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    As the Polish PM said: Europe, get up off your knees. Get out of your lethargy, otherwise you will be crying every day for your children.

    Wasted on enlightened people that are way too civilised to survive modern times.

    Whatcha think, Neverna, overlooked something?

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    Personally speaking , if I were a Yemeni, a Waziri or an Afghani, or a Syrian, or an Iraqi whose family had been killed by drone attacks or by fucking incompetent septic pilots, I rather think I would it make my life's work to reciprocate any way I knew how.
    When the British Paras murdered those unarmed 14 men and boys and wounded 14 others on that Sunday afternoon in 1972 they recruited several thousand Catholics to the cause of nationalism within a month and the Troubles were consigned as a consequence into a vale of tears that would last another fucking 27 years.

    Cause and effect, Tax, cause and effect.

    If you go shredding innocent men, women and children with military ordnance every other fucking month and expect to get away with it because you claim it was a fucking accident then you're a fucking idiot.

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    How many innocent civilians were killed by allied aircrew in WW2? Did any of those family members that survived seek to make attacks on the perpetrators homeland after the war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
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    Just in case what's happening in Manchester is still of any interest to anyone on this thread. Just now, people are being evacuated from the Boscombe Street area of Moss Side. Police have closed off the area and one man was seen being led away.
    Once again as the crazed old men are drowning out the actual news.


    A bomb disposal van has just arrived at Boscombe Street. Two more Libyans were arrested this morning in Cheetham Hill.
    How do you know, been there, or did you see it on the Tv in wetherspoons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    How many innocent civilians were killed by allied aircrew in WW2? Did any of those family members that survived seek to make attacks on the perpetrators homeland after the war?
    Exactly, there comes a point when people are sick of war and want peace even if it means some compromises.

    The anti Muslim crusaders on this thread have never compromised on anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    How many innocent civilians were killed by allied aircrew in WW2? Did any of those family members that survived seek to make attacks on the perpetrators homeland after the war?
    No but then they were not Muslims

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    When the British Paras murdered those unarmed 14 men and boys and wounded 14 others on that Sunday afternoon in 1972
    ^
    Another piece of bullshit from Thegent.

    The Provisional IRA deliberately provoked troops during the civil rights march on Bloody Sunday in an attempt to win support for their violent tactics, the daughter of a former Sinn Fein vice-president said yesterday.

    Deirdre McNamara has remained silent for almost three decades about the conversation she had with her father, Derry Kelleher, in which he described the Provisionals' strategy of seeking a united Ireland by force.

    Ms McNamara claims her attempts to bring this knowledge to the attention of Lord Saville's inquiry on Bloody Sunday met with no response.

    The IRA has always maintained that it never fired upon paratroopers when they entered the Bogside in Londonderry in 1972 and shot dead 13 demonstrators.

    But Ms McNamara's recollection of her father's remarks appears to support the evidence of a number of soldiers at the Bloody Sunday inquiry that they started shooting only after coming under fire.




    She says he told her that the IRA "planned the opportunity" to provoke the Paras to fire into a mainly unarmed crowd and win a major propaganda coup.
    Ms McNamara, a homeopathic doctor living in New York, contacted the Bloody Sunday inquiry almost three years ago and sent a letter to the British Consulate in New York saying she had "important information". But the inquiry appears not to have acted on her approach.
    In her first interview on the subject, Ms McNamara told The Telegraph about the conversation with her father, who was Official Sinn Fein's vice-president from 1971-72, at their home in Co Wicklow, in the Irish Republic.
    "My father said that the Provies had deliberately used the civil rights march in Derry as a staging ground to escalate the tensions in Northern Ireland to provoke violence," she said. "It was used to launch their campaign of violence and cement their standing in the republican community divided by those for and against military action. He gave me to understand that they had provoked the violence.
    "It is consistent with the IRA's ethos of misinformation that they set up the British Army with a campaign of lies and rumours. I knew the significance of what he was saying but I was trying to run away from it all at that time.
    "I am aware that I am taking a great risk in speaking out against those psychos who maim children in the name of freedom."
    Ms McNamara fell out with her family and moved in her twenties to New York, where she worked as an actress.
    She said her father, who died two years ago, was trying to recruit her into the Officials by saying the Provisionals were bent on violence.
    The split within the IRA happened in late 1969. The Provisionals were impatient to eject the British using violence but the Officials, while still using violence, were becoming more drawn to a political path.
    By the end of 1972 the Provisionals became a focal point of young republicans, with Bloody Sunday a major factor in providing recruits, leaving the way open to carry on its murderous campaign. Ms McNamara, who believes her father was in Londonderry on Bloody Sunday and knew Martin McGuinness, then the Provisionals' second in command, says she gave careful thought on whether to come forward because of fears for her own and her children's lives. She also has several relatives in the IRA.
    "I thought, would anyone believe me and would I be in danger by coming forward? I worry because I have children."
    It remains unclear whether the Bloody Sunday team will take a statement from her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    How many innocent civilians were killed by allied aircrew in WW2? Did any of those family members that survived seek to make attacks on the perpetrators homeland after the war?
    Don't be so fucking asinine. It was total war and there were no innocents. Killing Germans was the aim, whether they were unborn foetuses, children , men, women, servicemen or not, it didn't matter, the aim was to win and to kill in the process.

    Drawing an analogy between then and now seeking some fucking moral equivalence is just imbecilic.

    In what sense are the Coalition forces and Russia now fighting for their survival against a foe having declared war????

    Honestly, there is no excuse for such sloppy thinking.

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    ^

    And further more,

    If Hitler was not such an Anal coont with one ball bag and a bad attitude then the Septic fukers would have not needed to go in hard and fuk him up.

    Same as when they Nuked fuk out of the little Jap bastards, they deserved it Eh.

    Unfortunately Civilians get caught up in war but blame it on the aggressor not the agreesee.

    The world is fooked, just hang loose in BKK and have a nice time.

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    They attack us, so we attack them, who in return attack us for revenge. A never ending wheel of death. Cynical? But wait...there's more!

    We sell weapons to Saudi who in return sell on to ISIS. ISIS attack us and we sell more weapons to the Saudis in the vein hope our 'friends' will use them to fight ISIS. Instead, they sell them on again. And...ISIS attack us again...

    It seems that these attacks are good money for Western governments , Middle Eastern governments and ISIS themselves. Never trust politicians of any type- they are parasites,cronies and all around bad eggs. Fvck em all!

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    Cause and effect, Tax, cause and effect.

    I rather think I would it make my life's work to reciprocate any way I knew how.
    so would i. but that is not what they are doing. it is most convenient for some to say it is, it fits their rather silly utopian vision of a world without conflict where differences are settled with a smile and a handshake, but we all know human beings dont work like that, they never have, especially those driven by a hysterical all consuming and extremely violent ideology with its roots in religion. cf. crusades, inquisition, holocaust, etc.etc.etc.

    but the reality when faced with ideological driven hate on home ground is that it is not possible to negotiate with it, to temper it, or to compromise with it. one either accepts it and submits or one fights it. it doesnt matter what has caused it, that could stop tomorrow but terrorism wont. why on earth was sweden attacked by bombers, germany too. those countries have opened their doors wide to take in the displaced.

    it has very little to do with coalition acts in syria/iraq etc, thats just a convenient tag to hang the blame on.

    its driven solely by extreme islam and its promotion to easily led people who have been primed for this by being marinated in religion since the day they were born, and until the authorities know who is coming in and out of their countries, and what is being preached and by whom in the mosques and back rooms of manchester and birmingham, and are free to confront it head on.

    conversing with orthodox moderate muslims in the uk about their religion is like listening to a 16th century christian giving a discourse on heresy. islam is their life, from the minute they wake up to the minute they go to sleep. find the right one, fill his head with extreme interpretations of a few of the more meaty hadiths and before you know it he's eyes are on fire and he's down b and q buying three pounds of bolts, a litre of peroxide and a few ever readys.

    give the police a freer hand to operate, shut the human rights brigade up for a few months ( human rights legislation was never meant to protect scum anyway) and empower a few police and politicians to actually talk about islam and terrorism in the same breath.

    for fucks sake, we should get up off our knees and stop sucking their cocks.

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    Too right, Mosques need closing that have ever had links to terrorists, brainwashing madras so called Schools need a re think and we need to keep radical preachers out and kick out the ones here as well as zero tolerance for sharia. Candles and having 'thoughts are with the families' is not going to be enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    it has very little to do with coalition acts in syria/iraq etc, thats just a convenient tag to hang the blame on.
    really?

    then why weren't muslim brits blowing up people in the 90s (before the us/uk invasion of iraq)?

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    have the police turn up late , break a few heads, show some serious intent and the moderate muslim community will be turning in their miscreants quicker than a rochdale taxi driver can hoist his keks up after a tap on his window whilst being blown by a bit of white skinned haram.

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    Some bad bad people out there, Thailand is very safe compared to many places.
    Last edited by Thedogsbollix; 28-05-2017 at 04:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    it has very little to do with coalition acts in syria/iraq etc, thats just a convenient tag to hang the blame on.
    really?

    then why weren't muslim brits blowing up people in the 90s (before the us/uk invasion of iraq)?
    I remember the first suicide bomber attack in 1983 when a truck drove into the US marine barracks in Beruit Lebanon.

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    Suicide bombings, car jacking, plane jacking and blowing shit up is so normal now it's boring.

    Car accidents and the daily murders in Thailand are far more entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    it has very little to do with coalition acts in syria/iraq etc, thats just a convenient tag to hang the blame on.
    really?

    then why weren't muslim brits blowing up people in the 90s (before the us/uk invasion of iraq)?
    You mean before Blair let so many of the bastards in?

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    The Nasty Poms and that mad mole Merkle will go down in history for fucking up their country.

    They let all the refugee trash in willy nilly, come one come all.

    So now we have an ongoing tide of the radical Muslim waging war on a piss weak country who let them walk in unhindered.

    Oh well, Tough shit that eh.
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    Why would any country allow so many immigrants in from other countries when all they do is drive unemployment up for the nationals and cause problems? Yes, a small percentage are radicals, but that percentage would be zero if none were allowed to come in the first place.

    When will governments figure out what is obvious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Why would any country allow so many immigrants in from other countries when all they do is drive unemployment up for the nationals
    Because the cornerstone of capitalism is cheap labour.

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    I predict another all night clean up for Mods tonight.

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    Get rid of muzzies.

    Islam is a cancer.

    they should live with their own.

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    The mods should have left last night's clean up in Speaker's Corner where they originally shifted it to, instead of turfing it into the doghouse shortly after.

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    Let's go back to the Stone age then...
    Where do we start?
    Hmmm....

    Nuke the middle East for a kick off.
    Anyone who can not trace their blood line back to 5000BC shall be interned and sent to Scotland the new prison camp.
    Anyone left over?
    Problem sorted

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