Thread: Is North Koreas time up..?

Maybe TD needs a North Korea sub-forum

https://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...-numbered.html (Korean conflict? KJU's days numbered?)

https://teakdoor.com/world-news/17484...hreat-not.html

https://teakdoor.com/world-news/17417...rth-korea.html (Tillerson: Military action against North Korea 'an option')

https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...is-thread.html

https://teakdoor.com/world-news/17133...-warheads.html (North Korea 'capable of attaching nuclear warheads to missiles')

https://teakdoor.com/world-news/17782...a-missile.html (Hawaii Prepares for 'Unlikely' North Korea Missile Threat)

https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...re-drills.html (US Bombers Hold Live-Fire Drills Near North Korea)

https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...ared-land.html (North Korea fires what appeared to be land-to-ship missiles: South Korea)

https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...ile-500km.html (North Korea fires Ballistic missile 500km)

Originally Posted by Looper

Maybe TD needs a North Korea sub-forum

https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...is-thread.html

I think this one has particular merit ...


BTW, ole' Kim Jong-un isn't looking to fire first or invade anyone.
He just wants to make sure that no-one comes knocking on his door.

Originally Posted by Looper

Maybe TD needs a North Korea sub-forum

Or a North Korea "Mega Thread".

Originally Posted by David48atTD

I think this one has particular merit ...

That is one of my personal favourites D

Originally Posted by David48atTD

BTW, ole' Kim Jong-un isn't looking to fire first or invade anyone. He just wants to make sure that no-one comes knocking on his door.

That theory of NK missile strategy does not really fly with me...(!)

Any country looking to proliferate nuclear missile tech, in an age when the world is moving towards limitation, reduction and ultimately elimination, needs to be stamped on and stamped on hard.

Not yet.
The traditional Western powers require invented boogiemen to perpetuate and justify their pathetic existences.

And so it goes.

Originally Posted by Looper

Any country looking to proliferate nuclear missile tech, in an age when the world is moving towards limitation, reduction and ultimately elimination, needs to be stamped on and stamped on hard.

"Any country"? Do you really mean ANY of all nuclear ones?

BTW, "the world is moving towards limitation, reduction and ultimately elimination" - do you have a link?

This is a new provocation/strategy on the part of the states. Flying bombers over the country. The Koreans were probably caught with their pants down.
What will happen if the yanks do it again but this time the Koreans manage to get a missile off and get lucky.
How will the yanks retaliate.

Originally Posted by Cujo

The Koreans were probably caught with their pants down.

happens pretty often...they did it last month too

http://https://www.theguardian.com/w...s-nuclear-test

Originally Posted by Klondyke

"Any country"? Do you really mean ANY of all nuclear ones?

I mean any non-nuclear armed states looking to achieve a nuclear capability.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

BTW, "the world is moving towards limitation, reduction and ultimately elimination" - do you have a link?

Jesus F'in H Christ, do you really need friggin spoonfed with a google link to prove the bleedin obvious?

Why would civilised western nations be interested in anything other than reduction and elimination?

Nuclear weapons are of zero tactical use to civilised countries because the threat is not credible. Nobody would believe that a civilised western country would actually use nuclear weapons for any reason under any circumstances.

They are taboo. They are toxic. They are unusable.

The only organisations to whom nuclear weapons are useful as a credible threat are rogue nations and terrorists.

That is why the civilised world is only moving in one direction: towards reduction and elimination.

Originally Posted by fred flintstone

Originally Posted by Cujo

The Koreans were probably caught with their pants down.

happens pretty often...they did it last month too

http://https://www.theguardian.com/w...s-nuclear-test

Interesting. I missed that.

^The link does not work now

page 404

what was it about?

Originally Posted by Looper

^The link does not work now

try this....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-nuclear-test

Originally Posted by Looper

The only organisations to whom nuclear weapons are useful as a credible threat are rogue nations and terrorists.

That is why the civilised world is only moving in one direction: towards reduction and elimination.

Tell it to the states that are not part of any treaty, nor member of the Intl. nuke commission, nor having shown to anybody what they possess.

Haven't you ever heard about one? (I do not dare to mention one such name...)

Originally Posted by Cujo

Interesting. I missed that.

I think the Japanese flying along with the US and ROK is something new.

Won't happen peaceably, unless fatboy and the queue of wannabe successors are taken out in one big putsch.

Originally Posted by Looper

Originally Posted by "Klondyke"

"Any country"? Do you really mean ANY of all nuclear ones?

I mean any non-nuclear armed states looking to achieve a nuclear capability.

Originally Posted by "Klondyke"

BTW, "the world is moving towards limitation, reduction and ultimately elimination" - do you have a link?

Jesus F'in H Christ, do you really need friggin spoonfed with a google link to prove the bleedin obvious?

Why would civilised western nations be interested in anything other than reduction and elimination?

Nuclear weapons are of zero tactical use to civilised countries because the threat is not credible. Nobody would believe that a civilised western country would actually use nuclear weapons for any reason under any circumstances.

They are taboo. They are toxic. They are unusable.

The only organisations to whom nuclear weapons are useful as a credible threat are rogue nations and terrorists.

That is why the civilised world is only moving in one direction: towards reduction and elimination.

The United States is undertaking a trillion dollar upgrade of its nuclear arsenal. Britain is going to replace Trident. The Russians have been busy upgrading their nuclear weapons. The Chinese, needless to say, have been updating their ICBMs, fitting them with multiple warheads. The French, well, I don't know much about them but I don't think Macron has got any plans to get rid of their nuclear missiles. And India, Pakistan and Israel don't seem to be doing an awful lot to get rid of theirs.

Your ignorance and stupidity is only equalled by your ignorance of your stupidity. Stick to playing with your Action Men and model planes. Twat.

US detects 'highly unusual' North Korean submarine activity

)The US military has detected "highly unusual and unprecedented levels" of North Korean submarine activity and evidence of an "ejection test" in the days following Pyongyang's second intercontinental ballistic missile launch this month, a defense official told CNN on Monday.

An ejection test examines a missile's "cold-launch system," which uses high pressure steam to propel a missile out of the launch canister into the air before its engines ignite. That helps prevent flames and heat from the engine from damaging either the submarine, submersible barge or any nearby equipment used to launch the missile.

Carried out on land at Sinpo Naval Shipyard, Sunday's ejection test is the third time this month -- and fourth this year -- that North Korea has conducted a trial of the missile component that is critical to developing submarine launch capabilities, according to the US defense official.

US detects 'highly unusual' North Korean submarine activity - CNNPolitics.com

Originally Posted by Passing Through

The United States is undertaking a trillion dollar upgrade of its nuclear arsenal.

Existing arsenals have to be maintained if only to keep them safe. That is likely to involve updating components of command and control systems. They cannot be allowed to obsolesce into a state of becoming dangerous.

^You are not really getting the big picture PT.

Think about it for a moment.

Nuclear weapons are not a credible threat coming from from western democracies as their use is abhorrent to citizens in whose names democratically elected governments act.

As long as less civilised (non-democratic) major powers such as China and Russia still retain an arsenal then the west has to maintain their arsenal.

But as a credible threat nuclear weapons are only genuinely useful to terrorists and rogue states.

You might notice that NK (a rogue state) is the only country to actually issue threats that it intends to use nuclear weapons.

The only long term goal for western countries (since their nuclear arsenals are of relatively little tactical value in the 21st century) is to aim for global reduction and elimination of nuclear weapons.

One activity that forms part of reaching the strategic goal of elimination is to stamp hard on any countries that threaten to undermine that goal by travelling in the wrong direction and instead proliferating nuclear weapons technology.

That is why it is time-up for North Korea.

The picture, both big and little, is that you're a clueless cock. There is no process under way which is going to lead to nuclear disarmament. This is pure, unadulterated fantasy on your part, though you are clearly addicted to your My Little Pony worldview so I'm sure you will come out with yet more fatuous cockcheese about the 'civilized' nations.

Originally Posted by Passing Through

There is no process under way which is going to lead to nuclear disarmament.

I am pretty confident that you are wrong here.

It would be irrational if there were no such endeavour as nuclear weapons have become a liability not a security for the west.

things are heating up very quickly. about ten days ago some general said (paraphrasing)---war on the korean peninsula is not unimaginable.

and today, a us senator said this..

There will be war between the United States and North Korea over the rogue nation's missile program if it continues to aim intercontinental ballistic missiles at America, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said President Donald Trump has told him.

"He has told me that. I believe him," the lawmaker said Tuesday on TODAY.

"If there’s going to be a war to stop [Kim Jong Un], it will be over there. If thousands die, they’re going to die over there. They’re not going to die here. And He has told me that to my face," Graham said.

"And that may be provocative, but not really. When you're president of the United States, where does your allegiance lie? To the people of the United States," the senator said.

Sen. Lindsey Graham: Trump Says War With North Korea an Option - NBC News


of course this could just be posturing, but at the very least this is quite worrisome---particularly because neither kim jong-un nor trump seem to be reasonable or rational.