Thread: Mueller's Russian Interference investigation

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by SKkin

Speaking of bs...as in the Russian hack.

July 5, 2016: In the early evening, Eastern Daylight Time, someone working in the EDT time zone with a computer directly connected to the DNC server or DNC Local Area Network, copied 1,976 MegaBytes of data in 87 seconds onto an external storage device. That speed is many times faster than what is physically possible with a hack.

It thus appears that the purported “hack” of the DNC by Guccifer 2.0 (the self-proclaimed WikiLeaks source) was not a hack by Russia or anyone else, but was rather a copy of DNC data onto an external storage device. Moreover, the forensics performed on the metadata reveal there was a subsequent synthetic insertion – a cut-and-paste job using a Russian template, with the clear aim of attributing the data to a “Russian hack.” This was all performed in the East Coast time zone.

From:

Intel Vets Challenge ‘Russia Hack’ Evidence July 24, 2017
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/2...hack-evidence/

Why is this here? This is just more trash regarding Hillary Clinton it has nothing to do with Trump or his Russian ties.

It's supposed to be a post saying that the DNC weren't hacked, based on some anonymous source who's written a blog post that's so full of holes it's like swiss cheese.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Can somebody enlighten me which of them has ever brought a breakthrough?

Err, Watergate, Iran-Contra...

You and your pesky facts.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Can somebody enlighten me which of them has ever brought a breakthrough?

Err, Watergate, Iran-Contra...

You and your pesky facts.

What everybody knew already, did it need a Congressional Hearing?
(under oath???)

There are never lies, just mistakes...

Broadcast to the American people from the Oval Office. Reagan promises to tell the nation the truth regarding the Iran-Contra scandal and admits to making mistakes.

President Ronald Reagan - Address on Iran-Contra

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Can somebody enlighten me which of them has ever brought a breakthrough?

Err, Watergate, Iran-Contra...

You and your pesky facts.

What everybody knew already, did it need a Congressional Hearing?
(under oath???)

There are never lies, just mistakes...

Broadcast to the American people from the Oval Office. Reagan promises to tell the nation the truth regarding the Iran-Contra scandal and admits to making mistakes.

President Ronald Reagan - Address on Iran-Contra

Yeah, Nixon tried fronting that shit as well.

The fact is laws were broken and people went to jail - correction: Should have gone to jail. Mostly thanks to good reporting and proper investigations.

Reagan should have been one of them.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

What everybody knew already, did it need a Congressional Hearing?
(under oath???)

Nice pivot you dimwit.

The Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday night issued a subpoena to compel for Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort’s presence at a public hearing Wednesday. “Mr. Manafort, through his attorney, said that he would be willing to provide only a single transcribed interview to Congress, which would not be available to the Judiciary Committee members or staff,” Senators Chuck Grassley and Dianne Feinstein said in a statement. Lawyers for Manafort had been negotiating to prevent him from testifying in public, but those talks appear to have broken down. Grassley and Feinstein said Manafort could still skirt a public hearing “if he would be willing to agree to production of documents and a transcribed interview.”

Judiciary Committee Issues Subpoena for Paul Manafort - The Daily Beast

when kislyak arrives for his debriefing at the kremlin, he and putin are going to laugh so hard they'll probably we their pants.

kushner forgot meetings, doesn't remember meeting people, didn't complete national security forms correctly, etc...

the fundamental question that needs to be asked....what in his past experience qualified him to even be in a position to forget, not remember, and not complete all of these very important meetings, people and forms?

hint: nothing.


except that he's trump's son-in-law.

trump has been crushing AG session the last few days.

calling him "weak" and "besieged" and that he wouldn't have nominated him if he could do it all again.

remember, this is HIS attorney general....but he's in full on attack mode.

just one man's opinion, but it seems clear that he's trying shame sessions into resigning so that he can say, "oh, i didn't fire him....he resigned".

Trump's talking about Giuliani as a replacement for Sessions.

Originally Posted by raycarey

just one man's opinion, but it seems clear that he's trying shame sessions into resigning so that he can say, "oh, i didn't fire him....he resigned".

Defo. He has already fired on person in connection with 'that Russian thing' so probably doesn't want to be seen to be firing a second over it as well (although that's basically exactly what he's doing).

Sessions was one of (if not the) first to endorse Trump.

Salient lesson in there for others that have also on how Trump treats those no longer useful to him.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Do you have a link?

Seems like it'd be a real stupid move for Giuliani...or anybody for that matter.

https://www.axios.com/exclusive-trum...464579234.html

CNN story says not true. Doesn't sound as though Giuliani is siding with Trump in regards to Sessions.



Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Monday swatted away a report that he is a contender to replace Attorney General Jeff Sessions, and said Sessions made the right decision to recuse himself from the Russia investigation.

Giuliani said there is no truth to a report by Axios that said Trump has recently raised the possibility of tapping Giuliani to replace Sessions, whom the President referred to as "beleaguered" on Monday, days after publicly rebuking Sessions for recusing himself from the federal investigation into Russian election meddling in the 2016 campaign.

more Giuliani: Sessions 'made the right decision' to recuse - CNNPolitics.com

If Sessions was fired does anyone believe he could get a new nominee confirmed by the Senate? The only way he could do it is through a recess appointment. If he did he would ignite a crisis.

Trump doesn't have support for getting rid of Sessions from his 'base' it seems. Breitbart is now attacking him. WOW.


Trump's attack on Sessions over Clinton prosecution highlights his own weak stance

President Trump’s decision Tuesday to attack Attorney General Jeff Sessions over Sessions’ “position” on Hillary Clinton’s various scandals only serves to highlight Trump’s own hypocrisy on the issue — and is likely to fuel concerns from his base who see Sessions at the best hope to fulfill Trump’s immigration policies.

more Trump?s Attack on Sessions over Clinton Prosecution Highlights His Own 'Weak' Stance

Originally Posted by Humbert

If Sessions was fired does anyone believe he could get a new nominee confirmed by the Senate?

Who would take the job at this point. Anybody with any integrity would hang up when they got the call.

Originally Posted by fred flintstone

Anybody with any integrity would hang up when they got the call.

I don't think integrity is high on Trump's list of requirements. Fealty is the only thing that matters to him.

Originally Posted by fred flintstone

Who would take the job at this point. Anybody with any integrity would hang up when they got the call.

...Someone dialed 1-800-ARSE-LICKER??

^
reminds me of this fantastic photo..

great article on wired today about this whole mess...

THE KNOWN UNKNOWNS SWIRLING AROUND THE TRUMP-RUSSIA SCANDAL

1. What was said on the Kislyak intercepts?

2. Are there intercepts discussing the Kislyak “backchannel” discussion?

8. What was the content (and purpose) of the meeting between Jared Kushner and the head of Russia’s intelligence-linked development bank?

10. What more does the US government know about Jeff Sessions’ meetings with the Russian ambassador?

11. Who influenced the change of the GOP platform, and why?

12. Why was Oleg Erovinkin murdered?

15. What was said during the private dinner conversation at the G20 meeting between Putin and Trump—and are there tapes?

there are a total of 15 with some background info, but the above are the questions i would really like to know the answers to.


highly recommended article.


https://www.wired.com/story/the-know...ussia-scandal/

with all the other scandals and failures engulfing trump and his administration, this seemed to slip through the cracks....


ivanka essentially lawyered up on tuesday.

https://www.axios.com/ivanka-trump-h...465316181.html

Damning indeed.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...uction-justice

It turns out if Trump did draft a knowingly false statement for his son it could be considered obstruction of justice.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by fred flintstone

Anybody with any integrity would hang up when they got the call.

I don't think integrity is high on Trump's list of requirements. Fealty is the only thing that matters to him.

"LOYALTY"!!!!! to him!!!!!!!! not integrity......
and you can be sure that he won't be loyal to you,....