Normally there wold be evidence of a crime, prior to even beginning an investigation.
This Mueller team investigation's premise was 'butt-hurt' over the loss of Hillary Clinton.
Two years and still no crimes by Trump's election campaign.
Right now the 'investigation' has become a search for a crime.
The Manafort prosecution is just about trying to 'flip' Manafort on Trump.
Mueller is fishing
Cohen crimes are old tax irregularities, and another effort to 'flip' Trump's personal lawyer against him.
They got Cohen to 'flip'.
The only problem is; to 'impeach' Trump a crime has to be committed while Trump was President. Of which is none. no such crime exists.
The funny part of all this is how this will all end up helping Trump. Just like the Kenneth Starr investigation helped Bill Clinton in the end.
Only this time Trump is much smarter and isn't going to let Mueller catch him in a petty lie.
The Starr investigation fucked the rethug fuckwits for a decade.
You would think the dim dems would have learned from the Republican fuckup!
More nails in the corrupt Don's coffin.
Mueller May Have Information on Trump's Tax Returns
Robert Mueller may be closing in on Donald Trump's undisclosed tax returns, George W. Bush's former ethics attorney Richard Painter says.
In an interview with MSNBC's Brian Williams during a recent segment on The 11th Hour, Painter said that the president must be worried as an immunity deal was reported to be extended to the Trump Organization's chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg.
While the immunity deal doesn't necessarily mean direct trouble for Trump, it resulted in prosecutors investigating the president's former personal lawyer Michael Cohen getting information under oath from someone deeply involved in Trump's business.
"Now we have the chief financial officer of the Trump Organization turning state’s evidence," Painter told Williams on Friday. "I have to say that every white-collar criminal defense lawyer knows when the chief financial officer turns state’s evidence, everyone in the executive suite is in a lot of trouble because the chief financial officer knows exactly where the money is coming and going.”
Painter continued, saying that every time Mueller gets "anywhere near Donald Trump's money, Donald Trump starts threatening to fire Bob Mueller."
"It appears that they’re closing in on the basic financial structure of the Trump Organization. Perhaps the reasons why he’s not disclosing his tax returns. And what we may find there is really quite ugly," the ethics attorney added.
Mueller May Have Information on Trump's Tax Returns
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Idiot.
What prosecuter will go "If you tell me something you've done naughty, I'll give you immunity."
It's more like, "We've got you done for this crime. Here's the evidence. You'll go to court and likely be convicted. Now, we've got questions about your associates and we know you've got the answers. Tell us what we want to know or revisit the fact you're going to be prosecuted for ............"
"I was a good student. I comprehend very well, OK, better than I think almost anybody," - President Trump comparing his legal knowledge to a Federal judge.
When you lie with dogs you get the fleas...
"“While not the worst of the bunch, neither Comey nor Mueller deserve their Jimmy Stewart ‘G-man’ reputations for absolute integrity but have merely been, along the lines of George ‘Slam Dunk’ Tenet, capable and flexible politicized sycophants to power, that enmeshed them in numerous wrongful abuses of power along with presiding over plain official incompetence. It’s sad that political partisanship is so blinding and that so few people remember the actual sordid history.”" ~ Coleen Rowley
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/0...thical-heroes/
A misleading article which does not tell the complete story of the events it cites. Comey was deputy AG at the time and reported to John Ashcroft. The attorney general was Antonio Gonzalez. Comey argued strongly against the definitions of torture that the administration sought approval for. He threatened to resign because of his opposition to Cheney and the White House's stand on the issue. Eventually he was overruled on the issue.
I hope Trump is going to fire Mueller, if he can, just to spice up that whole silly affair
In that time period Ashcroft was still AG. Gonzalez became AG in Feb. 2005.
The Rowley quote I used in post #5387 was not from that link. Here's what she said(very similar to the quote I used) on Mueller in that specific link(my emphasis):Coleen Rowley, a retired FBI special agent and division legal counsel whose May 2002 memo to then-FBI Director Robert Mueller exposed some of the FBI’s pre-9/11 failures, was named one of TIME magazine’s “Persons of the Year” in 2002. Her 2003 letter to Robert Mueller in opposition to launching the Iraq War is archived in full text on the NYT
Neither Comey nor Mueller — who are reported to be “joined at the hip” — deserve their current lionization among politicians and mainstream media. Instead of Jimmy Stewart-like “G-men” with reputations for principled integrity, the two close confidants and collaborators merely proved themselves, along with former CIA Director George “Slam Dunk” Tenet, reliably politicized sycophants, enmeshing themselves in a series of wrongful abuses of power along with official incompetence.
It seems clear that based on his history and close “partnership” with Comey, called “one of the closest working relationships the top ranks of the Justice Department have ever seen,” Mueller was chosen as Special Counsel not because he has integrity but because he will do what the powerful want him to do.
Mueller didn’t speak the truth about a war he knew to be unjustified. He didn’t speak out against torture. He didn’t speak out against unconstitutional surveillance. And he didn’t tell the truth about 9/11. He is just “their man.”
re: "He is just "their man"" ...as is Trump IMHO.
Last edited by SKkin; 27-08-2018 at 03:45 PM.
of course Mueller is being used by a greater power to either get Trump or clean up his entourage so they can fully control Trump for the next 8 years
Both of course,
Seems this went unnoticed by many....
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...p-game-changer
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it was already discussed on the trump thread.
Got to admit, this Bruce Ohr kerfuffle has got me scratching my head. It's got the lemmings on Fox News on fire with renewed attacks on Mueller. They seem to be linking Ohr to Christopher Steele to Ohr's wife (confused). They are determined to make the Steele dossier the genesis of the FBI investigation into the Trump campaign when the facts point to Papadopoulos and Page.
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