while the leader of mighty midget Malta tells us to vote again. Add this to the disgusting treatment of May throughout and at the salt factory most recently, and even the intellectually challenged should realise that far from being strong the EU is weak and weakening, gone all in with 7 high and doomed by its own leadership which nobody dares to notice are desperate politicians that only got there after serial failures at their real jobs.

Not too much, about the Belgian's level of common sense would have any group of reasonable people see Brexit as a warning and take stock of its causes, since Brits love to groan but are not traditionally militant for change, but instead the arrogant EU mafia cling to zero tolerance and send out the sicario, which ironically strengthens rather than weakens May's position.

While nobody can more than guess whether it'll be deal or no deal, soft or hard, short term pain for long term gain, long term pain with no gain or any combo, for Britain, the only thing we know for certain is that EU leaders have bought this Socialist Project a one-way ticket to the blues. And the amusing bit is that they're pointing and laughing at the Brits for leaving this glorious ride into oblivion.

Originally Posted by Switch

TBF I have enjoyed some good times in Belgium. The Ardennes is lovely at the right time of the year. Good food from nice restaurants that never take themselves too seriously. Local fast food is good too. The Belgian frikadelle is nothing like the kraut version. It’s a delicious sausage, great with fries and mayonnaise.
Belgians dont make beer, they make lager and all lager is piss, only fit for lager louts. They do produce some great pate, both coarse and fine, with Brussels and Ardennes being my favourites.

This is all to the good, but their biggest failing is exporting big headed fat twats like butterfly, who are so pitifully egotistical it beggars belief. He somehow manages to be a failure on every subject, and to do it with public regularity on here.
Not sure if that’s a win for Belgium or not. lol

ha, the sweet sound of butthurt from an irrelevant British Pensioner,

have a last gauffre before you are cut off from the rest of the world

you silly fookers are funny, blaming everyone else for your own mistakes, so typically British irresponsible and childish

We can only hope that Brexit is the first one in a long series of liabilities that the EU needs to cut itself off from,

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

We can only hope that Brexit is the first one in a long series of liabilities that the EU needs to cut itself off from,

I fully agree.

Rumours of a snap GE in October are getting stronger. Imagine the fun of that resulting in a labour/liberal coalition. Oh my, and to think brexit looked bad.

How does the Maybot manage to go from humiliation to humiliation without understanding she is the butt of everyone's jokes. Anyone with half a brain would have conceded defeat by now. It's time someone threw the towel in for her...

I still don't see a better trade alternative to staying in, but I guess no-one can save that option now. Not unless we agree to burn Farage at the stake and put the maybot in the witching chair.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The truth of the matter is that France, Germany and Italy lead the UK in manufacturing and its only a matter of time when Spain leapfrogs Blighty.

Britain's decision to exclude itself from unfettered access to 500 million consumers in the wealthiest trading bloc in the world will fuck it for a decade to come during which its emergence from recession and the disaster of 2008 will reverse itself and spiral into a stagflation depression which will contract manufacturing further.

Devaluation, inflation, wage restraint, rising prices and increased taxation will fuck disposable income to a degree that our consumer led economy will collapse/\.

A busted flush, two bit economy based on debt and buying shit is the reality of modern UK.

Watching it crash and burn over the next year will be a pleasure to behold.

It's truly amazing that the Tories swept to power on a ticket to 'fix broken Britain' namely the economy then completley failed to meet any of the economic targets they set for themselves instead delivering Brexit which is akin to a doctor attempting to cure a patient's cancer by giving him a good kicking. If you think the blaming and teeth gnashing of Brexiteers is bad now wait until immigration hits records levels as the UK economy implodes and the immigrants are coming from outside the EU to take the low paid jobs which used to be held by the Brexiteer demographic.

Originally Posted by Troy

Rumours of a snap GE in October are getting stronger.

Not a chance of that.

Originally Posted by Troy

Anyone with half a brain would have conceded defeat by now. It's time someone threw the towel in for her...

Have you gone all French on us, Troy?

Originally Posted by Troy

I still don't see a better trade alternative to staying in

You are missing the point. Again. We are leaving. Which part of that do you not understand?

Originally Posted by Troy

but I guess no-one can save that option now.

Oh, you do. At last. Congratulations.

Commenting on what an extended exercise of self-flagellation the whole thing is does not 'miss the point'.

Problem is even when we do leave, whether deal or no deal or soft or hard it's not permanent, since any future PM can call a new referendum which would take the circus to new levels. No surprise that Labour front bench have begun electioneering with that offer, which contradicts Corbyn's position, but that's just another in a long line of indicators that Brit politik belongs in ICU.

As of yesterday analysts were predicting the £ is taking a deep breath up for the next slide, and pencilled it in at between 32 and 38 in 5 years.

Good news is it can't get much worse.

Originally Posted by jabir

Good news is it can't get much worse.

of course it will get much worse, this is just the beginning of the roller coaster

Ever been on a roller coaster? They go up and down but end up level.
Unlike the EU.

Originally Posted by jabir

Good news is it can't get much worse.

That's what Neville Chamberlain said.

oh yeah, I am sure in 300 years, the UK will be in better shape

not looking good on Maybot camp, and to make things worse, Labor is throwing their own wrench into the mix

it's a fooking Monthy Python show

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

it's a fooking Monthy Python show

This one's good. 30 seconds in.

Selling out to the Chinkies. Might as well, foreigners own most of Britain's assets of value anyway.

Britain will "plant a flag" and signal its interest to join an Australian-led Trans Pacific Partnership after it withdraws from the European Union, its Minister of State for Trade says, as the world prepares for a reshuffle of the global trade order.


In the strongest comments on the British government's post-Brexit intentions to date, Baroness Rona Fairhead said Australia was in its top three trading priorities and the UK would look to begin bilateral discussions with Canberra through the technology, science and education sectors.

It will also look to establish London as a funding and facilitation hub for China's $US2 trillion Belt and Road initiative - a program that Australia has been wary of as China's power grows in the Pacific - but that Australian companies could take advantage of via Britain.


Baroness Fairhead said she had been urged to make the UK a very strong global "champion for free trade" despite the political turmoil unleashed by Brexit, as it prepares to lose access to the EU's single market and force it renegotiate its terms world-wide.

That imperative was underscored on Wednesday when US President Donald Trump told the UN General Assembly the White House: "rejects the ideology of globalism and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism".



The UK's trade and export envoy echoed comments by Trade Minister Simon Birmingham that some of Mr Trump's grievances were legitimate, but that it was important to have an international dialogue through improved diplomatic channels.


"We are fervent supporters of free trade," she told Fairfax Media. "We actually think it is better for people in the UK to live in a world where there is free trade, but it has to be based on fair and rules based order. We will continue to argue for that as we thrash through these complicated issues."

The comments, which could raise eyebrows among diplomats frustrated by Britain's actions in Brussels, come as the British opposition proposes a second referendum on Brexit if Prime Minister Theresa May fails to get a deal through Westminster.

The internal unrest has meant that staking out future trade deals has been difficult for Britain's representatives, with the country banned from formally negotiating new deals until after it officially leaves the EU in March 2019.



But the restrictions have not stopped the government from beginning consultation processes on both the TPP-11 and a future Australian bilateral trade agreement - two of only four deals currently under active consideration. The others are with the US and New Zealand.

"We recognise the TPP-11 has not been fully implemented, that not all of the nations have ratified, and the countries have not agreed to the rules of the ascension of future members," she said after a Committee for Economic Development lunch in Melbourne on Thursday.

"But what we wanted was to make sure that we plant a flag and that it was recognised that we would be interested when those rules develop."


Britain would look to push service sector deals through the separate Australian bilateral, she said, with a particular focus on technology, sciences, education, artificial intelligence and cyber security.



Australian policymakers see little point signing a free trade deal with Britain unless it involves a better deal for Australian beef and wine producers, with the service sectors making up only a small proportion of an estimated $12.6 billion agreement.

Baroness Fairhead would not comment on the make-up of future farming opportunities who have had their access limited to the EU and the UK markets by subsidised local operators and quotas.

"Our aim - like in all our existing agreements, as far as we possibly can, is to cut and paste or roll over to keep things as unchanged as possible," she said.

Senator Birmingham said giving farmers access to millions of potential customers was "a big protection at a time when there's clearly a lot of uncertainty around what players like the US and China are doing".Britain would look to push service sector deals through the separate Australian bilateral, she said, with a particular focus on technology, sciences, education, artificial intelligence and cyber security.


Australian policymakers see little point signing a free trade deal with Britain unless it involves a better deal for Australian beef and wine producers, with the service sectors making up only a small proportion of an estimated $12.6 billion agreement.

Baroness Fairhead would not comment on the make-up of future farming opportunities who have had their access limited to the EU and the UK markets by subsidised local operators and quotas.

"Our aim - like in all our existing agreements, as far as we possibly can, is to cut and paste or roll over to keep things as unchanged as possible," she said.

Senator Birmingham said giving farmers access to millions of potential customers was "a big protection at a time when there's clearly a lot of uncertainty around what players like the US and China are doing".

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...26-p5063d.html