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Originally Posted by blackgang
over to you BG.......
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Originally Posted by blackgang
over to you BG.......
I never said I wanted to meet you in CM or anywhere else, I am damn choosy who my friends are, they have to have at least an IQ equal to their height in feet, you don't qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b
And you inferred that all of the ones in your list were guilty, and most were either accused, arrested or whatever but were never brought to trial or served any time, and as I said, I was never proved guilty either even tho I have been arrested for a number of things. And I only listed a few as I do not think it shows intellect to repeatedly punch the quote button, seems you can not make a post without using a dozen of em.
I am advocating nothing, He is a politician and anything they do does not surprise me in the least, they are, to a fault, Lawyers and as such there is nothing they will not do and lie about doing it, they have no shame or pride, so if you expect anything different from them, then you are in for a real shock.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
I am not the one running around saying that queers are cool and deserve an even shake and are as cool as anyone else, then falling outta my chair because someone says a politico was gonna do some queer stuff, I expect it and so therefore I am not shocked and acting all righteous about it. and I don't give a fuck, and I am an American, not some limey sticking my nose in another countrys political process.
good boy.
but you missed this question....
this is what BG is referring to...Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
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Shortly after midnight on October 7, 1998, 21-year-old Shepard met McKinney and Henderson in a bar. According to McKinney, Shepard asked them for a ride home. Subsequently, Shepard was robbed, pistol whipped, tied to a fence in a remote, rural area, and left to die. McKinney and Henderson also found out his address and intended to burglarize his home. Shepard was discovered by a cyclist eighteen hours later, still alive but unconscious. Shepard suffered a fracture from the back of his head to the front of his right ear. He had severe brain stem damage, which affected his body's ability to regulate heart rate, body temperature and other vital signs. There were also about a dozen small lacerations around his head, face and neck. His injuries were deemed too severe for doctors to operate. Shepard never regained consciousness and remained on full life support. he died 5 days later.
RC, You are the one that is hanging onto this queer should be shot, but you feel that some other queer is a cool dude and it is terrible what was done to him,, you are a double standard asshole.
Yes to answer your question, I think because I am not sure what your question is, but all you queers should be shot and hung on the fence with the road kill coyotes.
and as to being despicable, it is you that is always ragging on someone else and they should be hung for their misdeeds and trying to be the defender of the oppressed, unless thats the one that you are slinging the mud about.
But as long as queers and lawyers are accepted then you should shut the fuck up.
what are you on about? i never posted anything of the kind. craig is a hypocrite, and should be shamed for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgang
i never met the kid so i can't comment on what a 'cool dude' he was, but certainly what was done to him was terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgang
while i have no doubt that you think you're making sense....you're not. lay off the sauce, and try again.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgang
i seem to be repeating myself, but....what the hell are you on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgang
If you want your opinions to be taken seriously, it's best not to say stuff like that. Really. Have a think about it....Now back into your bath chair.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgang
I'm saving this for later use ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
Well, Craig has hired Michael Vick's mouthpiece and it's not over yet. Craig might be out of Congress but it's not 'proven' that he did indeed do the 'river dance' with the cop's feet in the bathroom. After all, this cop has the worst job in the world and to get out of that, he has to move up by busting men who 'come on' ...but, who's to say it wasn't all a misunderstanding?Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
Hey Bob, if you would like, PM me your contact details and I will call you when I come to CM next month and we will meet and you will have your chance to do to me what ever you think is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Bob
Then maybe you will have a regret about meeting me.:)
^
Internet Tough Guy alert.
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The Most Feared Man on the Hill?
Larry Craig wasn't "the first on my list," the gay blogger says. And the Idaho senator, who announced his resignation Saturday, "won't be the last."
Rogers, sitting on a club chair in his Northwest Washington apartment, is basking in the attention. For three years now, he's been a feared one-man machine, "outing," he says, nearly three dozen senior political and congressional staffers, White House aides and, most damagingly, Congress members on his blog. On Capitol Hill, a typical phone call from Rogers -- "Are you gay?" he'd ask -- is "a call from Satan himself," says a former high-ranking congressional staffer whose name is on the list.
Rogers reasons that there's justice behind his tactics -- "odious," "outrageous" and "over-the-line" as they might seem to his detractors.
In Rogers's mind, if you're against gay rights in your public life and you live a secret homosexual life, all bets are off.
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In the coming months, he plans to post the names of "a few more" closeted Congress members on his blog, he says, all of them Republicans. There are 33 names on his published list, most of them men, 30 from the GOP. That fact reveals more about the Republicans, he says, than about him. Although a registered Democrat, he says he is bipartisan.
"I write about closeted people whose records are anti-gay," he says. "If you're a closeted Democrat or Republican and you don't bash gays or vote against gay rights to gain political points, I won't out you."
a few months ago senator vitter from louisiana (one of those 'family values' republicans) was outed for frequenting prosititutes. well, it is possible there might be more to this sordid tale.
i'd like to recommend that people do a google the following phrase" senator vitter diaper".
i have no idea if it's true, but if it is, i can only hope there is videotape! :)
A few years ago Senator Ted (the swimmer) Kennedy was directly implicated in the death of his mia noi.
A few years ago, Congress impeached President Cinton for lying to them.
Only second president in the history of the union to be impeached - great honor, eh?
:) you forgot about skylab!
let's keep the scandals to this century, eh?
btw, have you seen the reports that craig is reconsidering his resignation.
beautiful!
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Southpinellas: Scandal and suicide on St. Pete City CouncilQuote:
City Council Chairman John Bryan walked into City Hall just after 1 p.m. Friday and handed in his resignation letter. Less than five hours later, he was slumped over in a golf cart in the garage of his Floral City house, dead from carbon monoxide poisoning. He was 56.
Bryan's suicide came after news spread Friday that authorities were investigating allegations that he had sexually abused three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15. Ron Stuart, a spokesman for the Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Court, said the third alleged victim was a nanny for Bryan years ago and no longer lives in the area.
guess which party he belongs to? go ahead, guess.
from bill maher...
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Republicans sex scandals are getting to be like Iraqi car bombings. By the time you hear about one, there's been another. Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Bob Allen, Vitter, Craig... It's like "Clue" only the answer is always "A Republican... in the washroom... with his cock."
Sen. Craig to ask judge for 2nd chance - Yahoo! NewsQuote:
The first step in Sen. Larry Craig's attempt to wipe away his guilty plea in an airport sex sting has nothing to do with whether an undercover policeman misunderstood Craig's actions in a bathroom stall.
Instead, Wednesday's hearing is all about whether Craig's attorneys can convince Judge Charles Porter that the Idaho senator's plea was a mistake.
this whole case is sad, but it does serve the purpose of highlighting the seemingly inherent hypocrisy of republicans.
Craig vows to remain in office - Politics - MSNBC.comQuote:
MINNEAPOLIS - Idaho Sen. Larry Craig lost a bid Thursday to withdraw his guilty plea in a men’s room sex sting but defiantly vowed to finish his Senate term, prolonging a headache for Republican leaders already facing a tough political climate.
nice.
Yes?Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
And your point?:rolleyes:
should be clear....
i'm glad he's staying in office.
how about you? 55555
I really don't give a rip one way or another as the senator who would have taken his place would have been another staunch upholder of the American Way - a Republican:)Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
does he have a 'wide stance' too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
Perhaps not only a 'wide stance' but he's probably a better swimmer than Ted too.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
Craig Says He’ll Stay in Senate, Defying G.O.P. Wishes
By CARL HULSE
Published: October 4, 2007
WASHINGTON, Oct. 4 — Senator Larry E. Craig of Idaho, defying the wishes of many in his own Republican Party, said today that he would remain in the Senate through next year despite a court ruling against him in Minnesota, where he sought to rescind his guilty plea stemming from an undercover sex sting.
Shortly after a state judge denied his request to withdraw the August plea admitting to disorderly conduct, Mr. Craig said he had reversed his previously announced decision to leave the Senate if he could not get the plea thrown out and would instead serve out his third term, which expires at the end of 2008. He said he would not run for a fourth.
“When my term has expired, I will retire and not seek re-election,” said Mr. Craig, who was accused of soliciting sex from an undercover police officer in the bathroom of the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport in early June. “I hope this provides the certainty Idaho needs and deserves.”
His decision was a major disappointment to Republican leaders, who had hoped Mr. Craig would make good on his initial pledge and spare them from the potential political liability of having a senior lawmaker who has become a national punch line.
His decision came as Senator Pete V. Domenici, the longtime New Mexico Republican, announced he would retire at the end of his term in January 2009, creating yet another opportunity for Democrats who already have their eyes on three other Senate vacancies that are opening up. Republicans are unlikely to lose Idaho’s Senate seat but are worried Mr. Craig could tarnish the party’s overall reputation.
Senator John Ensign of Nevada, chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, demanded that Mr. Craig keep his initial pledge and leave the Senate.
“The type of behavior we are talking about here is not exactly something that I think a senator should be engaged in,” said Mr. Ensign, who again raised the possibility of public ethics committee hearings into whether Mr. Craig brought discredit on the Senate, which could be grounds for action against him.
The leaders of the ethics panel said today that a complaint filed against Mr. Craig by the Republican leadership in August, when the news of his guilty plea became public, remained an open case, given his decision to remain in office.
Other Republicans stopped short of calling on Mr. Craig to give up his seat, but they were clearly dismayed that he would stay in office, citing the distraction his presence could provide as well as the potential harm to the party and the Senate.
“I can’t think of anything good about it,” said Senator Saxby Chambliss, Republican of Georgia.
“You don’t want to know what I really feel,” said Senator Jim DeMint, Republican of South Carolina.
Mr. Craig had his defenders among the Republicans, including Senators Michael Crapo, also of Idaho, and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, both of whom said Mr. Craig was within his rights to remain and try to clear his name.
“Senator Craig is entitled to make his decision and I respect it,” Mr. Specter said. “Disorderly conduct is not moral turpitude and it is no basis for leaving the Senate.”
Mr. Crapo, a friend and ally on state issues, said he strongly supported Mr. Craig. “I look forward to working with him in the Senate as he resolves his legal battles,” said Mr. Crapo.
If Mr. Craig sticks to his plan, he could be unseated before his term expires only if he were expelled by his fellow senators. Expulsion requires a two-thirds majority and has been used to remove just 15 senators since 1789, according to the Senate Web site. Ten of the 15 were expelled because they were sympathetic to the Confederacy during the Civil War.
After the news of Mr. Craig’s plea was first disclosed on Aug. 27, Senate Republicans leaned heavily on Mr. Craig to leave, concluding that his acknowledged offense disqualified him from remaining. Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, called it unforgivable and the party ousted Mr. Craig, a popular lawmaker at home before this episode, from his committee leadership slots.
Republicans were also eager to quickly dispose of a scandal after Senator David Vitter of
Louisiana acknowledged his involvement with an escort service under police investigation for prostitution, and in light of the problems of Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska, the longest serving Republican senator in history, who is under investigation in a federal corruption inquiry.
Mr. Craig he announced on Sept. 1 that he intended to resign at the end of the month, touching off speculation about his successor. Today, Gov. Butch Otter of Idaho let it be known that he had settled on a replacement if Mr. Craig stepped aside, but did not say who that would be.
But in recent weeks, it became clear that Mr. Craig was hoping to stay in the Senate. To the dismay of many of his colleagues, he returned to work on Sept. 18 after a two-week absence and, after an initial flurry of attention, began going about his business. At a private luncheon for Senate spouses last week, Mr. Craig’s wife, Suzanne, told friends he was hoping to finish out his term, according to one senior lawmaker.
“As I continued to work for Idaho over the past three weeks here in the Senate, I have seen that it is possible for me to work here effectively,” Mr. Craig said in his statement, saying that he believed he could do more for his state than an interim replacement.
Mr. Craig has been treated politely but coolly by his colleagues since his return, with many of them assuming he would leave if the court rejected his effort to withdraw his plea, which was considered likely from the beginning.
Republicans unhappy with Mr. Craig said they had little recourse except for the ethics inquiry, but it was clear the case was going to be at least a temporary distraction. Rather than face a barrage of questions about Mr. Craig, the leadership canceled a news conference this afternoon that was to lay out the party position on children’s health care. And Mr. Craig, who was being sought by news organizations, did not go to the Senate floor to vote.
In dismissing Mr. Craig’s effort, Judge Charles A. Porter Jr. ruled in Hennepin District Court in Minnesota that the senator knowingly admitted to his offense even though Mr. Craig said later he acted too rashly since he was worried about a state newspaper investigation into reports of homosexual conduct.
“The defendant, a career politician with a college education, is of, at least, above-average intelligence,” Judge Porter wrote in a ruling issued earlier this afternoon. “He knew what he was saying, reading and signing.”
Craig Says He’ll Stay in Senate, Defying G.O.P. Wishes - New York Times
^Saxby Charlis?
Michael Crapo???
Butch Otter??????????????????
Please tell me you made those names up, they can't possibly be real.
are you referring to last month's corruption allegations against AK sen. ted stevens?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
of course not, you're going back nearly 5 decades to chappaquidick (sp?).
anyway, craig the closeted hypocrite and his 'wide stance' are going to be another tough election issue for republicans--particularly in the senate.
whatever happened to rove's permanent republican majority?