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    U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions

    "i did not have communication with the russians".


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    ^

    I was in a hotel and I clicked on cnn this morning as they didn't have any real news channels, and true to form, there was cnn banging on about the Russians, they didn't stop for about 30 minutes. They have gone insane in their effort to try and make anyone besides libtards give a shit about their idiotic waffle.

    Sessions talked to the Russian ambassador shriek shriek shriek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    Sessions talked to the Russian ambassador shriek shriek shriek.
    And lied about it under oath. No problemo in Trumpistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    Sessions talked to the Russian ambassador shriek shriek shriek.
    And lied about it under oath. No problemo in Trumpistan.
    He didn't try and hide it, it's a matter of public record, maybe he forgot, this was way back in September when no one knew any of this would be made out to be a big deal.

    It's just politics, don't stress about it. Why you are so desperate to believe you are Putin's little bitches, I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    maybe he forgot
    He forgot he met with the Russian Ambassador? Maybe he's too senile to hold office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    maybe he forgot
    He forgot he met with the Russian Ambassador? Maybe he's too senile to hold office.
    He meets ambassadors from many countries, not just Russia, he is just one of many.. This Russian thing is just political theater.

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    Was obviously a top secret clandestine meeting having it in his Senate office. Are we supposed to be getting upset about this too?

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    after sessions was grilled in congress, leahy asked him for further clarification:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...09f_story.html

    In January, Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) asked Sessions for answers to written questions. “Several of the President-elect’s nominees or senior advisers have Russian ties. Have you been in contact with anyone connected to any part of the Russian government about the 2016 election, either before or after election day?”

    Leahy wrote.
Sessions responded with one word: “No.”
    
In a statement issued Wednesday night, Session said he “never met with any Russian officials to discuss issues of the campaign. I have no idea what this allegation is about. It is false.”
    i believe his answer "no" is true and if you're honest with yourself, humbert,

    so do you.

    as, even though you read left wing rags that vow to "resist" trump, i'm sure you don't think that sessions met with the russian ambassador to plot how to take down hillary. right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    So, after positive responses to trump's speech, the wa post plays up this story? What is the implication? That sessions was conspiring with the Russians to defeat hillary?

    Ridiculous and just a game of gotcha regarding sessions answer to congress.

    From the same wa post article:
    It's clear that you have little understanding of what the Watergate investigations ultimately discovered and what eventually proved to be Nixon and his inner circle's undoing. It was not the break in but the cover-up that brought them all down.
    you really think that sessions is trying to cover-up an innocent meeting with the russian ambassador? seriously?

    IMO, it's left wing rags and the mainstream media making a mountain out of a mole hill because they have an agenda to delegitimize trump with the assistance of some obama/hillary supporters inside the intelligence community.

    think it's quite obvious to all except those screeching left wingers who still haven't successfully gone through the stages of grief (denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance)

    and are stuck in denial and anger.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/u...n-hacking.html

    In the Obama administration’s last days, some White House officials scrambled to spread information about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election — and about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump and Russians — across the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    as, even though you read left wing rags that vow to "resist" trump, i'm sure you don't think that sessions met with the russian ambassador to plot how to take down hillary. right? Quote:
    Originally Posted by Humbert Quote:
    Originally Posted by Farangrakthai So, after positive responses to trump's speech, the wa post plays up this story? What is the implication? That sessions was conspiring with the Russians to defeat hillary?
    Ridiculous and just a game of gotcha regarding sessions answer to congress.
    From the same wa post article: It's clear that you have little understanding of what the Watergate investigations ultimately discovered and what eventually proved to be Nixon and his inner circle's undoing. It was not the break in but the cover-up that brought them all down. you really think that sessions is trying to cover-up an innocent meeting with the russian ambassador? seriously?
    Matters not at all. What matters is that he either lied, forgot or was misleading in his answer under oath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Matters not at all. What matters is that he either lied, forgot or was misleading in his answer under oath.
    so, what is this "cover up" you're referring to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    So, after positive responses to trump's speech, the wa post plays up this story? What is the implication? That sessions was conspiring with the Russians to defeat hillary?

    Ridiculous and just a game of gotcha regarding sessions answer to congress.

    From the same wa post article:
    It's clear that you have little understanding of what the Watergate investigations ultimately discovered and what eventually proved to be Nixon and his inner circle's undoing. It was not the break in but the cover-up that brought them all down.

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    After listening, I don't think Sessions understood the question that Franken asked.

    He should have answered, "As a leading member of a Senate committee, I had regular contact with not only the Russian ambassador, but ambassadors with many other countries as well."

    Instead, he said he didn't have any contact with the Russians....simply stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer
    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    are you of the opinion that sessions was plotting with the russians to take down hillary?
    you can put your head in the sand and believe what you want
    takes a pretty big imagination to think that sesssions was plotting with the russians to take down hillary, if that's what you think.

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    OK, back to trump/sessions/russia

    The stories about Sessions have led Democratic lawmakers either to call for Sessions to recuse himself from any investigation looking into Russia, or to resign because he misled Congress about his contacts with the Russian government. And now Sessions has three options — and all of them are bad.

    One, he agrees to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee to clean up what he said during his confirmation hearing, and to answer any and all questions about Russia.

    Two, Sessions bites the bullet and appoints a special prosecutor — to save himself from a committee grilling and delay the resignation calls.

    Or three, he digs in.

    But if Team Trump choose Door No. 2 and the special prosecutor, it needs to do so ASAP. Why? Because if the administration is truly clean here, it gives them time and space to be vindicated.
    The White House Now Has Three Options on Russia - NBC News



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    after lying to congress, sessions now claims that he didn't meet with the russian ambassador as surrogate of the trump campaign, but as member of the armed services committee.

    ummmm.....OK.....sure......if you say so.

    but....


    "The Washington Post contacted all 26 members of the 2016 Senate Armed Services Committee to see whether any lawmakers besides Sessions met with [Russian ambassador] Kislyak in 2016. Of the 20 lawmakers who responded, every senator, including Chairman John McCain (R-Ariz.), said they did not meet with the Russian ambassador last year. The other lawmakers on the panel did not respond as of Wednesday evening."
    The White House Now Has Three Options on Russia - NBC News

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    ok, that's it...sessions has no choice now....

    House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz on Thursday morning said Attorney General Jeff Sessions should recuse himself from the investigation into ties between President Donald Trump’s campaign and Russian officials, joining a growing number of Republicans calling for such a move.
    Earlier on Thursday, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said “it would be easier” for the investigation into ties between Trump’s associates and Russian officials if Sessions recused himself from it.
    Chaffetz calls on Sessions to recuse himself from Russia probe - POLITICO



    now the only question is whether a special prosecutor will be appointed or if they'll try and sneak in a lackey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    let's wait and see where mccain, graham, rubio and collins come down on this.
    If all 4 and all dems vote to bring the issue to the floor for a vote it will make things very tough on the Republicans and Trump. If as Trump and Sessions claim they have nothing to hide and have done nothing wrong it would be in their best interest to have tax returns and independent investigation. Put the whole matter to bed once and for all.

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    U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions

    Sessions has officially recused himself.

    Many calls for his resignation this morning.

    Dan Rather, former CBS anchor, says 'the fuse is lit'.

    Interesting times.

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    U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions has recused himself from any federal investigation of alleged Russian meddling into the 2016 presidential election.

    Sessions met with reporters Thursday after The Washington Post reported that as a U.S. senator and member of the Trump campaign, Sessions held two pre-election meetings with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, but withheld that information during his confirmation hearing.

    Questions have hovered whether Sessions talked about the campaign with the ambassador. Some lawmakers from both parties have demanded Sessions recuse himself, while some Democrats say he should resign, accusing him of lying under oath.

    Sessions testified at his confirmation hearing, "I have been called a surrogate a time or two in that [Trump] campaign and I didn't have, did not have communications with the Russians, and I'm unable to comment on it."

    Sessions told the reporters Thursday he never had any intention to mislead anyone and that his answers were "honest and correct" as he understood the question at that time.

    Sessions said his meetings with Kislyak — first at the Republican National Convention in July, then in his Capitol Hill office in September — had nothing to do with Trump run for the White House. He said the talks were part of his job as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

    He said he and the ambassador talked about terrorism and Ukraine, describing the meeting as "testy" at one point when the matter of Russian involvement in Ukraine came up.

    Sessions said Thursday that he decided to recuse himself in any investigation into alleged Russian interference upon the recommendation of his staff at the Justice Department. He said no one should see his decision as confirmation that any probe is currently under way.

    Earlier Thursday, President Donald Trump said he has "total" confidence and that Sessions should not recuse himself. He also said he was unaware of Sessions' meetings with the Russian ambassador until the media reported it.

    The attorney general is the top law enforcement officer in the United States.

    The White House and Republicans accused Democrats of playing politics with the issue.

    House Speaker Paul Ryan told reporters that "Democrats are setting their hair on fire" in trying to get news media to focus on the Russia links story. He said there is "no evidence" of any Americans colluding with Russians to meddle in the election, in which Trump upset Democratic Party nominee Hillary Clinton.

    Trump's new administration has already seen the resignation of his first national security adviser over alleged links to Russia. Trump ousted Michael Flynn after just 24 days on the job after information emerged that he had lied to top officials about the nature of his own conversations with the Russian ambassador.

    Trump has denied multiple reports that people connected to his campaign had connections with members of the Russian government during the election season.

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation, which is part of the Justice Department that Sessions heads, is probing alleged Russian activities aimed at disrupting the U.S. election to help Trump win, and any possible links between the Trump campaign and the government of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    The Senate Intelligence Committee is carrying out its own probe, and the House Intelligence Committee announced parameters for its investigation Wednesday.

    The U.S. intelligence community concluded last year that Russia interfered in the election to help Trump defeat Clinton by hacking into Clinton campaign computers.

    Attorney General Sessions Recuses Himself in Russian Election Meddling Probe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Sessions has officially recused himself.

    Many calls for his resignation this morning.

    Dan Rather, former CBS anchor, says 'the fuse is lit'.

    Interesting times.
    Doesn't this and any related posts discussion belong in a seperate thread?
    I mean this is about Jeff Sessions. Why put it in the Trump thread?
    Could we please start doing that, it's hard to keep track of the discussions when they're all lumped under one thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    Doesn't this and any related posts discussion belong in a seperate thread?
    No, it's about the Trump presidency. I'll keep posting my comments related to Sessions and the subsequent investigations there. If some overzealous mod wants to move them he can knock himself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    as you know, sessions didn't lie, he was talking about contacts between the trump campaign and russia.
    Of course he lied. It's perjury. Look at the vid of his testimony instead of your interpretations that gloss over and twist his words.

    The rest of your dumb post has nothing to do with the matter being discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Of course he lied
    well, that's your opinion.

    anyways, the bigger picture is what do you think the trump campaign is covering up, humbert?

    a plot between the trump campaign and russia to take down hillary?


    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    It's clear that you have little understanding of what the Watergate investigations ultimately discovered and what eventually proved to be Nixon and his inner circle's undoing. It was not the break in but the cover-up that brought them all down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    the bigger picture is what do you think the trump campaign is covering up, humbert?
    I have told you before, it does not matter. Let the investigations determine this. At the minimum both Flynn and Sessions were trying to cover up their activities related to contact with the Russians. The issue is the lying that Trump and members of his administration are up to their necks in and the fact that their stories are changing daily. This is not going away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Of course he lied. It's perjury.
    well, yesterday you said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Matters not at all. What matters is that he either lied, forgot or was misleading in his answer under oath.
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
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    the bigger picture is what do you think the trump campaign is covering up, humbert?
    Let the investigations determine this.
    agree that the republicans should allow free, fair and open (to the public) hearings and bring in the spooks (who've been whispering to the wa post and ny times) and show their evidence of the trump campaign and russia conspiring to take down hillary (which is what they are implying with all their leaks).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Humbert Of course he lied. It's perjury. well, yesterday you said this: Quote:
    Originally Posted by Humbert Matters not at all. What matters is that he either lied, forgot or was misleading in his answer under oath.
    If you read that then why do you keep asking the same question repeatedly? Clearly I was outlining the possiblilites for you. My opinion is that he lied. Do you think he forgot?
    Even Trump said today that he didn't answer the question properly. His supporters, like you, are trying to make the argument that he was not part of the campaign. He was the senior member Trump's foreign policy advisory team for chrissake. Why do you insist that he was not part of the campaign? You think it was proper for him to not disclose these meeting during his confirmation hearings?

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