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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    ^not complicated...GOP donors funded research digging up dirt on trump
    ok regarding a potential hillary/russian conspiracy theory: i hear no evil, see no evil, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    let me type that again for you....

    the man who ran trump's campaign was brought to FBI headquarters and indicted for conspiracy against the US.
    and what does this have to do with the trump/russian conspiracy theory that you, ant and boyz have been going about all year and what THIS thread is about?

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    nothing, right?

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    ^
    yeah, good luck with that.


    anyway....

    fun fact from the indictment:

    manafort was an airbnb host.


    https://www.axios.com/paul-manafort-...503844083.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    yeah, good luck with that
    manafort was under investigation by the justice department before he worked for trump.

    recall reading that that investigation was taken over by mueller.

    go ahead and hang your hat on that, ray.


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    and btw, a member of the trump campaign has already flipped and is providing information to mueller about his connections to the kremlin.


    earlier this month he pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the feds....now he's telling them everything he knows for a reduced sentence.


    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-lying-n815596



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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    manafort was under investigation by the justice department before he worked for trump.
    the indictment clearly mentions activities by manafort in 2016.



    but hey....like i mentioned earlier...good luck.

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    thanks for the scoop!


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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    the indictment clearly mentions activities by manafort in 2016.
    related to the conspiracy theory of trump colluding with the russians?

    i know the indictment's been released, ray.

    don't post a wall of words, but please post the specific part that

    [QUOTE=raycarey;3654559]the indictment clearly mentions activities by manafort in 2016.

    relates to trump/trump campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    related to the conspiracy theory of trump colluding with the russians?

    i know the indictment's been released, ray.

    don't post a wall of words, but please post the specific part that the indictment clearly mentions activities by manafort in 2016.

    relates to trump/trump campaign.
    Manafort was Trump's campaign manager up until August of 2016 and is now charged with engaging in a conspiracy against the USA. What part of that don't you understand?

    https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

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    jd, please don't get into a debate with me: it won't end well.

    ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    related to the conspiracy theory of trump colluding with the russians?
    what difference does it make....he did it now he's indicted.

    The investigation started because Trump fired Comey it's gone way beyond that and possible Russian meddling.Whether any forth coming charges are connected to a Russian conspiracy or not is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    what difference does it make
    go on then, fred: think that what hillary/dnc did isn't worse than what the gop/trump campaign did.

    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    ^not complicated...GOP donors funded research digging up dirt on trump

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    Court documents on Monday detailed connections between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Those documents show that George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy adviser to Trump's campaign, pleaded guilty to making a false statement to the FBI about his contacts with a foreign professor connected to Russian officials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    what difference does it make....he did it now he's indicted.

    The investigation started because Trump fired Comey it's gone way beyond that and possible Russian meddling.Whether any forth coming charges are connected to a Russian conspiracy or not is irrelevant.
    The investigation started long before then.

    A summary:


    Here are some of the charges brought by the Department of Justice.
    1. Defendants Paul J. Manafort, Jr. (MANAFORT) and Richard W. Gates III (GATES) served for years as political consultants and lobbyists. Between at least 2006 and 2015, MANAFORT and GATES acted as unregistered agents of the Government of Ukraine, the Party of Regions (a Ukrainian political party whose leader Victor Yanukovych was President from 2010 to 2014), Yanukovych, and the Opposition Bloc (a successor to the Party of Regions that formed in 2014 when Yanukovych fled to Russia). MANAFORT and GATES generated tens of millions of dollars in income as a result of their Ukraine work. In order to hide Ukraine payments from United States authorities, from approximately 2006 through at least 2016, MANAFORT and GATES laundered the money through scores of United States and foreign corporations, partnerships and bank accounts.
    2. In furtherance of the scheme, MANAFORT and GATES funneled millions of dollars in payments into foreign nominee companies and bank accounts, opened by them and their accomplices in nominee names and in various foreign countries, including Cyprus, Saint Vincent & the Grenadines (Grenadines), and the Seychelles. MANAFORT and GATES hid the existence of the foreign companies and bank accounts, falsely and repeatedly reporting to their tax preparers and to the United States that they had no foreign bank accounts.
    3. In furtherance of the scheme, MANAFORT and GATES concealed from the United States their work as agents of, and millions of dollars in payments from, Ukraine and its political parties and leaders. Because MANAFORT and GATES, among other things, directed a campaign to lobby United States officials on behalf of the government of Ukraine, the President of Ukraine, and Ukrainian political parties, they were required by law to report to the United States their work and fees. MANAFORT and GATES did not do so. Instead when the Department of Justice sent inquiries to MANAFORT and GATES in 2016 about their activities, MANAFORT and GATES responded with a series of false and misleading statements.
    4. In furtherance of the scheme, MANAFORT uses his hidden overseas wealth to enjoy a lavish lifestyle in the United States, without paying taxes on that income. MANAFORT, without reporting the income to his tax preparer or the United States, spent millions of dollars on luxury goods and services for himself and his extended family through payments wired from offshore nominee accounts to United States vendors. MANAFORT also used these offshore accounts purchase multi-million dollar properties in the United States. MANAFORT then borrowed millions of dollars in loans ising these properties as collateral, thereby obtaining cash in the United States without reporting and paying taxes on the income. In order to increase the amount of money he could access in the United States, MANAFORT defrauded the institutions that loaned money...
    Full indictment here: (PDF)

    https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

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    Just saying.....

    In furtherance of the scheme, MANAFORT and GATES funneled millions of dollars in payments into foreign nominee companies and bank accounts, opened by them and their accomplices in nominee names and in various foreign countries, including Cyprus
    ....


    Wilbur Ross, the Trump administration’s new commerce secretary, presided over a deal with a Russian businessman with ties to Vladimir Putin while serving in his previous role as vice-chairman of the Bank of Cyprus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    Court documents on Monday detailed connections between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.
    jonny danger shows himself to be full of lying/ bs as usual.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    what THIS thread is about
    oh, ok......THIS thread is only about what THIS thread is about.


    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    hillary/dnc



    btw, no comment on this?



    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    a member of the trump campaign has already flipped and is providing information to mueller about his connections to the kremlin.


    earlier this month he pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the feds....now he's telling them everything he knows for a reduced sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    jonny danger shows himself to be full of lying/ bs as usual.

    Not sure quite why you picked a Muttley smiley.


    George Papadopoulos, the former campaign aide to Donald Trump, pleaded guilty to lying to federal agents working for special counsel Robert Mueller as part of his investigation into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia.
    Here are the key takeaways from the “statement of offense”:

    • Papadopoulos initially told investigators that he befriended an unnamed London-based “professor” with “substantial connections” to Russian government officials before he became an adviser to the campaign. Papadopoulos later corrected his story and told investigators that the professor only became interested in him after learning that he worked for the Trump campaign.
    • Papadopoulos joined the campaign as a foreign policy advisor around March 21, 2016. He first met the “professor” on or about March 24, 2016 in London.
    • In late April – more than a month after Papadopoulos joined the Trump campaign – the “professor” told him that the Russians had “dirt” on then candidate Clinton in the form of “thousands of emails” . He had initially told investigators that those communications occurred prior to joining the campaign.
    • The professor also introduced the Trump adviser to an unnamed female Russian national who Papadopoulos believed was Putin’s niece.
    • Following the meeting with the professor and female Russian national, Papadopoulos emailed members of the campaign to tell them that he had just met with a “good friend” the professor and they discussed arranging a “meeting between us and the Russian leadership to discuss US-Russia ties under President Trump”. A campaign supervisor replied: “Great work.
    • On or about March 31, 2016, Papadopoulos attended a national security meeting with Trump and other advisers, at which Papadopoulos stated that he “could help arrange a meeting between then-candidate Trump and President Putin”.
    • He then worked with the professor and female Russian national to arrange a meeting between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.



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    (of course) trump is lying (again)


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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    earlier this month he pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the feds....now he's telling them everything he knows for a reduced sentence.
    yep, i posted about this here: post 131:

    https://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...ml#post3652880 (Post-Election '16 DNC and the Democratic Party)

    the only meeting (with don jr , etc) was about adoption and the magnisky act (promising info about a hillary/russian conspiracy).

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    Out of respect to a slain whistleblower it's Magnitsky murdered in one of Putin's jails

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...act-explained/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    the only meeting (with don jr , etc)
    the only meeting you know about.

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