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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
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    If you take that article for its word, the firing of Manafort had more to do with the "low energy" style he had along with not really being a good fit for the job. He also did not warm up to Trump and had opposing views to what Trump was trying to convey to voters.
    The Ukraine thing was not the sole reason Manafort was fired, in my opinion. It was his inability to do the job. I have fired many during my career for the same cause and always explained to the individual that they were not a good fit which would hinder their success.
    He was fired on the same day of the revelations of his payments and ties to the Ukraine were revealed. Yeah, it just wasn't a good fit.

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    Alex Jones .. CIA Agent .... Jewish Spy ... Now Russian Agent
    Roger Stone a Russian Supporter/Agent
    Ron Paul now a Russian Supporter/Agent

    Sad bunch of muppets aren't you!

    What was that the Bush said? You're either with us blah blah blah.

    You're scared, I know. And what pussified person wouldn't be? But batting for what you think is the winning team isn't going to secure your life!
    You bullied, you laughed, you lied, you lost!

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    ^ You forgot one...

    Jesus Jones a Russian Supporter/Agent

    CIA is watching you on your microwave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Alex Jones .. CIA Agent .... Jewish Spy ... Now Russian Agent
    Roger Stone a Russian Supporter/Agent
    Ron Paul now a Russian Supporter/Agent
    Sad bunch of muppets aren't you!
    What was that the Bush said? You're either with us blah blah blah.
    You're scared, I know. And what pussified person wouldn't be? But batting for what you think is the winning team isn't going to secure your life!
    Bwaaaawaaaa! All you meanies who don't like Trump are gonna get it!

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    Congress no longer has the credibility to independently tackle a probe of Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and President Trump and his associates' ties to Moscow, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Wednesday.


    "It's a bizarre situation, and what I think, the reason why I'm calling for this select committee or a special committee, is I think that this back-and-forth and what the American people have found out so far that no longer does the Congress have credibility to handle this alone," McCain told MSNBC's Greta Van Susteren. "And I don't say that lightly."


    McCain: Congress doesn't have 'credibility' to handle Russia probes | TheHill



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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said

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    ^ He is 100% correct in this instance.

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    Mole is the word I was looking for. It seems there is a mole on the investigation committee.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    The top Democrat on one of the congressional committees investigating ties between Donald Trump and Russia has raised “grave doubt” over the viability of the inquiry after its Republican chairman shared information with the White House and not their committee colleagues.

    In the latest wild development surrounding the Russia inquiry that has created an air of scandal around Trump, Democrat Adam Schiff effectively called his GOP counterpart, Devin Nunes, a proxy for the White House, questioning his conduct.

    “These actions raise enormous doubt about whether the committee can do its work,” Schiff said late Wednesday afternoon after speaking with Nunes, his fellow Californian, before telling MSNBC that evidence tying Trump to Russia now appeared “more than circumstantial”.


    Two days after testimony from the directors of the FBI and NSA that dismissed any factual basis to Trump’s 4 March claim that Barack Obama had him placed under surveillance, Nunes publicly stated he was “alarmed” to learn that the intelligence agencies may have “incidentally” collected communications from Trump and his associates.

    Nunes, who served on Trump’s national security transition team, said the surveillance “appears to be all legally collected” and masked the identities of Americans, but did so in such a way that Nunes could hazard a guess as to whom the intercepted communications discussed. Nunes added that the alleged intercepts did not actually concern Russia.

    “Details about persons associated with the incoming administration, details with little apparent foreign intelligence value were widely disseminated in intelligence community reporting,” said Nunes, who has shifted the focus of the inquiry onto leaks that Trump blames on the intelligence agencies.

    Nunes went to the White House to brief the president, who seized on the chairman’s comments as vindication, even though there is little evidence even in Nunes’s vague and often conditional remarks that they revive Trump’s claim that Obama had Trump Tower wiretapped.


    “I somewhat do. I must tell you I somewhat do. I very much appreciated the fact that they found what they found, I somewhat do,” Trump said Wednesday afternoon.

    Nunes took whatever material he had acquired to Trump before sharing it with the committee – a decision that represented nearly a final straw for Schiff, who called for an independent commission to investigate ties between Trump and Russia.

    In language that stripped away any pretense of cordiality remaining on the committee, Schiff said Nunes would have to decide whether to helm a credible inquiry or whether to operate as a White House adjunct, complicit in what Schiff intimated was a “campaign by the White House to deflect from the [FBI] director’s testimony”.

    Asked if Schiff was considering pulling out of the inquiry, Schiff said he would have to “analyze what this development means”, suggesting a potential Democratic departure from one of the most internationally watched congressional investigations in recent history.

    “If you have a chairman who is interacting with the White House, sharing information with the White House, when the people around the White House are the subject of the investigation and doing it before sharing it with the committee, it puts a profound doubt over whether that can be done credibly,” Schiff said.

    Schiff reiterated that from what he had gleaned from his conversation with Nunes, “there is still no evidence that the president was wiretapped by his predecessor”.

    Without receiving the actual intercept, Schiff said, it was “impossible” to evaluate the merits of Nunes’s claims.

    Republicans in the House and Senate continue to resist Democratic demands for an independent commission modeled on the one comprised of retired eminences from both parties that investigated the 9/11 attacks. Schiff said he would raise the issue again with House speaker Paul Ryan, a Republican.


    Incidental collection occurs when a communications intercept aimed at a foreign spy or proxy captures either an American in conversation with that foreign operative or discusses information about an American. An inevitability in an age of mass surveillance, and frequent even in targeted surveillance, the NSA has procedures in place to mask Americans’ identity, but Edward Snowden’s revelations have raised grave doubts about their robustness.

    Given Nunes’s concerns about leaks of classified information, some questioned whether Nunes himself had confirmed the existence of a classified intercept under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

    “Representative Nunes’s statements would appear to reveal classified information, which is a serious concern. With regard to the substance of his claims, I have no idea what he is talking about,” said Senator Ron Wyden, a Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee, which is also investigating the Trump-Russia question.

    The House committee is schedule to meet on 28 March to hear testimony on the Trump-Russia allegations from former director of national intelligence James Clapper and former CIA director John Brennan.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ee-white-house

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    ^ He is 100% correct in this instance.
    Whose investigation would you believe? Surely not a bribable politician.

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    McCain is a sore loser, what a whack job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    The top Democrat on one of the congressional committees investigating ties between Donald Trump and Russia has raised “grave doubt” over the viability of the inquiry after its Republican chairman shared information with the White House and not their committee colleagues.
    Supposedly bipartisan committee investigations sabotaged by Republicans leaks?

    Say it isn't so, that's really out of character, isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Supposedly bipartisan committee investigations sabotaged by Republicans leaks?
    I would think that a committee chairman should report to his committee first then inform the president. Most would think that's against some rules somewhere if he tells the president the evidence coming out against him before the commitee hears it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    I would think that a committee chairman should report to his committee first then inform the president
    Other committee members agree.

    He won't but if Trump has nothing to hide as claimed he needs to call for a special independent commitee. Best way to stop all the Russian connection stuff and move on to the health care bill which politically is of greater importance to his and Republican future.

    McCain calling for one will go no where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Supposedly bipartisan committee investigations sabotaged by Republicans leaks?
    I would think that a committee chairman should report to his committee first then inform the president. Most would think that's against some rules somewhere if he tells the president the evidence coming out against him before the commitee hears it.
    I was actually joking. If that stupid fat fuck didn't leak it, Gowdy definitely would have.

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    The dog and pony show continues.



    Schiff: New evidence shows possible Trump-Russia collusion

    The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee is claiming that he has been presented with new information on collusion between associates of President Donald Trump and Russia that would merit a grand jury investigation.

    Rep. Adam Schiff told CNN Thursday that he had seen additional evidence, but would not specify what it was.

    "We continue to get new information that, I think, paints a more complete picture of at least what we know at the outset of our investigation," Schiff said.

    Asked to explain his comments earlier in the week when he said there was more than just "circumstantial evidence of collusion," Schiff said, "I do think that it's appropriate to say that it's the kind of evidence that you would submit to a grand jury at the beginning of an investigation.

    "It's not the kind of evidence that you take to a trial jury when you're trying to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt. But we're at the beginning of an investigation, and given the gravity of the subject matter, I think that the evidence certainly warrants us doing a thorough investigation."

    The California Democrat said it was "baffling" that his Republican counterpart on the committee, Rep. Devin Nunes, would not rule out that the information he disclosed Wednesday -- the California Republican said communications of Trump and his associates may have been collected by intelligence agencies -- came from the White House.

    Nunes' disclosure -- and decision to speak to the press and White House before informing the Democrats on the Intelligence Committee -- infuriated Democrats and led him to apologize earlier Thursday, according to Rep. Jackie Speier, D-California.

    Other Democrats have said Nunes' actions mean he can't conduct an impartial investigation into potential Trump-Russia ties.

    Schiff, however, told CNN that Democrats won't boycott the investigation, saying if they don't participate, "there isn't going to be an investigation in the House."

    Nunes later told CNN he wasn't aware of Schiff's new evidence. Nunes again declined to reveal his sources for his claim -- not even to Schiff, the California Republican said.

    The tension on the Intelligence Committee comes a day after CNN reported that the FBI has information that may indicate associates of Trump communicated with suspected Russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign, according to US officials.

    The FBI is now reviewing that information, which includes human intelligence, travel, business and phone records and accounts of in-person meetings, according to those US officials. The information is raising the suspicions of FBI counterintelligence investigators that the coordination may have taken place, though officials cautioned that the information was not conclusive and that the investigation is ongoing.

    White House press secretary Sean Spicer responded to the report Thursday, saying the term "associates" was a "catch-all" and overly vague.

    "I have a problem with specifically -- with what your network did yesterday," Spicer told CNN's Sara Murray in a lengthy exchange at the White House press briefing. "It was associates that may or may not be there -- all one subjective term after another with no concrete proof that anything happened. When you use a term like 'associates,' you don't even put a timeframe around. It's a little bit nebulous, at best, to suggest that somebody over and over again, making the claim that you do, and the narrative continues without any substantiation."

    Schiff: New evidence shows possible Trump-Russia collusion - CNNPolitics.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    Rep. Adam Schiff told CNN Thursday that he had seen additional evidence, but would not specify what it was.
    Cast iron eveidence the sheeple will beleive without any testing of it. Sure more shite but is it sticking?

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    ^^ New evidence shows that libtards are gullible idiots being led around by their noses.

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    ^ ^^ Yeah.


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    An allegation that CISCO "switches" are compromised and allow access to anybody. The switches problem announced 2 weeks ago seem to be internal network switches. No news on the vulnerability of their external internet backbone devices.

    "Cisco Systems said that more than 300 models of switches it sells contain a critical vulnerability that allows the CIA to use a simple command to remotely execute malicious code that takes full control of the devices. There currently is no fix. Further Reading

    WikiLeaks publishes docs from what it says is trove of CIA hacking tools

    Cisco researchers said they discovered the vulnerability as they analyzed a cache of documents that are believed to have been stolen from the CIA and published by WikiLeaks two weeks ago. The flaw, found in at least 318 switches, allows remote attackers to execute code that runs with elevated privileges, Cisco warned in an advisory published Friday. The bug resides in the Cisco Cluster Management Protocol (CMP), which uses the telnet protocol to deliver signals and commands on internal networks. It stems from a failure to restrict telnet options to local communications and the incorrect processing of malformed CMP-only telnet options. "An attacker could exploit this vulnerability by sending malformed CMP-specific telnet options while establishing a telnet session with an affected Cisco device configured to accept telnet connections," the advisory stated. "An exploit could allow an attacker to execute arbitrary code and obtain full control of the device or cause a reload of the affected device."

    https://arstechnica.com/security/201...isco-switches/



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    ^ Please explain in what way the above post relates to the Trump-Russian ties investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    Please explain
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    The FBI’s Pittsburgh office, which often handles cybersecurity investigations, is working to identify who was behind the hacking of the Democratic National Committee’s computer systems. The San Francisco office is trying to identify “Guccifer 2,” the person or group who hacked Clinton campaign manager John Podesta’s emails. FBI counterintelligence agents in D.C. are looking into leads from informants and foreign communication intercepts, including financial transactions by Russians believed to have links to Trump associates.
    The accusation revolves around hacking, the method of stealing/breaking into or capturing electronic voice records from internet connected devices. The announcement from the ameristani manufactures state "some" of its internal network devices are not protected.

    I highlighted yet another factually admitted and documented method a non Russian could hack and leave a false trail internally and possibly externally.

    As opposed to undocumented allegations on the POTUSEs reputation.

    Or is comment only permitted if one follows printed material from non fake sources?
    Last edited by OhOh; 24-03-2017 at 10:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    Or is comment only permitted if one follows printed material from non fake sources?
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    No but you should at least understand the material you quote

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    The point of the article is anybody can access CISCO internet products, they have admitted it. Therefore "anybody", as well as Russian agents, are be able to hack them.

    One doesn't need to know anymore, it would be superfluous to enable one to make a decision on the evidence, made by the public announcement by CISCO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    One doesn't need to know anymore, it would be superfluous to enable one to make a decision on the evidence, made by the public announcement by CISCO.
    No, you have to understand more, the difference between internal and external is good to know.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    The switches problem announced 2 weeks ago seem to be internal network switches.
    No news on the vulnerability of their external internet backbone devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    the difference between internal and external is good to know.


    Nice try OhDOh!!


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