Thread: Mueller's Russian Interference investigation

Originally Posted by Cujo

It turns out if Trump did draft a knowingly false statement for his son it could be considered obstruction of justice.

not sure about that...people lie to the media all the time with no legal consequence. but if trump jr or jared lied to congress or mueller about it, then that's another matter altogether.

Originally Posted by raycarey

did jr. testify under oath?

WTF with "under oath"? Is it normal in the US to speak truth only "under oath"?

Is it why so many lies?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Is it why so many lies?

i don't know. maybe. ask a psychologist or an ethicist.

anyway...

ICYMI...former FBI director mueller added a 16th lawyer to his team yesterday....this guy's area of expertise is prosecuting foreign bribery cases.






https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1AH5F9

Originally Posted by Cujo

It turns out if Trump did draft a knowingly false statement for his son it could be considered obstruction of justice.

ok, i think i get your point now....if everyone on that plane was engaged in the process of 'getting their story straight'...then yeah, i guess that would be obstruction of justice.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Grand jury subpoenas have been issued in connection with a June 2016 meeting that included President Donald Trump's son, his son-in-law and a Russian lawyer, two sources familiar with the matter told Reuters on Thursday.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller Impanels Washington Grand Jury in Russia Probe

Expansion beyond Flynn grand jury is a sign the investigation in election meddling is ramping up

Special Counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington to investigate Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections, a sign that his inquiry is growing in intensity and entering a new phase, according to people familiar with the matter.

The grand jury, which began its work in recent weeks, signals that Mr. Mueller’s inquiry will likely continue for months. Mr. Mueller is investigating Russia’s efforts to influence the 2016 election and whether President Donald Trump’s campaign or associates colluded with the Kremlin as part of that effort.

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“This doesn’t mean he is going to bring charges,” Mr. Zeno cautioned. “But it shows he is very serious. He wouldn’t do this if it were winding down.”

Weren't you the guy who kept posting daily polls about Clinton's 99% chance of winning the election every day for about a year?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Weren't you the guy who kept posting daily polls about Clinton's 99% chance of winning the election every day for about a year?

What does that have to do with the news item he posted?

Sky put it this way:

Grand jury subpoenas have been issued in connection with a June 2016 meeting involving Donald Trump Jr, Jared Kushner and a Russian lawyer, according to Reuters.

Sources told the news agency that special counsel Robert Mueller had convened a grand jury in Washington to investigate allegations of Russian meddling in the US election last year.

That move could allow Mr Mueller more expansive powers to pursue evidence, including issuing subpoenas and compelling witnesses to testify.

I think Manafort and Flynn must be considering their options right now...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I think Manafort and Flynn must be considering their options right now...

don't forget carter page...it was revealed yesterday that he has been under a FISA warrant since 2014....they've probably reams of information about him and his sketchy russian dealings.

if i was going to bet, i'd put money page or manafort as the one who flips....with a slight edge to page.


btw, it think this news increases the chances of trump's taxes coming out.

Mueller issues grand jury subpoenas related to Donald Trump Jr.'s 2016 meeting



Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller has issued grand jury subpoenas related to Donald Trump Jr.'s 2016 meeting with a Russian lawyer at Trump Tower, according to a person familiar with the matter. The subpoena seeks both documents and testimony from people involved in the meeting, CNN has learned. That meeting has drawn scrutiny since an email exchange beforehand indicated the Russians offered damaging information on Hillary Clinton.

Mueller's team of investigators continue to look into whether President Donald Trump or any of his campaign associates colluded with Russia during the presidential contest.

The moves signal a new step in the investigation, which Trump has lambasted as a "witch hunt." Trump has denied any collusion between his team and the Russians. US intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia attempted to sway the presidential contest in Trump's favor. Ty Cobb, special counsel to the President, said he wasn't aware that Mueller had started using a new grand jury. "Grand jury matters are typically secret," Mr. Cobb said. "The White House favors anything that accelerates the conclusion of his work fairly... The White House is committed to fully cooperating with Mr. Mueller."

Trump ignored shouted questions about Mueller as he departed the White House on Thursday afternoon.

Smiling and waving, Trump walked from the Oval Office to his Marine One helicopter on a sunny August afternoon. He was joined by son Eric Trump and daughter in law Lara Trump, as well as Jared Kushner and new chief of staff John Kelly. A spokesman for Mueller's office declined to comment on the reports.

Federal investigators have seized on Trump and his associates' financial ties to Russia as among the most fertile avenues for moving their probe forward, people familiar with the investigation tell CNN. The web of financial ties could offer a more concrete path toward potential prosecution than the broader and murkier questions of collusion in the 2016 campaign, these sources said. In May, CNN reported that federal prosecutors had issued grand jury subpoenas to some associates of former national security adviser Michael Flynn as part of the ongoing probe into the Russian meddling. Mueller took over that investigation in mid-May.

Those subpoenas were issued by the US Attorney's office in Alexandria, Virginia, but the Wall Street Journal report indicated that Mueller would utilize a grand jury based in downtown Washington, near the offices where Mueller and his team work. The question of Russian interference has hung over Trump's presidency for months, even as the White House has sought to wall itself off from the matter. Trump has retained a team of lawyers to handle the growing legal swirl.

Mueller issues grand jury subpoenas - CNNPolitics.com

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—The special counsel, Robert Mueller, just called Donald Trump to tell the President that he was “the most innocent person ever,” Trump told reporters on Thursday.

“It was the middle of the afternoon, and he just picked up the phone to say how innocent I was,” Trump said. “He said I was the most innocent person he’d ever come across, and maybe in history.”

“He said he had been over all of the evidence and that he and his staff would spend hours just looking at each other in amazement at about how unbelievably innocent I was,” he said.

Trump said that he asked Mueller why, in his opinion, the media had reported so many stories about his campaign colluding with Russians. “Bob said to me, ‘Are you talking about the failing New York Times and CNN?’ ” Trump reported. “ ‘They have been very unfair to you. They are bad (or sick) people. Sad!’ That’s what Bob said to me.”

The conversation wound down with a series of “pleasantries,” Trump said, with Mueller complimenting him on the size of his 2016 victory, including his enormous win in New Hampshire.

Trump Says Mueller Just Called Him and Said He?s the Most Innocent Person Ever | The New Yorker





** Note to Slick: The above is satire.

we all know deep down that Trump is innocent, he is running a fucking TV reality show FFS, not an international crime organization

some people have some imagination, seeing dead people, aliens, and Russians everywhere

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

** Note to Slick: The above is satire.

that sound you just heard was him accidentally knocking over his playstation while looking for a dictionary.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

we all know deep down that Trump is innocent, he is running a fucking TV reality show FFS, not an international crime organization

some people have some imagination, seeing dead people, aliens, and Russians everywhere

I agree that he's too stupid to engineer this himself, but knowing about it and saying nothing is enough.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

we all know deep down that Trump is innocent, he is running a fucking TV reality show FFS, not an international crime organization

We all understand this you Belgian rifle dropper. Drumpf is a useful idiot and a target for diabolical oligarchs and foreign nation states as are his sons and the rest of the circle that he surrounds himself.

Sadly there are people on this forum that are more obsessed with meme's and posting shit like TLDR. The dimwitted trumpanzee lives on reddit and 4chan.

Originally Posted by bsnub

TLDR

Who???

Originally Posted by bsnub

this forum

Has like a whopping 12 active members at any given time comprised of a demographic thats about as detached from reality as it gets, and moderation that doesn't exist.

Of those that actively post, there are barely any that are actually American, and the ones that are, have either left the US because Muh Hurt Feelz or wish they could and pretend to be British (Looking at you, dingus) while on here and drinking "piss" alone, at home, in the middle of the night, talking about "me lads" & shit.

Soooooo, yeah, don't get too fussy. You'd be banned in a NY minute on any other forum.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by bsnub

TLDR

Who???

Slickshit.

If I could, all things considered, pay my way back to the US to sit on the grand jury. It will be the first time in history people will hope they're called for jury duty.

Originally Posted by Slick

Soooooo, yeah, don't get too fussy. You'd be banned in a NY minute on any other forum.

Where? The fora that you hang on?

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=174400661

https://www.lpsg.com/threads/why-is-...erable.140324/

this is the shit that you post in you fucking douchebag.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Mueller has convened a grand jury

now he's no longer limited to asking for testimony and documents....he can now demand testimony and documents.

Why does he need to demand anything? Why are they not willingly handing over whatever is asked for?
What are they hiding?